We are second in the Price per Point table

[Bus-Conductor]

A couple of weeks ago I was mulling over trying to figure out who got the best value from their signings. I was secretly hoping one of our diligent statisticians might take up the gauntlet, but alas no. Coincidently there was a little article in the Times on Sunday along similar lines entitled "Moyes The Budget Maestro". It analysed the spending of the top 10 clubs from the time they were bought by their current owners to the end of 2010-11, giving a price per point figure as follows:

Research suggests David Moyes is the most cost-effective manager in the Premier League. Since Bill kenwright became chairman at Goodison in 2004, Everton under Moyes, amassed 415 EPL points up to the end of 2010-11 seasonal the rate of £48,192.77 a point. Statistics are based on total spending by the top ten clubs in the 2010-11 campaign and show how much each point cost from the time each club was bought until the end of that season.

I assumed they meant total spend from the time the current club regime came in up to the end of 2010-11 season, but I'm really not sure how they are actually deriving their figures.

Edit: Added table

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Jesus I've fucked about with that several times but can't make it more presentable. Mods, help ?

 

[Kingstheman]

Club PPP Points Purchase Date

Bargain Scousers £48,192.77 415 2004
Tottenham £303,191.49 564 2001
Al Fayed's money £456,195.65 460 1997
Randy Lerner's money £988,235.29 289 2006
Can't possibly be true £1,406,617.65 680 2003
This hides our American debt £1,510,516.25 523 2005
We don't spend any money, we're so well run, honest! £2,453,020.13 298 2007
Mackems £2,257,526.88 93 2009
Can't possibly be true 2 £5,335,106.38 188 2008
Loserfool £7,525,423.73 59 2010

Better, B-C?

 

[OmarsComing]

[táble]what you want to post in the table[/tble] add an a obv

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Thanks, whoever did that.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

That can't be right or am I misreading it? Our net spend is £150m since 2001 and Sunderland's is £200m since 2009?

Do you have a link to the article?

 

[Locotoro]

That table is hugely disingenuous as the teams that have been recently bought have had less time to accrue points despite still overspending in the last few years of the general market.

 

[Jamturk]

Reading soccernomics at the moment, they say the real price per point table that should be used is payer wages.

 

[$hoguN]

The table is not really a fair reflection of spending as they are measured across different periods

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Surely this can't be net spend on transfers, makes no sense. That means that Arsenal have a net spend of £700m, so it must include the stadium. Are you sure this isn't the cost to the owners since taking over?

 

[nicdic]

I've put it into a table that should make it easier to read.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

I've put it into a table that should make it easier to read.

Easier to read but not to comprehend.

 

[robbiedee]

hmmmm...I don't care if it makes sense or not...we're 2nd in the league...woop woop

 

[SlickMongoose]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Get the fuck in!

 

[Montasura]

Once again we have another opportunity to laugh at Liverpool and their £7.5m spend per point!!!

 

[Donki]

Puts Moyes and Everton in a very good light too with those figures, he has surely been looked over by the big clubs and hope he gets a chance to prove his worth. Perhaps earmarked for the Manure post once whiskey nose finially retires? I know people say hes route one, too old school etc but I think he is underestimated by alot of fans. The guy knows what players he has and he picks a style to suit them, over the past season or so with the development of Fellani and getting an actual striker in his team he has been playing some good stuff.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Once again we have another opportunity to laugh at Liverpool and their £7.5m spend per point!!!

Again, clearly they haven't spent over £400m in a year. That must be the amount invested by the owners, i.e. the purchase of the club. If they bought the club for close to £400m then divided over a year of football the price per point is clearly going to be extremely high.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Puts Moyes in a very good light too with those figures, he has surely been looked over by the big clubs and hope he gets a chance to prove his worth. Perhaps earmarked for the Manure post once whiskey nose finially retires. I know people say hes route one, too old school etc but I think he is underestimated by alot of fans. The guy knows what players he has and he picks a style to suit them, over the past season or so with the development of Fellani and getting an actual striker in his team he has been playing some good stuff.

Nothing to do with Moyes at all is it? Kenwright bought the club for £20m back in 2004 and has invested nothing else. His £20m initial payment has been divided by the 415 points won in that time span, resulting in £48,192.77 per point.

 

[Donki]

Nothing to do with Moyes at all is it? Kenwright bought the club for £20m back in 2004 and has invested nothing else. His £20m initial payment has been divided by the 415 points won in that time span, resulting in £48,192.77 per point.

Ahhh I see your point, the figures really are a lot of brown then. I still think Moyes has done a very good job there with what hes got.

 

[StartingPrice]

It may not clearly indicate spending against PPG over time, or factoring players wages in, and may favour teams who spent their money a while ago over those who have spent recently (though, conversely, there is a good chance that all the players bought a decade ago will have left and been replaced), and, obviously, won't make allowance for players coming through from the youth system, and how much that costs per player produced (which would be an interesting stat in itself), but itdoes give a worthwhile basic indicator, none-the-less, IMHO.

BC, why does it come as no surprise to me to hear that you pace the halls of Castle-BC of a night, wrapt in thoughts of new ways to present statistical data