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Rocksuperstar

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At least some of them are self aware over there, but generally, the Woolwich fans are like whack-a-mole on the internet. Honestly, they pop up eeeeeverywhere. You run a poll on mumsnet about the best brand of formula, the top answer will be "Woolwich" because they can't pass up an opportunity to rally together and vote on something completely pointless, then brag about it to people who had no idea it was a thing and don't care even now that they do
 

Thenewcat

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Obviously I shouldn’t do this as it’s just giving something ludicrous oxygen, but I’ve got two questions for these cretins.

1). It appears zero weight is given to home vs away. I’m sure that’s a complete coincidence given arsenal have played 5:3 home/away and we are the reverse

2). One position in the table for one game is 0.125. So the entire gap between arsenal and spurs is 13 places in the league for one game, so us playing a team in 20th (away) while they play 7th (home). Can anyone explain how this is worth 3.25 points as an adjustment?
 

Armchair

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Obviously I shouldn’t do this as it’s just giving something ludicrous oxygen, but I’ve got two questions for these cretins.

1). It appears zero weight is given to home vs away. I’m sure that’s a complete coincidence given arsenal have played 5:3 home/away and we are the reverse

2). One position in the table for one game is 0.125. So the entire gap between arsenal and spurs is 13 places in the league for one game, so us playing a team in 20th (away) while they play 7th (home). Can anyone explain how this is worth 3.25 points as an adjustment?
No. No we can't.
 

Jgplk1

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Mar 16, 2005
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Arsenal Mania
  • I find it odd how Sp**s are almost always title contenders every start of the season even during Wenger's era when they have an awful line up.
    Maybe cause most of their ex-players can only become pundits
    When you have more pundits then trophies.
  • Tottenham fans being asked what they would choose between Spurs being relegated or Arsenal winning the UCL
  • God, they're actually such losers, aren't they? 🤔
  • There belief in a title challenge stems from ours last season. I just dont see it though.
    They are also doing this wierd thing again where they start talking up Kulusevski and suggesting he is better than Saka. They did in in 21-22, stopped in 22-23 for obvious reasons. Now even though Saka has scored 4 goals in 7 games playing with a niggling injury, they are back to openly suggesting Kulusevski is better than Saka.
    Maddison over Ødegaard. Bissouma over Rice. Romero over Saliba. Porro over White. They are obsessed with assuming their players come out on top in these head to heads.
    One dickhead even tried a Joshnson v Martinelli debate
  • Ha, that’s actually insane.
    Trophies are already 23-2 in our favour in the Premier League era. If we won the UCL it wouldn’t really change a thing in terms of the relative status of the two clubs but they’d be willing to take themselves out of the PL and Europe to save it from happening. Good grief.
    That ‘Sp**s Fan Centre’ video really was accurate, wasn’t it?
  • Title talk is premature, but to be fair to them we were having the same discussions last season this time. It could happen of course, but I think its a bit unrealistic at this stage of their project IMO.
    I will say that a top 4/5 position is on the cards though, but it wont be easy. The football incisiveness and freshness of their style is there for them to exploit against the opposition. The fitness is the real factor because aggressive football needs key positions to have high quality, and those areas are particularly thin for them.
    Definitely one of the best outside the top 3 right now, along with Newcastle, Villa and Brighton. I do expect United and Chelsea to join that party as well. (SA Gunner)
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    We were talking up our title chances last season because we looked really impressive doing it, we were tearing through teams. Sp**s, on the other hand, struggled against Sheffield United, actually looked like losing. Luton should of atleast got a point, they created enough chances. We handed them a draw in the NLD, and the officials robbed Liverpool against them! Even when Pool went down to 10 men they were still controlling the game. The only game they've looked good in is Burnley.
    They're also fortunate they've got one game a week to focus on because their squad depth is awful.
  • Could not agree more. As we are just into the season I am not sure why pundits don't look at the small number of fixtures and actually keep in mind how the results came about. I can understand if we are talking at the end of the season, but right now?
    Anyhow, let them celebrate and be happy. They have had a couple of **** years and what they had to celebrate was us being worse than them. The life of a Tottenham supporter... 😭
  • Romero is the most annoying one for me. Guy is a certified bozo but Sp*rs fans claim he's world class and if you challenge them on it they pull out the Messi card (one more reason to dislike that pillock). "Messi said he's the best CB ever and who are you to argue with him?" Trying to pretend like Messi isn't incredibly biased when saying that. Even Ange pulled that BS argument.
  • we were blowing good teams away, not struggling against Luton, 10 man Sheffield and 9 man Liverpool. They're not even remotely similar starts to the season in terms of actual performances, it's just that the Spuds are graded on a curve because of how pathetic they are historically.
  • Keep seeing them trying to compare him to Saliba, the cheeky bastards are now trying to compare Van De Ven to Gabriel, all because he played well and scored a goal against Luton - potentialy the worst side in PL history.
    They bring up this amazing defensive partnership they're building, yet Luton were creating loads of chances against them and 10 man Liverpool were cutting through them with ease. If we weren't so wasteful infront of goal, we could of had 3 past them at half time in the NLD.
  • They won't challenge for the league, but they could get Champions League qualification this year.
    Though with the league expectations low for them in pre season, I would have put everything into trying to end their 15 year trophy drought this season...no Europe too, they should have made the cups the focus this year.
    It's why I am unconvinced by Ange right now, that League Cup defeat was very poor
  • I can see city scoring 3 or 4 against them the way they play. Even Man Utd should have done so. 🍿
    More. It will be a heavy defeat. They have no Saliba to slow Haaland down. They have no Gabriel to deal with Alvarez. It will be very, very lopsided
 
