Townsend or no Townsend?

[ajspurs]

You have your opinion and i respect that.
AVB is not going to change his formation for Townsend.
So its either he plays or he dosent.
For me personally Lamela has it, i saw it at roma and he still has it.
For the record i dont think Lamela will play in our next PL game, townsend will and thats a mistake, but thats just my opinion.

Of course Lamela has it, he always has done but there are other variables that had to be considered in the case such as no words of English, new league, new team etc. that have quite simply at least in the short term prevented him from showing his true ability. I agree and I am also in the opinion that Lamela should play in the next league game although if I had my way I would play the both of them. The only thing that's baffled me mate has more so been the timing of the calling for Lamela to take Townsend's place. Based on the way games have gone recently I'd at this current time have no complaints if Lamela was picked over Townsend. But I think Townsend even on the left would do more any of our current options on there (Sig/Chadli/Lennon).

 

[chinaman]

He has in fact created scoring chances. The reason he has no assist is because of the wastefulness of those for whom he created the chances.

 

[ajspurs]

How can he show if he is any good in the premiership if he never plays in it? Townsend has had 11 starts and has no assists and one fluke goal. Lamela has had about 4 sub apps and has one assist against Cardiff. So already achieved more than Townsend from a creative point of view.

I've always said that Lamela just playing the Europa League games may not even help him and that he needs more league games, but when Townsend's playing well and Lamela's struggling to make a pass against low opposition he's just simply not going to get picked over him, and rightly so. I'd rather see him picked over Lennon or Sig (despite his goals) on the left with him and Townsend switching if need be. You can talk about stats all day long but if you're gonna completely disregard the fact that Townsend has put in good performances for us despite barely scoring or assisting then I just simply give up.

 

[ajspurs]

He has in fact created scoring chances. The reason he has no assist is because of the wastefulness of those for whom he created the chances.

Yep, off the top off my head should have had one for Eriksen on Sunday (I think) and one for Paulinho against Villa.

 

[ILS]

I've always said that Lamela just playing the Europa League games may not even help him and that he needs more league games, but when Townsend's playing well and Lamela's struggling to make a pass against low opposition he's just simply not going to get picked over him, and rightly so. I'd rather see him picked over Lennon or Sig (despite his goals) on the left with him and Townsend switching if need be. You can talk about stats all day long but if you're gonna completely disregard the fact that Townsend has put in good performances for us despite barely scoring or assisting then I just simply give up.

He has put in some good performances but wingers get judged on assists and goals and the lad has been very greedy all season. I cannot think how many of his forty shots has produced a keeper making a worldie or striking the woodwork... Not many. I would like to see him on the left to see what he can produced.

 

[eddiebailey]

He has put in some good performances but wingers get judged on assists and goals and the lad has been very greedy all season. I cannot think how many of his forty shots has produced a keeper making a worldie or striking the woodwork... Not many. I would like to see him on the left to see what he can produced.

Problem is that we do not know what instructions he is getting from AVB; presumably if AVB wanted him to shoot less often he would tell him so. The fact that he plays 90 minutes of every game would suggest he is doing exactly what AVB wants of him.

Shooting loses possession, but the chance are the ball goes out of play and we can get back and set up to defend; misplace a pass when we have committed bodies forward and we risk a counter-attack. So we keep possession and try our luck with a few potshots, and so long as it stays nil-nil we save the creative stuff for the last quarter when the opposition are shagged out from chasing the ball.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnatio...astle-united-man-of-the-match-andros-townsend
Tottenham Hotspur vs. Newcastle United, Man of the match: Andros Townsend

 

[ajspurs]

He has put in some good performances but wingers get judged on assists and goals and the lad has been very greedy all season. I cannot think how many of his forty shots has produced a keeper making a worldie or striking the woodwork... Not many. I would like to see him on the left to see what he can produced.

It's a bit of both mate to be honest. Well, in an ideal world you wanna see good performances plus goals/assists from the wide positions but Sigurdsson has 2 (or maybe more) goals from the wide left position and I still don't really like seeing him there and would rather push for Townsend to have that wide right position than I would Sigurdsson to have the wide left position that's for sure even if Sig's stats are better for his respective position.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

He needs to improve his game and try and be more like Theo Walcott, people will jump on that because he plays for Arsenal and is Shit apparently but he is not at all and has improved year on year. Townsend should look to make runs from deeper positions, either diagonally to be in on goal or down the line to put crosses in, Walcott did this to great effect last season as scored 16 i think and got into double figures for assists, that is effective.

Townsend wad not bought in to replace bale and someone needs to pull to one side and tell him that but he had 9 games to alter his mindset and to be honest it looks like he is trying harder to be a game changer because Lamela may be settling and Lennon is back so he may feel under threat.

For me if he was more effective i would not really care if he retained his position, but in nine games he has not done the basics right, so he either has to change his approach or have some time out of the starting eleven

Saturday i saw one move from him which set up eriksen and thats what he needs to do but it is few and far between at the moment.

Is he exciting, yes and he can dribble and all that but he has not been effective not at all and after a good run of games aswell so i really dont undersyand why we shouldnt ask to try something different. Doesn't mean he has to lose his starting place bit if its for the progression of the team unit we should at least try it.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Now thinking about it. Sandro and Dembele were a good partnership last season.

