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PCozzie

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Still not entirely sure how arsenal thought they should have thrashed us?
They're not talking about the match that happened in reality, they're talking about the match that occured in their heads where Saka and Martinelli both scored hat-tricks. It's what happens when you're detatched from reality. When you're hypothetically the best team that has ever existed then it's easy to imagine matches where you thrash the opposition. It should happen every week.
 

aRTy

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Spurs win
Rival fans: f##king S***s! Lucky bastards!

Spurs win again
Rival fans: lucky, lucky spuds!! When is there luck gonna run out!! Ange is fat!!

Spurs win again again
Rival fans: MEDIA DARLINGS. PL AND PGMOL ARE CONSPIRING TO GIVE THEM THE TITLE

Repeat ad infinitum

And when we inevitably lose it'll be "back to where they belong" "typical spurs" even though a powerhouse like City has already lost this season.
 

BorjeSpurs

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And when we inevitably lose it'll be "back to where they belong" "typical spurs" even though a powerhouse like City has already lost this season.
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BehindEnemyLines

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Apr 13, 2006
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Piers Morgan was a guest on Talksport this morning bigging up arsenal as title contenders, but apparently they don't need to worry about Spurs because we're bottle jobs.......and at no point did anyone bring up last seasons monumental bottling from them.

*sorry - had a couple after work, so hopefully makes more sense now! :D
 
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DenverSpur

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Sep 25, 2011
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This is bang on. Bottom half teams all played Leicester like it was a must win, especially at home; and left themselves open to the counter. It drove me mad - if teams had defended Leicester with a low block that year there is no way they get close to 81 points
I disagree.
Bottom half teams wanted Leicester to win the league so, especially if they didn’t feel relegation threatened themselves, they were happy to let Leicester win points from them. The classic one was Swansea who literally gifted Leicester 2 goals early in the game and then made little to no effort to try and get anything from the game.

Conversely those same teams bust a gut against us. Two weeks before they played us at home WBA were at Arsenal where they acted like their summer vacation had already begun. Fast forward 2 weeks and before the game their manager, Pulis, stated that he wanted Leicester to win the league. Subsequently WBA played that night like they needed the points to avoid relegation and we only drew 1-1.

They saw Leicester as a club like them who were sticking it to the big boys so they were happy to help them to the title if they could.
In fact everyone got on the bandwagon of wanting Leicester to win the title. I believe match officials were subconsciously affected. The last minute penalty awarded against WHU which enabled Leicester to get a draw was extremely soft IMHO.
Then there was the media. Sky’s decision to schedule us to play 4 Monday games in a row with only 7-8 games of the season to go was a blatant attempt by them to tip the title race in Leicester’s favour.
I’m not going to say Leicester didn’t deserve to win the title- fair dos to them they held their nerve while we didn’t- but there were many other actors in the drama doing their best to help them.
 
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fletch82

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Aug 23, 2015
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Match stats

🤔
Tottenham
TEAM STATS
Liverpool
24Shots12
8Shots on target4
65%Possession35%
662Passes364
91%Pass accuracy77%
11Fouls17
5Yellow cards4
0Red cards2
4Offsides1
11Corners5
 

Stamford

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Sep 15, 2015
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I disagree.
Bottom half teams wanted Leicester to win the league so, especially if they didn’t feel relegation threatened themselves, they were happy to let Leicester win points from them. The classic one was Swansea who literally gifted Leicester 2 goals early in the game and then made little to no effort to try and get anything from the game.

Conversely those same teams bust a gut against us. Two weeks before they played us at home WBA were at Arsenal where they acted like their summer vacation had already begun. Fast forward 2 weeks and before the game their manager, Pulis, stated that he wanted Leicester to win the league. Subsequently WBA played that night like they needed the points to avoid relegation and we only drew 1-1.

They saw Leicester as a club like them who were sticking it to the big boys so they were happy to help them to the title if they could.
In fact everyone got on the bandwagon of wanting Leicester to win the title. I believe match officials were subconsciously affected. The last minute penalty awarded against WHU which enabled Leicester to get a draw was extremely soft IMHO.
Then there was the media. Sky’s decision to schedule us to play 4 Monday games in a row with only 7-8 games of the season to go was a blatant attempt by them to tip the title race in Leicester’s favour.
I’m not going to say Leicester didn’t deserve to win the title- fair dos to them they held their nerve while we didn’t- but there were many other actors in the drama doing their best to help them.

