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- May 7, 2004
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From Harry Hotspur:
He's a man with what can only be described as a formidable reputation. The last fifteen years have seen him stabbed, left with broken bones, bitten by Police dogs, deported, subject to numerous banning orders and jailed.
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]What Trevor Tanner has achieved without dispute is taking his firm to the top. The Yid Army, Tottenham Massive or the Spurs Firm, call them what you will, are [/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]acknowledged as one of the most ruthless, organised and successful football hooligan outfits there are.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]There will be some reading this who will object to what they see as the glamourising of a thug and the encouragement of antisocial behavour. What we're actually doing here is talking about Tottenham with a fan who shares the same occasional highs and current lows as the rest of us.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Let's get this one out of the way. What's your response to those who would want to paint you as some thug who might as well just wander into a Sainsbury's and randomly thump people?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: I'm more of a Waitrose man, Harry. (laughs) Look there's a world of difference between us and the scumbags that you have wandering around in hoodies. Those little rats out there are kicking little old ladies up in the air for small change. You read the likes of Dave Courtney and Freddie Foreman you understand that. People are naughty don't get me wrong - but like you say - you don't want civilians involved. Dave's a personal friend of mine... 'Hello Dave' by the way... and by and large people love reading these sort of books. And if footballers can earn, then why shouldn't we?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: And these books are always about 1000 times more interesting than books by footballers. Speaking of which. Football. You and me are of a similar vintage. What was a memorable early game?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: One that definately got me hooked was that UEFA Cup Final. I remember Roberts scoring. I just remember the atmosphere, looking up at the floodlights. It was something else. [/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: That was some night, alright. An incredible game. So who's your all time fave Spurs player, then?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Paul Gascoigne. I think for a little while there, he was the best player in the world, you know. It's sad what's happened to the fella now. He's lost the plot and it looks like he's just going one way. Amazing player and a sorry stuation now. Terrible the way he's gone.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: What's life like as Spurs fan right now?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: (Sighs) Humiliating. I turned down a ticket for Portsmouth the other week. I couldn't face it and ended watching the game in a pub down there. I saw most of it through my fingers with my hands over my face. I can't believe the the shit we're playing. You know, it's like you can always rely on Tottenham to let you down.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: What's your take on the current mess, then?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: There's something severly wrong at this club from the top down. We sign world class players and when they come here they don't fulfill their potential. It doesn't add up. We need to sort it out.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Who's to blame?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Levy has got Little Man Syndrome. You see that in the way he trades for players. He drags out every deal to the last penny to make it look like he's a top negotiator. What it actually looks like is we're always after something on the cheap. I don't think he does us any favors in that way. He needs to understand something. There are a lot of supporters who follow Tottenham home away and abroad and it costs a fortune. And I'll tell you maybe some of might not be able to really afford it. Maybe they're having to cut corners at home or whatever. What I'm saying is their showing a level of commitment and they deserve more. They're not getting what they deserve as fans.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: We had a such a good preseason...[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Biggest mistake we made mate was beating Roma like that. Everybody took it we were going to finish top four after that. They didn't see that game for what it was and the result didn't stand up. Italian football ain't what it was. That was a shopping trip for the wives. I wouldn't be suprised if most of then were on the wine the night before. The other games didn't mean anything either. [/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: The transfer window then and the departure of Berbatov and Keane...[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That Berbatov's a f***ing dog who shafted us. We took him from nowhere and set him up and he repaid us by being a selfish c***. Keane I'll tell you about. I demand loyalty. From family, from friends. What he did I took personally.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: How did you feel about Jol going and all that business?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Not that upset. Two fifth place finishes fair enough. But I didn't think he was pulling up any great trees there. Look, nobody could have foreseen his success at Hamburg but the German league is totally different game to the Premiership. I think that there was a lot of personal stuff betweeen Jol and Levy, you know? Like it was over a bird or over a motor. There was more too it than just the football. Some people are painting him better than he was because of the state we're in now, you know? But that Ramos has got to turn things round and no excuses. £100,000 a week he's on and he's turning out s***. And people are asking if he speaks English. £100,000 a week he should be out there with the best language people and taking the press conferences and all that.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Couldn't agree more. There's no reason why Gus should be doing the press. What about Hughton?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: He was a good as a player, you know what I mean? But you got to ask questions when he's been alongside all those men who got the tin tack and he kept himself in there all that time. No great shakes just seen as a safe pair of hands. He kept his head down and basically has been very lucky with the ride he's had.[/FONT]
HH: I can't see anybody for 1000 miles to shall we say 'succeed' Ramos. I think there's a good reason why any of these managers that are free at the minute are free. They're on the dole. You know what I mean?
