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RJ1882

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Honestly what is the point of having this man in the squad? His strongest feature to date has been holdup play yet he wasn't deemed good enough to come on and offer that today. Either sell or loan him out, he's nothing to offer us at this stage in his career. And that's from someone who backed him, but Pooch doesn't so why retain him.for this season?
 

Ben1

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Honestly what is the point of having this man in the squad? His strongest feature to date has been holdup play yet he wasn't deemed good enough to come on and offer that today. Either sell or loan him out, he's nothing to offer us at this stage in his career. And that's from someone who backed him, but Pooch doesn't so why retain him.for this season?
the bloke is pointless, we conceded today and poch chucked sanchez on rather than the extra striker. I'm a big fan but if money is so tight, as always, we cant have 20-25 million pound assets not being trusted by the boss for even the smallest job. We have 2-3 of them.
 

Rout-Ledge

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If we'd spent the combined transfer fees of Janssen, N'Koudou and Sissoko on someone to come into the first team we could've won the league last season.
 

ajspurs

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If we'd spent the combined transfer fees of Janssen, N'Koudou and Sissoko on someone to come into the first team we could've won the league last season.

Unfortunately that is the case. Neither 3 of them made contributions last season that were necessities. Still, the only one that was highly questionable is Sissoko, I think everyone was a little surprised at the time even before seeing him perform for us. Janssen I don't feel so bad with because I can understand the signing and we badly needed another striker, or so we thought anyway.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Unfortunately that is the case. Neither 3 of them made contributions last season that were necessities. Still, the only one that was highly questionable is Sissoko, I think everyone was a little surprised at the time even before seeing him perform for us. Janssen I don't feel so bad with because I can understand the signing and we badly needed another striker, or so we thought anyway.

For sure, but the club does seem to be afraid to make a proper, big money signing. They don't always work out, but is it more of a risk than spread betting on the players we bought last summer? Arsenal did it with Ozil and Sanchez, and it worked well. The psychological boost for the fans and the squad is important too.

Wages may be the insurmountable issue, but Levy will simply have to pay the going rate at some point. Why bother doing the hard work of building the profile of the club, leasing the biggest stadium in the country (which we can't fill) and then saying 'no, we won't pay our best players as much as West Ham do, we can't afford it.' Ok...why are we playing at Wembley then?

Janssen is a decent player, but in my opinion from having watched him a fair bit, his potential is limited purely because of his awkward style of play. Good in the build up, and may poach a few, but that's it.
 

scat1620

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He's the 'substitute goalkeeper' of foward players: literally only on the bench in the worst case scenario that our main man gets injured, but not a cat in hell's chance of being brought onto the pitch because he might bring something useful to the table when we need to change a game.

However much any of us personally do/don't rate Janssen, that's where he is in the pecking order so I think we have to move him on. Forward players (wide or central) are absolutely key to your bench and you need genuine options in that position rather than untrusted understudies, and however difficult that is for us to sign such a player it's clear that Janssen isn't that man.
 

ajspurs

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For sure, but the club does seem to be afraid to make a proper, big money signing. They don't always work out, but is it more of a risk than spread betting on the players we bought last summer? Arsenal did it with Ozil and Sanchez, and it worked well. The psychological boost for the fans and the squad is important too.

Wages may be the insurmountable issue, but Levy will simply have to pay the going rate at some point. Why bother doing the hard work of building the profile of the club, leasing the biggest stadium in the country (which we can't fill) and then saying 'no, we won't pay our best players as much as West Ham do, we can't afford it.' Ok...why are we playing at Wembley then?

Janssen is a decent player, but in my opinion from having watched him a fair bit, his potential is limited purely because of his awkward style of play. Good in the build up, and may poach a few, but that's it.

Indeed. I mean now really is especially the time to make a 'big signing' as the rest of the team is pretty much where it needs to be. We're one signing away (RB) from being able to say that in keeping this group of players together, any further signings should only be big quality signings. At least in the near future. The only reason why Arsenal's signing of Ozil and Sanchez haven't been even better than they actually have been (in Sanchez's case anyway) is because they still need work done to the rest of the team.

With the current level of players in the team and the new stadium, this is such a big opportunity for the club to really actually make it to that next level with the right additions. The level that will really see us compete strongly in the CL for instance.
 

Clark28

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And I remember giving my serious concerns even before we signed him. And this was Poch's choice, full out. He is not even cutting it in training.
I was happy to give him a 2nd season to show his worth, but if he can't cut it in training (and we all know that Poch signs players to train, not play) then it's time for him to go.
 

Carson35

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If we'd spent the combined transfer fees of Janssen, N'Koudou and Sissoko on someone to come into the first team we could've won the league last season.

Unfortunately, the player who is that expensive and that good wouldn't choose us. Even if we agree to pay the transfer fee, how about the wages? That type of expensive and great player won't come cheap.
 

ebzrascal

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I still think there is something worth persevering with here and would only ship out if we were replacing with a significant upgrade - not another punt, I'd rather give our man some more time and opportunity.

I've still not seen a genuine name suggested who would be affordable, gettable and willing to sit on our bench.

Happy to keep Janssen as long as we get a very pacy striker in who can dribble to complement Son and Kane
 

archiewasking

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And I remember giving my serious concerns even before we signed him. And this was Poch's choice, full out. He is not even cutting it in training.

Opinion or fact?

And if you know your manager will never put you on, how long can you stay motivated?
 

paulcumpstone

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Poch for me recently is having a fucking mare.dont buy benteke or origi being any better than janssen nor do i get the "doesn't trust him bollocks" when he keeps bringing on the useless sissoko.
 
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