This is spot on. The referee and atmosphere in the Leicester West Ham game was hilarious that year. The ref was desperate to help them win it
 

markt

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Aug 31, 2012
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Half of them have accepted we look good.

The other half are still in denial.

This luck thing is being totally over egged because of the Liverpool game.

All teams have varying amount of luck, and the Gooners have had their fair share.

But as the old saying goes, you make your own luck too.

This isn't 3/4 games in, its 8.

Not a huge amount of games in , but enough to start looking at the table and how it's shaping up.
To be fair that sums up most rival fan bases. Performances have been so much better than last season, reasoned fans will credit us for that. Some will know it, but won't admit it, then others just deluded. We have a fair few on here in all those categories.

One thing I do agree is we still lack depth in some areas. Without Maddison, Son and Bissouma we are severely weakened. I also think at CB we are light if our starting 2 get injured it is a big drop off.

Still finding Liverpool fans the most entertaining. They are just so hard done to being the only team ever to have a decision go against them.
 

Jgplk1

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Mar 16, 2005
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  • that boils my piss give us our goal you ##nts. we should hire private detectives to dig up the bung. That game was Fixed. all day fixed. communication error my sweaty balls.
    Literally they do whatever they want. the sanctimony weve heard all week after a soft red and a false red and a non pen and a non goal and a trip to the crooked country that buys everything and owns our biggest competitior just 2 days earlier and now the same laws can be ignored to get it right a week later
    Theyve got to be called up for not correcting the "mistake". "we cant do anything" aimed at the fucking replay kid because everyone else knew
  • No doubt the anti LFC c***s in the media and twattersphere will say that the Burnley- Chelsea stoppage was a result of our complaint so what are we whingeing about
  • That's not really working though, when they're still riding the "couldn't stop the match because of var protocol and the laws"-train for our case. Add to that, that I have not seen any news that IFAB have changed the var protocol or the laws of the game after our match and certainly neither the league nor the fa nor pgmol could implement such a change. We should be asking for that game to be replayed or voided because of illegal usage of var...
  • Has club drawn a line in the sand or still reviewing their options?
  • Find it odd - other supporters think we should "let it go" now. A week is a long time it seems
  • It's hopefully the owners who aren't going to 'let it go', they aren't in this to lose money.
    Not sure if we are biding our time and looking at what our realistic options are or are we waiting for Webb to do his promotional piece on TV. Hopefully it's one of the two and we aren't going to let it slide.
  • I think the silence means that there is maybe contemplation on what legal avenues are available and what financial recourse there may be should we, for instance, miss out on something significant by a point or three. For instance, we all know CL qualification is highly lucrative, and missing out on that revenue will impact us on many levels - from transfer budgets to sponsorship dollars. This will be quantified and I believe it will then be communicated to the PGMOL, and then left for them to decide how they think to best proceed. They might then revise their hard stance on the result and the idea of a replay. Or the club may lay bait, and only use it if and when we do miss out on something lucrative. We are still able to win the league or qualify for CL from here, in fact we are in a very good position to do just that.
    It would be even more damning for the PGMOL I think, if Spurs are the ones to qualify at our expense.
    Think there’s just lots of lawyering happening, but behind the scenes within minimum disruption to our team
  • Sick of the game and the c***s ruining it - include the players and their gamesmanship in that as well as the corrupt officials
  • Is it the same?
    In our case England said 'check complete', thus sealing our faith apparently.
    In this case the check wasn't complete, so the play was reset until it was.
    but we don't have the audio, so how do we know what was communicated?
    has PGMOL even been asked to release it?
  • Kovacic just done a red card challenge, then followed with another almost the same, no red.
    If you genuinely still think nothing is going on you are naive as fuck.
    I’m past caring now, absolutely no point as nothing will get done due to the full on tribalism in the game
  • I honestly don’t think it’s personal in some respects, the refs have been getting first class trips to Abu Dhabi and been given 20k for one single match, so if you are not as thick as a rock you can see that is far beyond what would be deemed as not only suspicious but so so wrong in terms of regulations. I mean people working for large stores aren’t allowed to accept as much as a fucking pen from suppliers, yet somehow the PL thinks a 20k one off game is nothing to worry about.
    What my point is, is that Abu Dhabi owning city have their interest in city and anyone else that gets in their way is just collateral damage.
    The game is getting ruined and if you can’t see that or even entertain the possibility with these trips to Abu Dhabi then you really are pretty daft
  • PGMOL? 3 refs get an all expenses paid, likely First Class on a certain 787-9, and £20k payment and they're fucking fine with it
    :butt