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Rocksuperstar

Isn't this fun? Isn't fun the best thing to have?
Jun 6, 2005
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Arsenal Mania

  • When you have more pundits then trophies.
  • Tottenham fans being asked what they would choose between Spurs being relegated or Arsenal winning the UCL
  • God, they're actually such losers, aren't they? 🤔
  • There belief in a title challenge stems from ours last season. I just dont see it though.
    They are also doing this wierd thing again where they start talking up Kulusevski and suggesting he is better than Saka. They did in in 21-22, stopped in 22-23 for obvious reasons. Now even though Saka has scored 4 goals in 7 games playing with a niggling injury, they are back to openly suggesting Kulusevski is better than Saka.
    Maddison over Ødegaard. Bissouma over Rice. Romero over Saliba. Porro over White. They are obsessed with assuming their players come out on top in these head to heads.
    One dickhead even tried a Joshnson v Martinelli debate
  • Ha, that’s actually insane.
    Trophies are already 23-2 in our favour in the Premier League era. If we won the UCL it wouldn’t really change a thing in terms of the relative status of the two clubs but they’d be willing to take themselves out of the PL and Europe to save it from happening. Good grief.
    That ‘Sp**s Fan Centre’ video really was accurate, wasn’t it?
  • Title talk is premature, but to be fair to them we were having the same discussions last season this time. It could happen of course, but I think its a bit unrealistic at this stage of their project IMO.
    I will say that a top 4/5 position is on the cards though, but it wont be easy. The football incisiveness and freshness of their style is there for them to exploit against the opposition. The fitness is the real factor because aggressive football needs key positions to have high quality, and those areas are particularly thin for them.
    Definitely one of the best outside the top 3 right now, along with Newcastle, Villa and Brighton. I do expect United and Chelsea to join that party as well. (SA Gunner)

  • We were talking up our title chances last season because we looked really impressive doing it, we were tearing through teams. Sp**s, on the other hand, struggled against Sheffield United, actually looked like losing. Luton should of atleast got a point, they created enough chances. We handed them a draw in the NLD, and the officials robbed Liverpool against them! Even when Pool went down to 10 men they were still controlling the game. The only game they've looked good in is Burnley.
    They're also fortunate they've got one game a week to focus on because their squad depth is awful.
  • Could not agree more. As we are just into the season I am not sure why pundits don't look at the small number of fixtures and actually keep in mind how the results came about. I can understand if we are talking at the end of the season, but right now?
    Anyhow, let them celebrate and be happy. They have had a couple of **** years and what they had to celebrate was us being worse than them. The life of a Tottenham supporter... 😭
  • Romero is the most annoying one for me. Guy is a certified bozo but Sp*rs fans claim he's world class and if you challenge them on it they pull out the Messi card (one more reason to dislike that pillock). "Messi said he's the best CB ever and who are you to argue with him?" Trying to pretend like Messi isn't incredibly biased when saying that. Even Ange pulled that BS argument.
  • we were blowing good teams away, not struggling against Luton, 10 man Sheffield and 9 man Liverpool. They're not even remotely similar starts to the season in terms of actual performances, it's just that the Spuds are graded on a curve because of how pathetic they are historically.
  • Keep seeing them trying to compare him to Saliba, the cheeky bastards are now trying to compare Van De Ven to Gabriel, all because he played well and scored a goal against Luton - potentialy the worst side in PL history.
    They bring up this amazing defensive partnership they're building, yet Luton were creating loads of chances against them and 10 man Liverpool were cutting through them with ease. If we weren't so wasteful infront of goal, we could of had 3 past them at half time in the NLD.
  • They won't challenge for the league, but they could get Champions League qualification this year.
    Though with the league expectations low for them in pre season, I would have put everything into trying to end their 15 year trophy drought this season...no Europe too, they should have made the cups the focus this year.
    It's why I am unconvinced by Ange right now, that League Cup defeat was very poor
Something something rent free... I honestly don't even have the Woolwich cross my mind until the derby comes around.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Arsenal Mania