TT: Yeah. Well I'll tell you a name, that Joe Kinnear.
HH: Eh?
TT: He's a Spurs old boy and some people make light of him but they forget the job he did at Wimbledon and the job he did there with the s*** he had. He had his work cut out there. He's a man who can the best out of players.
HH: Like Rednapp in the respect he can 'talk' to footballers?
TT: Yeah, but not a c*** like Rednapp who's just there for the money and himself. I think Kinnear's been overlooked to be honest. Well see, won't we.
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Okay. Best stadium for atmosphere?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That's a tricky one. Depends what the game is. 18,0000 in at Cardiff and it can be rocking on a Tuesday night. Anfield can be special when it gets going. A European game at The Lane when we really need to win is hard to beat. [/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Who get's your goat out of the TV pundits?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That little c*** off Soccer AM. What's his name? That little rag with the highlights?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: I can't remember his name either. Chelsea isn't he. All Prada and a non stop smile.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Ha ha I can't f**ing stand him anyway.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Tim Lovejoy.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That's him he's s***. Got to be others too (laughing) Can't just give it all to him. Andy Townsend. All that ITV lot. Townsend, McCoist and Robbie Savage. Don't rate any of them. Anyone off ITV, then.[/FONT]
He's a man with what can only be described as a formidable reputation. The last fifteen years have seen him stabbed, left with broken bones, bitten by Police dogs, deported, subject to numerous banning orders and jailed.
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]What Trevor Tanner has achieved without dispute is taking his firm to the top. The Yid Army, Tottenham Massive or the Spurs Firm, call them what you will, are [/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]acknowledged as one of the most ruthless, organised and successful football hooligan outfits there are.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]There will be some reading this who will object to what they see as the glamourising of a thug and the encouragement of antisocial behavour. What we're actually doing here is talking about Tottenham with a fan who shares the same occasional highs and current lows as the rest of us.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Let's get this one out of the way. What's your response to those who would want to paint you as some thug who might as well just wander into a Sainsbury's and randomly thump people?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: I'm more of a Waitrose man, Harry. (laughs) Look there's a world of difference between us and the scumbags that you have wandering around in hoodies. Those little rats out there are kicking little old ladies up in the air for small change. You read the likes of Dave Courtney and Freddie Foreman you understand that. People are naughty don't get me wrong - but like you say - you don't want civilians involved. Dave's a personal friend of mine... 'Hello Dave' by the way... and by and large people love reading these sort of books. And if footballers can earn, then why shouldn't we?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: And these books are always about 1000 times more interesting than books by footballers. Speaking of which. Football. You and me are of a similar vintage. What was a memorable early game?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: One that definately got me hooked was that UEFA Cup Final. I remember Roberts scoring. I just remember the atmosphere, looking up at the floodlights. It was something else. [/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: That was some night, alright. An incredible game. So who's your all time fave Spurs player, then?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Paul Gascoigne. I think for a little while there, he was the best player in the world, you know. It's sad what's happened to the fella now. He's lost the plot and it looks like he's just going one way. Amazing player and a sorry stuation now. Terrible the way he's gone.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: What's life like as Spurs fan right now?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: (Sighs) Humiliating. I turned down a ticket for Portsmouth the other week. I couldn't face it and ended watching the game in a pub down there. I saw most of it through my fingers with my hands over my face. I can't believe the the shit we're playing. You know, it's like you can always rely on Tottenham to let you down.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: What's your take on the current mess, then?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: There's something severly wrong at this club from the top down. We sign world class players and when they come here they don't fulfill their potential. It doesn't add up. We need to sort it out.