  • Anyone posed this yet? A completely different narrative here.
    It's OK to hang the ref out to dry and talk about "ruining the game" when it's not Liverpool. Shouldn't they just get over it?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67046430
  • Why are we still talking about this? It's Monday now, surely we should have moved on and just accepted it?
  • We can only move on when Gary Neville says we can move on.
 

alexis

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Sep 1, 2012
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I disagree.
Bottom half teams wanted Leicester to win the league so, especially if they didn’t feel relegation threatened themselves, they were happy to let Leicester win points from them. The classic one was Swansea who literally gifted Leicester 2 goals early in the game and then made little to no effort to try and get anything from the game.

Conversely those same teams bust a gut against us. Two weeks before they played us at home WBA were at Arsenal where they acted like their summer vacation had already begun. Fast forward 2 weeks and before the game their manager, Pulis, stated that he wanted Leicester to win the league. Subsequently WBA played that night like they needed the points to avoid relegation and we only drew 1-1.

They saw Leicester as a club like them who were sticking it to the big boys so they were happy to help them to the title if they could.
In fact everyone got on the bandwagon of wanting Leicester to win the title. I believe match officials were subconsciously affected. The last minute penalty awarded against WHU which enabled Leicester to get a draw was extremely soft IMHO.
Then there was the media. Sky’s decision to schedule us to play 4 Monday games in a row with only 7-8 games of the season to go was a blatant attempt by them to tip the title race in Leicester’s favour.
I’m not going to say Leicester didn’t deserve to win the title- fair dos to them they held their nerve while we didn’t- but there were many other actors in the drama doing their best to help them.
Seriously stop smoking weed
 

alexis

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Sep 1, 2012
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Also battered
Match stats

🤔
Tottenham
TEAM STATS
Liverpool
24Shots12
8Shots on target4
65%Possession35%
662Passes364
91%Pass accuracy77%
11Fouls17
5Yellow cards4
0Red cards2
4Offsides1
11Corners5
Means nothing though, time we’ve seen teams with the possession lose, and at what did the data look like 11vs11.
 

Thenewcat

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Aug 8, 2019
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RAWK
  • that boils my piss give us our goal you ##nts. we should hire private detectives to dig up the bung. That game was Fixed. all day fixed. communication error my sweaty balls.
    Literally they do whatever they want. the sanctimony weve heard all week after a soft red and a false red and a non pen and a non goal and a trip to the crooked country that buys everything and owns our biggest competitior just 2 days earlier and now the same laws can be ignored to get it right a week later
    Theyve got to be called up for not correcting the "mistake". "we cant do anything" aimed at the fucking replay kid because everyone else knew
  • No doubt the anti LFC c***s in the media and twattersphere will say that the Burnley- Chelsea stoppage was a result of our complaint so what are we whingeing about
  • That's not really working though, when they're still riding the "couldn't stop the match because of var protocol and the laws"-train for our case. Add to that, that I have not seen any news that IFAB have changed the var protocol or the laws of the game after our match and certainly neither the league nor the fa nor pgmol could implement such a change. We should be asking for that game to be replayed or voided because of illegal usage of var...
  • Has club drawn a line in the sand or still reviewing their options?
  • Find it odd - other supporters think we should "let it go" now. A week is a long time it seems

  • Not sure if we are biding our time and looking at what our realistic options are or are we waiting for Webb to do his promotional piece on TV. Hopefully it's one of the two and we aren't going to let it slide.
  • I think the silence means that there is maybe contemplation on what legal avenues are available and what financial recourse there may be should we, for instance, miss out on something significant by a point or three. For instance, we all know CL qualification is highly lucrative, and missing out on that revenue will impact us on many levels - from transfer budgets to sponsorship dollars. This will be quantified and I believe it will then be communicated to the PGMOL, and then left for them to decide how they think to best proceed. They might then revise their hard stance on the result and the idea of a replay. Or the club may lay bait, and only use it if and when we do miss out on something lucrative. We are still able to win the league or qualify for CL from here, in fact we are in a very good position to do just that.
    It would be even more damning for the PGMOL I think, if Spurs are the ones to qualify at our expense.
    Think there’s just lots of lawyering happening, but behind the scenes within minimum disruption to our team
  • Sick of the game and the c***s ruining it - include the players and their gamesmanship in that as well as the corrupt officials