Lovely to have Paulinho and Capoue but defensive midfielders wasn't an area I thought we were weak in.

 

[TheSecretNonFootballer]

Now thinking about it. Sandro and Dembele were a good partnership last season.

Lovely to have Paulinho and Capoue but defensive midfielders wasn't an area I thought we were weak in.

It wasn't until Sandro got injured, then it all went to shit. Now we have Capoue as, what appears to be, adequate backup for him. Paulinho isn't really meant to be a defensive mid.

 

[ajspurs]

Now thinking about it. Sandro and Dembele were a good partnership last season.

Lovely to have Paulinho and Capoue but defensive midfielders wasn't an area I thought we were weak in.

They were awesome, even in a 4-4-2.

 

[Spurz]

He needs to dribble into the penalty box to get penalties more often. We cant score in open play

 

[spursandbarca]

on the left and Lamela on the right

 

[luptic]

Townsend needs a rest for a while, and let someone else have a chance. He is far to greedy, he hasnt got the potential of bale, nor will never get anywhere close to lacing his boots, so please forget the glory shots and get back to basics, but only after a period on the bench.

 

[mario antoniou]

How can you bench the only attacker that's shown a semblence of form this season? Pathetic stuff. He's whipped in plenty of good crosses with his weeker foot this season only for our strikers not to be good enough in the air to take advantage.

Who do you lads suggest we play instead? Lamela? He's done absolutely nothing since coming here. Forget the fact that towsends shots aren't ending up in goals, lamela can't even generate the space to take a shot.

Wait & see Townsend one trick pony lamela will prove you to b a gem
Only problem Lemela has is av b clue less if Townsend can make a decision when to shoot when to pass it's all about end product still u have your say

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

OptaJoe ‏@OptaJoe5m
92 - Andros Townsend has attempted more dribbles than any other player in the 2013-14 @premierleague Fed.

Would like to see the stats of how many of those were in to the middle and ended in a shot over the bar

 

[Syn_13]

OptaJoe ‏@OptaJoe5m
92 - Andros Townsend has attempted more dribbles than any other player in the 2013-14 @premierleague Fed.

Would like to see the stats of how many of those were in to the middle and ended in a shot over the bar

He's apparently attempted more dribbles than Christiano Ronaldo, or so I've read somewhere on here recently. Also, the stats say that he's attempted 4.5 shots per game with the lowest shot:goal conversion rate. That's ore than Daniel Sturridge, who is quite the greedy bastard himself. Oh, also Andros and Paulinho have only scored 2 goals in 81 shots in the league, and Townsend's came from a flukey cross. Make of that what you will.

I personally couldn't give a shit for stats, I just go by the way I see them play. Townsend is bloody dangerous no doubt, but is also bloody wasteful. The media attention he's been getting must surely be having an influence on the opposition managers' tactics as he's been labelled as our "danger man" so far this season. This leads me to wonder why we're not taking advantage of this. If he's got 2 or 3 players on him then someone else will be missing a marker. Perhaps it's because he'd rather "do a Bale" and have a pop himself than pass to the free man, or perhaps it's because the free man isn't using his noggin and moving into a good position. Six of one, half a dozen of the other most likely.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

He's apparently attempted more dribbles than Christiano Ronaldo, or so I've read somewhere on here recently. Also, the stats say that he's attempted 4.5 shots per game with the lowest shot:goal conversion rate. That's ore than Daniel Sturridge, who is quite the greedy bastard himself. Oh, also Andros and Paulinho have only scored 2 goals in 81 shots in the league, and Townsend's came from a flukey cross. Make of that what you will.

I personally couldn't give a shit for stats, I just go by the way I see them play. Townsend is bloody dangerous no doubt, but is also bloody wasteful. The media attention he's been getting must surely be having an influence on the opposition managers' tactics as he's been labelled as our "danger man" so far this season. This leads me to wonder why we're not taking advantage of this. If he's got 2 or 3 players on him then someone else will be missing a marker. Perhaps it's because he'd rather "do a Bale" and have a pop himself than pass to the free man, or perhaps it's because the free man isn't using his noggin and moving into a good position. Six of one, half a dozen of the other most likely.

You would think we would use it problem is you either need to make quick pass inside or a quick switch of play, but townsend like to run at them so his descision making needs to improve

 

[Ghost Hardware]

http://i.imgur.com/lj3q1b0.png
This pic for me sums up exactly my thoughts on why Andros should at the very least be moved to the left if not benched for a game or two. His confidence is obviously high, which is a good thing, but it results in this sort of thing being a common occurrence. All he had to do is whip in a low cross for Soldado who is completely free in the middle but instead he tries to shoot from a supper tight angle with his week foot. For me he hasn't shown enough intelegance or maturity to play on the right for us and would be much more effective on the left as a more atypical left winger. I would personally like to see Chadli, Eriksen and Lamela get a run of games but I doubt Townsend will get dropped to the bench, I also doubt he will get moved to the left so I don't know what that means for Lamela or our attack in general.