Walker Praises AVB

[Yid121]

Finally some good press for AVB. Great little interview this, Walker is such a top lad

Anyone who thinks the appointment of Andre Villas-Boas in succession to Harry Redknapp was a dangerous gamble should think again, according to the club's England full-back Kyle Walker.
Tottenham travel to Reading seeking their first Premier League win after a shaky start that has yielded just two points from three games, but Walker says everyone has been pulling in the same direction since Villas- Boas was controversially appointed Redknapp's successor, despite having been sacked by Chelsea in March.


High praise: Kyle Walker says AVB has impressed at Spurs
As part of the new broom sweeping into Spurs, last week the club used their new £45million state-of-the-art training ground for the first time.
Walker is convinced it will revive their fortunes with Villas-Boas in charge, even though the 34-year-old has a record of just three wins from his last 15 games in the top flight.

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'The gaffer has been top-class tactically and training-wise it's the hardest I can ever remember in my career,' said Walker.
'Results may not have come but it takes time to gel. Personally, I don't feel any pressure. If you feel pressure in football, you're not going to play your best. Once we put into practice what we are working on in training, we could go out and beat someone 6-0. I'm certain it will come good.'
Rumour has it that, in the last few months of Redknapp's four-year reign, some players were uncomfortable with his coaching methods - or lack of them.
And according to Walker, Villas-Boas has been a breath of fresh air.
'I was excited when he got the job. Chelsea are Chelsea, Spurs are Spurs,' said Walker, who was talking at the launch of the FIFA 13 Demo.
'There has been no bickering whatsoever. The gaffer before was very old school but it's modern- day football now. It's fast, it's quick, the tempo is frightening.'

Walker revealed how his fellow England full-back Ashley Cole played up the credentials of AVB despite the well-chronicled fallouts at Stamford Bridge.
He said: 'Ashley had nothing but positive things to say about him.
'I remember playing against Ashley when the gaffer was at Chelsea. He was incredibly difficult to mark because of the way the gaffer gets his full-backs playing.
'Jose Mourinho was known as the Special One - maybe he learned from him.'


Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2203801/Kyle-Walker-We-love-playing-Andre-Villas-Boas.html#ixzz26aInvduF

 

[Harry_Snatch]

sounds good. seems the players are fully committed to learning. Reckon that we might open Reading up tomo.

 

[ItsBoris]

"The gaffer before was was very old school but it's modern-day football now."

Found that very funny for some reason. Yes let's hope we go out and beat someone 6-0 soon because we haven't done that for a while.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

You'll have to get rid of the pictures, Yid121. A&C might blow a gasket.

 

[lillywhites61]

Some good quotes there. Good to here positivity coming out of the camp

 

[liam17oi]

But...but...but...The Sun and Sky said none of the players knew what was going on and AVB was hated and he is doomed to failure and the world is going to implode in a moment of unrelenting pseudo-tactical talk by the 'Chelsea failure' and his wife hates him and even the sheep herders in the Himalayas hate him.

Great quotes by Kyle. Really, really, hope we thump them. The Sky lads weren't really complimentary about us today!

 

[Davo99]

They never are

But...but...but...The Sun and Sky said none of the players knew what was going on and AVB was hated and he is doomed to failure and the world is going to implode in a moment of unrelenting pseudo-tactical talk by the 'Chelsea failure' and his wife hates him and even the sheep herders in the Himalayas hate him.

Great quotes by Kyle. Really, really, hope we thump them. The Sky lads weren't really complimentary about us today!

They never are Liam.

 

[worcestersauce]

They are old school.

 

[parklane1]

But we have such a unhappy ship

 

[IMISSVDV]

Walker needs to improve. He has been poor so far this season.

Sure he will, hopefully starting today!

Coys.

 

[TheGreenLily]

Me like Walker, seems like he is very keen to learn new ideas, as well as, revealing how much bullshit is being touted about by the press.

Nice one

 

[ecce_tottenham]

This thread has cheered me up no end.

Good pr work Kyle!

 

[StartingPrice]

sounds good. seems the players are fully committed to learning. Reckon that we might open Reading up tomo.

And so they should be.
But it is the vital element, and the main reason I felt he would struggle at Chelea. It is just too easy to see him (then) as a 32 YO menial, and not the boss who teaches you new things and directs you, in a situation like that. And too easy to obfuscate the fact that because he never really had a playing career, as such, he also began the courses and jobs in his teens/early twenties* that ex-players are usually doing in their late thrities and early forties. As a manager, he is comparable to them and his experience more like that of a 45 YO. Sure he lacks the accumulated playing experience of former players, but, IMVHO, some of the best of them had to retire early through serious injury - a prime example, of course, being Brian Clough. How old was he when he took over at Derby? And what was his management experience (yes, I know that in the modern game no-one is likely to take over a team near the foot of the Cahmpionship and make the EPL winners within a couple of seasons, of course, even if they were given Citeh levels of funding)?

*I don't know for certain exactly how old he did when he did what were, I'm sure it is on Wiki

"The gaffer before was was very old school but it's modern-day football now."

Found that very funny for some reason. Yes let's hope we go out and beat someone 6-0 soon because we haven't done that for a while.