  • but we don't have the audio, so how do we know what was communicated?
    has PGMOL even been asked to release it?
  • Kovacic just done a red card challenge, then followed with another almost the same, no red.
    If you genuinely still think nothing is going on you are naive as fuck.
    I’m past caring now, absolutely no point as nothing will get done due to the full on tribalism in the game
  • I honestly don’t think it’s personal in some respects, the refs have been getting first class trips to Abu Dhabi and been given 20k for one single match, so if you are not as thick as a rock you can see that is far beyond what would be deemed as not only suspicious but so so wrong in terms of regulations. I mean people working for large stores aren’t allowed to accept as much as a fucking pen from suppliers, yet somehow the PL thinks a 20k one off game is nothing to worry about.
    What my point is, is that Abu Dhabi owning city have their interest in city and anyone else that gets in their way is just collateral damage.
    The game is getting ruined and if you can’t see that or even entertain the possibility with these trips to Abu Dhabi then you really are pretty daft
  • PGMOL? 3 refs get an all expenses paid, likely First Class on a certain 787-9, and £20k payment and they're fucking fine with it
    :butt

  • Anyone posed this yet? A completely different narrative here.
    It's OK to hang the ref out to dry and talk about "ruining the game" when it's not Liverpool. Shouldn't they just get over it?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67046430
  • Why are we still talking about this? It's Monday now, surely we should have moved on and just accepted it?
  • We can only move on when Gary Neville says we can move on.
I’ve given it some thought and I’ve decided the only fair thing to do is replay the worst officiated game I’ve ever seen. I am of course referring to Stoke 2 Spurs 1 from the 2011-12 season, a game so egregiously badly reffed it included:

- their first goal was a blatant handball by Crouch in the build up
- Adebayor had a goal disallowed that was miles onside
- Shawcross saved a shot on the line which should have been a pen and a red under the laws at the time
- we had at least 2 other very strong pen shouts turned down
- kaboul was sent off for absolutely nothing, whilst Woodgate should obviously have gone

For those counting at home, that’s 2
Goals, 3 pens and 3 players the ref cost us. 8 major incidents! Even the most batshit numpty above can only get to 4, and that includes the Gomez ‘penalty’.

Since we missed out on CL qualification by a point and this also required the worst goalkeeping performance in the history of the world by Martin Fulop, (may he rest in peace!) and Chelsea fluking their way past Barcelona and Bayern in the most outrageous fashion, I think we should push for a parliamentary enquiry. Obviously the Stoke game needs to be replayed (more than once if necessary) but I’m still working out the logistics of the following years’ champions league being rerun.

Am I doing this right? I’m trying to learn from the experts at RAWK….
 

Thenewcat

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Aug 8, 2019
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I disagree.
Bottom half teams wanted Leicester to win the league so, especially if they didn’t feel relegation threatened themselves, they were happy to let Leicester win points from them. The classic one was Swansea who literally gifted Leicester 2 goals early in the game and then made little to no effort to try and get anything from the game.

Conversely those same teams bust a gut against us. Two weeks before they played us at home WBA were at Arsenal where they acted like their summer vacation had already begun. Fast forward 2 weeks and before the game their manager, Pulis, stated that he wanted Leicester to win the league. Subsequently WBA played that night like they needed the points to avoid relegation and we only drew 1-1.

They saw Leicester as a club like them who were sticking it to the big boys so they were happy to help them to the title if they could.
In fact everyone got on the bandwagon of wanting Leicester to win the title. I believe match officials were subconsciously affected. The last minute penalty awarded against WHU which enabled Leicester to get a draw was extremely soft IMHO.
Then there was the media. Sky’s decision to schedule us to play 4 Monday games in a row with only 7-8 games of the season to go was a blatant attempt by them to tip the title race in Leicester’s favour.
I’m not going to say Leicester didn’t deserve to win the title- fair dos to them they held their nerve while we didn’t- but there were many other actors in the drama doing their best to help them.
There’s some truth in the second half of your comment - sky definitely helped them with the fixtures and they got some soft calls - but the first half is straight up conspiracy nonsense that belongs on RAWK. Teams were misplaying them all season - my Norwich supporting mate still moans about how they set up to play them and that was on September or October! The idea that teams were chucking games en masse (it’s only their own careers) is just ludicrous
 
