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Dharmabum

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Talk about bad loser. A team that didn't manage single shoot on goal, had the ball less than 30 % (also before van Persie was sent off) etc. etc....and yet he can't give credit to a much superior team. He for sure most be the most delusioned manager ever and fast losing respect in the football world. He told Pep to congratulate the ref for the victory. The worst loser in top-football so far.
Strangely he's totally forgotten the days when his team - particularly Pires & Henry - set en benchmark for diving skills (incrediblyl the press seemed to ignore all the penalties gooners got for dives not to speak of thos they didn't get when their players made what must be a record number of dives).



http://www.livesoccertv.com/news/30...torts-dictatorial-uefa-must-apologize-not-us/
Arsenal’s Bold Wenger Retorts: “Dictatorial” UEFA Must Apologize, Not Us!

Angela Asante, March 10th, 2011
Punishment from UEFA is about to fall upon Arsenal’s Samir Nasri as well as Arsene Wenger. But the Gunners’ coach is resolute to fight for his right with loud calls.


Arsene Wenger has actually been charged with improper conduct based on incidents that happened during Arsenal’s embarrassing defeat away to Barcelona in the UEFA Champions League. According to reports, it is very likely that the Frenchman will receive a two-match ban for abusively clashing against referee Massimo Busacca in the tunnel.

However, nothing has been confirmed yet as it is understood that it is only on March 17 that the issue will be heard. See these links for a better view of the topic. But UEFA’s decisions have apparently raised Arsene Wenger’s eyebrows. The Frenchman was quick to refute any allegations on Thursday. He told the media:


“I deny completely any charge. I don’t understand where that comes from. It’s a shame, for me, that the referee took the decision to send Van Persie off. It was the wrong decision.


“The first leg was a fantastic advert for football and the second game has been destroyed. People now will only remember the sending off.


“It would be good for UEFA to show some humility and to apologise for what has happened, not charge people who have done nothing wrong.


“We are out of the Champions League. We have lost one of our big ambitions. We have been punished with a lot of damages and, on top of that, we have to say sorry to Uefa!


“We have done nothing wrong. They organised the competition. They named the referees who come to the games.


“When you have a football game of that stature, you cannot come out with decisions like that and show a lot of arrogance on top of that.


“We can all understand that we can make wrong decisions, but after that, it becomes dictatorship. It’s not any more common sense.


“This decision frustrated us and frustrated everybody who loves football. You can check any statement I made on television after the game.


“If I have done anything wrong I am ready to be charged. As for what is said in the tunnel, if you can get only one thing where I have come out on what has been said against me or against the referee during my 15 years in England, I will pay for you to have a big holiday!”


Arsenal may have clinched an awful record according to Opta, but their coach, Arsene Wenger, may also make history. What if the Frenchman ends up inspiring football for a dramatic change when it comes to freedom of expression and justice?


Should he be right or wrong, Arsene Wenger may receive a lot of jeers from football fans for his resilience presently. But sooner or later, the Frenchman may end up earning the respect of many for various reasons – once again, related to controversy.


And here's some stats Whinger very conveniently "did not see"(from a forum)....

1st leg at the Emirates:

1. Legal Goal disallowed to Messi when the score was 0-1
2. Blatant handball in Arsenal's box when the scored was 0-1, 1st half
3. Penalty on Pedro (as clear as water) when he was 1 to 1 with your keeper and was fouled from behind, which should have been a straigth red card for your defender, when the score was 0-1.
4. Song who picked a yello in the 6th minute should've been sent off at least twice.

After the game, did we cry???? NOOOO!! We congratulated Arsenal since we could have thrased you in the 1st half, and we didnt... We did self-criticism and learn from it, despite that if we had had all this decitions right the score could have been very different.

2nd leg at the Camp Nou:

1. CLEAR PENALTY on Messi in the 1st half, not given...
2. Van Persie (your "great player") was involved in 2 bundles in the 1st half. He picked a SILLY yellow card in a throw in, in which he lost the sight of the ball turning around as the ball was coming towards him, to look for Alves face to slap him... He was VERY LUCKY to get away only with a yellow, since it was aggresion with no ball.... And then in the famous 55th min, after being forgiven by the referee a straigth red and being involved in 2 scraps... he kicked the ball once the referee had blown his whistle... which is a yellow card in England, in Spain or in the Moon... IT IS A YELLOW card.. the thing is that the referees many time just warn the players... but Van Persie had been giving trouble already... Was really the ref the one to be blamed, or Van Persie? or probably W**ger for not substituted him at half time when he was very agitated????
3. 2nd yellow card not given to your defender when Pedro was fouled in the box (penalty)

Do you really think that the referee benefited Barcelona, or just do not have a clue about football or just Arsenal are a bunch or bad losers, JUST LIKE W**ger IS.???
 

OmarsComing

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Crouch did a similar thing last night to what Van Pervert did vs Barcelona - there was an even bigger delay after the whistle had blown - and he wasn't even spoken to, let alone booked.

I would have been upset if this had happened to a Spurs player in such a big game.
 

roosh

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He is dead right, it was an absolute joke of a decision
 

danielneeds

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Talk about bad loser. A team that didn't manage single shoot on goal, had the ball less than 30 % (also before van Persie was sent off) etc. etc....and yet he can't give credit to a much superior team.