Yeah, that kinda stuck out...as did the comment about Ashley Cole. Honestly, I do believe that the meeja are on a witch-hunt with this fella, and that it begin long before he joined us (I know I'm hardly unique in believing this ).

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

And so they should be.
But it is the vital element, and the main reason I felt he would struggle at Chelea. It is just too easy to see him (then) as a 32 YO menial, and not the boss who teaches you new things and directs you, in a situation like that. And too easy to obfuscate the fact that because he never really had a playing career, as such, he also began the courses and jobs in his teens/early twenties* that ex-players are usually doing in their late thrities and early forties. As a manager, he is comparable to them and his experience more like that of a 45 YO. Sure he lacks the accumulated playing experience of former players, but, IMVHO, some of the best of them had to retire early through serious injury - a prime example, of course, being Brian Clough. How old was he when he took over at Derby? And what was his management experience (yes, I know that in the modern game no-one is likely to take over a team near the foot of the Cahmpionship and make the EPL winners within a couple of seasons, of course, even if they were given Citeh levels of funding)?

*I don't know for certain exactly how old he did when he did what were, I'm sure it is on Wiki



Yeah, that kinda stuck out...as did the comment about Ashley Cole. Honestly, I do believe that the meeja are on a witch-hunt with this fella, and that it begin long before he joined us (I know I'm hardly unique in believing this ).

I can understand the witch hunt though. He comes across as having the arrogance of Moutinho, but without the one liners, and most importantly, the wins to back it up.

 

[Harry_Snatch]

And so they should be.
But it is the vital element, and the main reason I felt he would struggle at Chelea. It is just too easy to see him (then) as a 32 YO menial, and not the boss who teaches you new things and directs you, in a situation like that. And too easy to obfuscate the fact that because he never really had a playing career, as such, he also began the courses and jobs in his teens/early twenties* that ex-players are usually doing in their late thrities and early forties. As a manager, he is comparable to them and his experience more like that of a 45 YO. Sure he lacks the accumulated playing experience of former players, but, IMVHO, some of the best of them had to retire early through serious injury - a prime example, of course, being Brian Clough. How old was he when he took over at Derby? And what was his management experience (yes, I know that in the modern game no-one is likely to take over a team near the foot of the Cahmpionship and make the EPL winners within a couple of seasons, of course, even if they were given Citeh levels of funding)?

*I don't know for certain exactly how old he did when he did what were, I'm sure it is on Wiki



Yeah, that kinda stuck out...as did the comment about Ashley Cole. Honestly, I do believe that the meeja are on a witch-hunt with this fella, and that it begin long before he joined us (I know I'm hardly unique in believing this ).

Happily Meeja witch hunts usually fail these days once the fans are onto them. I think in this case the vast majority of Spurs fans are behind AVB.

In terms of his lack of playing experience, I am sure he has coaches that have that strength to make up for his weakness. Technical skills are technical skills, you don't need experience to coach or recognize them. Tactics are similar.
I think Clough is a great comparison and he was nothing without his assistant.

ATM the media are a joke, I was listening to Collymore trying to argue that Rodgers getting promoted and doing ok with Swansea is as good an achievement as winning the quadruple with Porto. The europa league is shit but it's better than the championship and man utd got their asses well and truly handed to them in it last year ( with their first 11 ).

 

[StartingPrice]

I can understand the witch hunt though. He comes across as having the arrogance of Moutinho, but without the one liners, and most importantly, the wins to back it up.

Does he? I don't think so. I think he was prtrayed in the meeja as being a certain way, when he was at Cheslea, which was horribly one-sided and prejudicial,and this has carried over. He comes across to me as being passionate and hugely confident, but there again most managers do (it's leadership 1-0-1) - 'Arry's a pretty confident fella himself. I am sure he has some character flaws, weall do - but I don't see him at all as arrogant, and I have seen nothing since he joined us to suggest he is.

Obviously, he wasn't as successful as Mourinho, but he was more successful in a shorter time-scale - in other words, Mourinho didn't win all the trophies he accumulated at Porto in his first season there, AVB did it in one season. Indeed, I don't know how old Mourinho was or how long it took him to win three trophies at Porto, including a major European honour. That would be a fairer comparison, wouldn't you agree?

 

[StartingPrice]

Happily Meeja witch hunts usually fail these days once the fans are onto them. I think in this case the vast majority of Spurs fans are behind AVB.

In terms of his lack of playing experience, I am sure he has coaches that have that strength to make up for his weakness. Technical skills are technical skills, you don't need experience to coach or recognize them. Tactics are similar.
I think Clough is a great comparison and he was nothing without his assistant.

ATM the media are a joke, I was listening to Collymore trying to argue that Rodgers getting promoted and doing ok with Swansea is as good an achievement as winning the quadruple with Porto. The europa league is shit but it's better than the championship and man utd got their asses well and truly handed to them in it last year ( with their first 11 ).