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spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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  • that boils my piss give us our goal you ##nts. we should hire private detectives to dig up the bung. That game was Fixed. all day fixed. communication error my sweaty balls.
    Literally they do whatever they want. the sanctimony weve heard all week after a soft red and a false red and a non pen and a non goal and a trip to the crooked country that buys everything and owns our biggest competitior just 2 days earlier and now the same laws can be ignored to get it right a week later
    Theyve got to be called up for not correcting the "mistake". "we cant do anything" aimed at the fucking replay kid because everyone else knew
  • No doubt the anti LFC c***s in the media and twattersphere will say that the Burnley- Chelsea stoppage was a result of our complaint so what are we whingeing about
  • That's not really working though, when they're still riding the "couldn't stop the match because of var protocol and the laws"-train for our case. Add to that, that I have not seen any news that IFAB have changed the var protocol or the laws of the game after our match and certainly neither the league nor the fa nor pgmol could implement such a change. We should be asking for that game to be replayed or voided because of illegal usage of var...
  • Has club drawn a line in the sand or still reviewing their options?
  • Find it odd - other supporters think we should "let it go" now. A week is a long time it seems

  • Not sure if we are biding our time and looking at what our realistic options are or are we waiting for Webb to do his promotional piece on TV. Hopefully it's one of the two and we aren't going to let it slide.
  • I think the silence means that there is maybe contemplation on what legal avenues are available and what financial recourse there may be should we, for instance, miss out on something significant by a point or three. For instance, we all know CL qualification is highly lucrative, and missing out on that revenue will impact us on many levels - from transfer budgets to sponsorship dollars. This will be quantified and I believe it will then be communicated to the PGMOL, and then left for them to decide how they think to best proceed. They might then revise their hard stance on the result and the idea of a replay. Or the club may lay bait, and only use it if and when we do miss out on something lucrative. We are still able to win the league or qualify for CL from here, in fact we are in a very good position to do just that.
    It would be even more damning for the PGMOL I think, if Spurs are the ones to qualify at our expense.
    Think there’s just lots of lawyering happening, but behind the scenes within minimum disruption to our team
  • Sick of the game and the c***s ruining it - include the players and their gamesmanship in that as well as the corrupt officials

  • but we don't have the audio, so how do we know what was communicated?
    has PGMOL even been asked to release it?
  • Kovacic just done a red card challenge, then followed with another almost the same, no red.
    If you genuinely still think nothing is going on you are naive as fuck.
    I’m past caring now, absolutely no point as nothing will get done due to the full on tribalism in the game
  • I honestly don’t think it’s personal in some respects, the refs have been getting first class trips to Abu Dhabi and been given 20k for one single match, so if you are not as thick as a rock you can see that is far beyond what would be deemed as not only suspicious but so so wrong in terms of regulations. I mean people working for large stores aren’t allowed to accept as much as a fucking pen from suppliers, yet somehow the PL thinks a 20k one off game is nothing to worry about.
    What my point is, is that Abu Dhabi owning city have their interest in city and anyone else that gets in their way is just collateral damage.
    The game is getting ruined and if you can’t see that or even entertain the possibility with these trips to Abu Dhabi then you really are pretty daft
  • PGMOL? 3 refs get an all expenses paid, likely First Class on a certain 787-9, and £20k payment and they're fucking fine with it
    :butt

  • Anyone posed this yet? A completely different narrative here.
    It's OK to hang the ref out to dry and talk about "ruining the game" when it's not Liverpool. Shouldn't they just get over it?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67046430
  • Why are we still talking about this? It's Monday now, surely we should have moved on and just accepted it?
  • We can only move on when Gary Neville says we can move on.

The fans of other clubs must agree they are the worst fanbase, surely?
 

fletch82

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Aug 23, 2015
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Means nothing though, time we’ve seen teams with the possession lose, and at what did the data look like 11vs11.
It's not just possession though is it ?
10 men 9 men whatever we had double the attempts at goal double on target etc and I didn't even look at the xg, xag,x o cist or any other x's I may have forgotten existed 🤔
 

chas vs dave

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Jul 17, 2008
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If we want to talk about corruption, then perhaps we should mention the time we weren't given an extra hour to draft in squad players, because 6 of our first team had norovirus. Richard Scudamore refused us to have extra time, as it would affect the "integrity" of the final game of the season.

We were forced to play with ill players.

He made this decision whilst being at Arsenals hospitality section to celebrate the last game at Highbury.

We moved on quicker than Liverpool did.
 
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