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Who's to blame?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Levy has got Little Man Syndrome. You see that in the way he trades for players. He drags out every deal to the last penny to make it look like he's a top negotiator. What it actually looks like is we're always after something on the cheap. I don't think he does us any favors in that way. He needs to understand something. There are a lot of supporters who follow Tottenham home away and abroad and it costs a fortune. And I'll tell you maybe some of might not be able to really afford it. Maybe they're having to cut corners at home or whatever. What I'm saying is their showing a level of commitment and they deserve more. They're not getting what they deserve as fans.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: We had a such a good preseason...[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Biggest mistake we made mate was beating Roma like that. Everybody took it we were going to finish top four after that. They didn't see that game for what it was and the result didn't stand up. Italian football ain't what it was. That was a shopping trip for the wives. I wouldn't be suprised if most of then were on the wine the night before. The other games didn't mean anything either. [/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: The transfer window then and the departure of Berbatov and Keane...[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That Berbatov's a f***ing dog who shafted us. We took him from nowhere and set him up and he repaid us by being a selfish c***. Keane I'll tell you about. I demand loyalty. From family, from friends. What he did I took personally.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: How did you feel about Jol going and all that business?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Not that upset. Two fifth place finishes fair enough. But I didn't think he was pulling up any great trees there. Look, nobody could have foreseen his success at Hamburg but the German league is totally different game to the Premiership. I think that there was a lot of personal stuff betweeen Jol and Levy, you know? Like it was over a bird or over a motor. There was more too it than just the football. Some people are painting him better than he was because of the state we're in now, you know? But that Ramos has got to turn things round and no excuses. £100,000 a week he's on and he's turning out s***. And people are asking if he speaks English. £100,000 a week he should be out there with the best language people and taking the press conferences and all that.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Couldn't agree more. There's no reason why Gus should be doing the press. What about Hughton?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: He was a good as a player, you know what I mean? But you got to ask questions when he's been alongside all those men who got the tin tack and he kept himself in there all that time. No great shakes just seen as a safe pair of hands. He kept his head down and basically has been very lucky with the ride he's had.[/FONT]
HH: I can't see anybody for 1000 miles to shall we say 'succeed' Ramos. I think there's a good reason why any of these managers that are free at the minute are free. They're on the dole. You know what I mean?
TT: Yeah. Well I'll tell you a name, that Joe Kinnear.
HH: Eh?
TT: He's a Spurs old boy and some people make light of him but they forget the job he did at Wimbledon and the job he did there with the s*** he had. He had his work cut out there. He's a man who can the best out of players.
HH: Like Rednapp in the respect he can 'talk' to footballers?
TT: Yeah, but not a c*** like Rednapp who's just there for the money and himself. I think Kinnear's been overlooked to be honest. Well see, won't we.
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Okay. Best stadium for atmosphere?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That's a tricky one. Depends what the game is. 18,0000 in at Cardiff and it can be rocking on a Tuesday night. Anfield can be special when it gets going. A European game at The Lane when we really need to win is hard to beat. [/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Who get's your goat out of the TV pundits?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That little c*** off Soccer AM. What's his name? That little rag with the highlights?[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: I can't remember his name either. Chelsea isn't he. All Prada and a non stop smile.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: Ha ha I can't f**ing stand him anyway.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]HH: Tim Lovejoy.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,geneva]TT: That's him he's s***. Got to be others too (laughing) Can't just give it all to him. Andy Townsend. All that ITV lot. Townsend, McCoist and Robbie Savage. Don't rate any of them. Anyone off ITV, then.[/FONT]