I agree with everything you say...except the Europa league is not shit, it is just treated with contempt by certain quarters in England. I watched a fair bit of it last season and there were some good teams and exciting football in that competition. I am sure Citeh and United really wanted to win it.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Does he? I don't think so. I think he was prtrayed in the meeja as being a certain way, when he was at Cheslea, which was horribly one-sided and prejudicial,and this has carried over. He comes across to me as being passionate and hugely confident, but there again most managers do (it's leadership 1-0-1) - 'Arry's a pretty confident fella himself. I am sure he has some character flaws, weall do - but I don't see him at all as arrogant, and I have seen nothing since he joined us to suggest he is.

Obviously, he wasn't as successful as Mourinho, but he was more successful in a shorter time-scale - in other words, Mourinho didn't win all the trophies he accumulated at Porto in his first season there, AVB did it in one season. Indeed, I don't know how old Mourinho was or how long it took him to win three trophies at Porto, including a major European honour. That would be a fairer comparison, wouldn't you agree?

Or perhaps factoring in their Premier League successes into the comparison would give a more complete picture, no? As AVB only has 3 wins in his last 15 Premier League games then I think it is safe to say that the 'comparison' as it were, really has no basis.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Does he? I don't think so. I think he was prtrayed in the meeja as being a certain way, when he was at Cheslea, which was horribly one-sided and prejudicial,and this has carried over. He comes across to me as being passionate and hugely confident, but there again most managers do (it's leadership 1-0-1) - 'Arry's a pretty confident fella himself. I am sure he has some character flaws, weall do - but I don't see him at all as arrogant, and I have seen nothing since he joined us to suggest he is.

Obviously, he wasn't as successful as Mourinho, but he was more successful in a shorter time-scale - in other words, Mourinho didn't win all the trophies he accumulated at Porto in his first season there, AVB did it in one season. Indeed, I don't know how old Mourinho was or how long it took him to win three trophies at Porto, including a major European honour. That would be a fairer comparison, wouldn't you agree?

Oh, and actually Mourinho took over mid way through the season and amassed an 11 wins, 2 draws, and 2 defeats record for the remainder of that season. In his first full season in charge he too won the portuguese title, portuguese cup, and the uefa cup (europa league). The following season he won the portuguese league again, as well as the champions league.

So they both did the treble in their first full season in charge. Perhaps AVB would have won the CL the following season, but we'll never know. It is when they both got to England, with the same club (again), that their records drastically diverged.

 

[StartingPrice]

Or perhaps factoring in their Premier League successes into the comparison would give a more complete picture, no? As AVB only has 3 wins in his last 15 Premier League games then I think it is safe to say that the 'comparison' as it were, really has no basis.

No, I don't think it is relevant to factor in the EPL successes. Maybe Mourinho's first one, but the contexts were completely different. Mourinho took over a Chelsea team on the crest of a wave, due to being the Big Boys with the Big Stick. he inherited a good team and was allowed to lavish untold million on players at that peak to fill it out. AVb inherited a Chelsea side with quite a few aged veterans from the Mourinho days, and a hodge-podge of a squad around them comprised of players that one incoming manager, who didn't last, wanted, who were then unwanted by the next incumbent, who, in turn brought in his own nominees, many of whom were unwanted by his successor in turn. AVB took over a team that had developed a notoriously poisonous dressing-room since Mourinho's departure. Most importantly, AVB took over a club that is no longer the Biggest Boy with the Biggest Stick, and his immediate remit was totally different to Mourinho's. The comparison doesn't really hold good.

1) Oh, and actually Mourinho took over mid way through the season and amassed an 11 wins, 2 draws, and 2 defeats record for the remainder of that season. 2) In his first full season in charge he too won the portuguese title, portuguese cup, and the uefa cup (europa league). 3) The following season he won the portuguese league again, as well as the champions league.

So they both did the treble in their first full season in charge. Perhaps AVB would have won the CL the following season, but we'll never know. 4) It is when they both got to England, with the same club (again), that their records drastically diverged.

1) Not bad. AVB didn't lose any games in his first 15 in charge.
2) A fair and direct comparison. AVB did it while remaining unbeaten in the league.
3) AVB didn't have a second season*, so you are right, we will never know.
4) Yes...for which see above ^^^ Context makes the direct comparison you are tying to make less certain than you would have it.

Look, Spak, if it makes you feel any better, for fear of beating my own drum , I said last Summer that AVB had taken on such a big job way too soon, he had made a horrible choice of jobs, and that I thought he was on the definitive hiding to nothing, due to his previous work as a relative menial at the club, the nature of his remit (again, see above), the fact that he had no experience in the EPL, the fact that Chelsea were no longer the undisputed richest kids on the block who could outspend anyone, and the simple plain fact that at 32 YO he was being asked to manage players older than him who he was supposed to phase out and had created something of a poisonous dressing-room. It seemed obvious to me that once he had a few bad results (always going to happen with a remit like his), those older players were going to start acting the Billy and demanding to know who this kid was.

I also suggested that once he went through that experience, gained that vital year in the EPL, and was jsut plain a year older, he may make a decent manager for us. He wasn't my first choice to replace Mr Redknapp, but I do think the meeja is whipping a lot of fans up to not give him a proper chance, and basing it on a very superficial reading of his time at Chelsea and nothing more, TBH.