Inter had similar stats at the Nou Camp last year, yet Jose was lauded as a hero and master tactician.

Whatever bad traits Wenger has, he is dead right to fight UEFA on this. There is no transparency from them on the referee and his performance. At the time RVP was sent off the aggregate scores were level, so anything could have happened.
 

Dharmabum

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The thing is had not van Persie been such a jerk in a few instances before the incident he would not have been sent off. He was luck to actually not have been sent off before that incident so it was the last drop.
I agree in normal circumstances he should not have been sent off but he had pushed his luck for far too long...
 

leelee

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I hope Wenger takes them on and win's, He is right, everyone can accept bad decisions are made in the heat of the moment but to then be charged by UEFA for comments made to the ref is despicable. The ref and UEFA should be apologising to Wenger and Arse.

As much as it was a one-sided game at the Nou Camp, if Bendtner had finished, it would have been the Goons in the QF.
 

dvdhopeful

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If Van Persie had been sent off for the first one, would people have complained? Hands up in the Barca players face, people are red carded for the same.

Having said that, once the ref gives just a yellow, to get booked again for kicking the ball away after such a tiny amount of time, was ridiculous.

Wenger probably has a point in what he is saying, however, the majority of people will just role their eyes because he is the most pathetic individual around. He is ignoring a number of poor decisions over the 180 minutes which really aided Le Arse - his claims seem to suggest the ref only helped Barca, when over the course of the tie, the reverse is probably true.
 

Mchillio

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It was harsh but in my opinion what goes around comes around!! The goons rode their luck for a number of years with diving and generally being arseholes so now they are getting their come uppance and i for love am loving it. Lets hope they go to old trafford and get dicked this weeked.
 

michaelden

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in isolation that decision was shocking. over the course of the 2 legs, Arsenal were lucky to not give away 3 more penalties and have 2 other players sent off
 

worcestersauce

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I hope he wins, what he said effectively is that the referee has absolutely no understanding of what it is to be a footballer, taking a half hearted shot like that is exactly what you do when you are frustrated at being caught offside, how could a referee not understand that? If that's the Uefa rules then the Uefa rules are wrong.

As for all this old tripe about Barcelona had a hundred and fifty attempts on goal or whatever it was well thats bollox; they only count when they go in, if they don't then they are irrelevant! Only goals count, this is football not rugby.
 

Dharmabum

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I hope he wins, what he said effectively is that the referee has absolutely no understanding of what it is to be a footballer, taking a half hearted shot like that is exactly what you do when you are frustrated at being caught offside, how could a referee not understand that? If that's the Uefa rules then the Uefa rules are wrong.

As for all this old tripe about Barcelona had a hundred and fifty attempts on goal or whatever it was well thats bollox; they only count when they go in, if they don't then they are irrelevant! Only goals count, this is football not rugby.

Well, the thing is that Whinger ALWAYS complain when his team loses but have out played/passed an oppononent and then go on moaning how defensive etc the opponent was. He shoot himself in the foot now - as no team have been more pathetic in front of goal in any CL game ever.
Yes, it was a pathetic decisision to send off van Persie but by that time Barca should have had an extra 3 pentalties and at least one goal (Messi).
 

dontcallme

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The fact is that rightful penalties are not given all the time, offsides are given when the player was not and refs generally miss things. These are realities of football.

But a player going through on goal and shooting when the whistle was blown just one second before and then being booked for it is ridiculous. Van Persie wasn't frustrated and he wasn't aware of the offside. It was a scandalous decision and Arsenal should be incensed.

Yes Barcelona deserved to win, yes arsenal didn't get a shot on target all night, yes Barcelona had a perfectly good goal disallowed in the first leg and Barca had a couple of good penalty shouts turned down but the decision on Van Persie was unjustified and shouldn't happen. Any ref should understand that Van Persie was just taking a shot.
 

spurs

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i believe Van Perse did know he was offside. He didn't striek the ball or react as if that was his only chance of the game. He had seen the offside flag - he knew he was offside. Yes it was a very harsh decision but Arsenal had been struggling all game and were doing everything they coudl to slow the game down. Some of the ITV pundits said the same in the late CL show. Still a very very very harsh decision but Wenger's selective vision is a joke.
 

roosh

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i believe Van Perse did know he was offside. He didn't striek the ball or react as if that was his only chance of the game. He had seen the offside flag - he knew he was offside. Yes it was a very harsh decision but Arsenal had been struggling all game and were doing everything they coudl to slow the game down. Some of the ITV pundits said the same in the late CL show. Still a very very very harsh decision but Wenger's selective vision is a joke.

I would be inclined to agree that Percy heard the whistle. I think his initial reaction to being booked indicated as much.

Still though, having heard the whistle or not, there is no way in a million years he should have been booked for it, not to mind getting a second booking for it. If he hadn't been sent off, then despite all the possession and chances Barca created, Arsenal could still have nicked it; of course they would have, had Bendtner controlled and scored - that may have been even more likely with eleven against eleven.
 

MrWoolley

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Crouch did a similar thing last night to what Van Pervert did vs Barcelona - there was an even bigger delay after the whistle had blown - and he wasn't even spoken to, let alone booked.

I would have been upset if this had happened to a Spurs player in such a big game.

Yep I remember that Crouch shot.

The Van Persie decision was very very poor, in my opinion.
 
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