  • When you have more pundits then trophies.
  • Tottenham fans being asked what they would choose between Spurs being relegated or Arsenal winning the UCL
  • God, they're actually such losers, aren't they? 🤔
  • There belief in a title challenge stems from ours last season. I just dont see it though.
    They are also doing this wierd thing again where they start talking up Kulusevski and suggesting he is better than Saka. They did in in 21-22, stopped in 22-23 for obvious reasons. Now even though Saka has scored 4 goals in 7 games playing with a niggling injury, they are back to openly suggesting Kulusevski is better than Saka.
    Maddison over Ødegaard. Bissouma over Rice. Romero over Saliba. Porro over White. They are obsessed with assuming their players come out on top in these head to heads.
    One dickhead even tried a Joshnson v Martinelli debate
  • Ha, that’s actually insane.
    Trophies are already 23-2 in our favour in the Premier League era. If we won the UCL it wouldn’t really change a thing in terms of the relative status of the two clubs but they’d be willing to take themselves out of the PL and Europe to save it from happening. Good grief.
    That ‘Sp**s Fan Centre’ video really was accurate, wasn’t it?
  • Title talk is premature, but to be fair to them we were having the same discussions last season this time. It could happen of course, but I think its a bit unrealistic at this stage of their project IMO.
    I will say that a top 4/5 position is on the cards though, but it wont be easy. The football incisiveness and freshness of their style is there for them to exploit against the opposition. The fitness is the real factor because aggressive football needs key positions to have high quality, and those areas are particularly thin for them.
    Definitely one of the best outside the top 3 right now, along with Newcastle, Villa and Brighton. I do expect United and Chelsea to join that party as well. (SA Gunner)

  • We were talking up our title chances last season because we looked really impressive doing it, we were tearing through teams. Sp**s, on the other hand, struggled against Sheffield United, actually looked like losing. Luton should of atleast got a point, they created enough chances. We handed them a draw in the NLD, and the officials robbed Liverpool against them! Even when Pool went down to 10 men they were still controlling the game. The only game they've looked good in is Burnley.
    They're also fortunate they've got one game a week to focus on because their squad depth is awful.
  • Could not agree more. As we are just into the season I am not sure why pundits don't look at the small number of fixtures and actually keep in mind how the results came about. I can understand if we are talking at the end of the season, but right now?
    Anyhow, let them celebrate and be happy. They have had a couple of **** years and what they had to celebrate was us being worse than them. The life of a Tottenham supporter... 😭
  • Romero is the most annoying one for me. Guy is a certified bozo but Sp*rs fans claim he's world class and if you challenge them on it they pull out the Messi card (one more reason to dislike that pillock). "Messi said he's the best CB ever and who are you to argue with him?" Trying to pretend like Messi isn't incredibly biased when saying that. Even Ange pulled that BS argument.
  • we were blowing good teams away, not struggling against Luton, 10 man Sheffield and 9 man Liverpool. They're not even remotely similar starts to the season in terms of actual performances, it's just that the Spuds are graded on a curve because of how pathetic they are historically.
  • Keep seeing them trying to compare him to Saliba, the cheeky bastards are now trying to compare Van De Ven to Gabriel, all because he played well and scored a goal against Luton - potentialy the worst side in PL history.
    They bring up this amazing defensive partnership they're building, yet Luton were creating loads of chances against them and 10 man Liverpool were cutting through them with ease. If we weren't so wasteful infront of goal, we could of had 3 past them at half time in the NLD.
  • They won't challenge for the league, but they could get Champions League qualification this year.
    Though with the league expectations low for them in pre season, I would have put everything into trying to end their 15 year trophy drought this season...no Europe too, they should have made the cups the focus this year.
    It's why I am unconvinced by Ange right now, that League Cup defeat was very poor


  • Romero is the most annoying one for me. Guy is a certified bozo but Sp*rs fans claim he's world class and if you challenge them on it they pull out the Messi card (one more reason to dislike that pillock). "Messi said he's the best CB ever and who are you to argue with him?" Trying to pretend like Messi isn't incredibly biased when saying that. Even Ange pulled that BS argument.
How can you dislike Messi?
 

philll

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Aug 31, 2012
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Given the amount of time they're dedicating to talking about us, they believe a lot more in our "title challenge" than we do...
 

Frozen_Waffles

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Jan 26, 2005
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Given the amount of time they're dedicating to talking about us, they believe a lot more in our "title challenge" than we do...
Well this is it, I don't think I've read a single post on here (joking apart) suggesting we'd be in a title race this season.

I can't see it, challenging for top 4 - yes. Anything higher than 4th would be seen as an incredible season.

Unless City get deducted points, I can't see anyone else challenging. As a dark horse, maybe Liverpool at a stretch.

We have a really tough set of games coming up and then we lose Bissouma and Sarr to African nations, also if we lose just one CB we're in the shit.

I'm actually hoping we go all out, first team all the way in the FA cup.
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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I want us to start winning trophies. Not for the thrill and pride of winning anymore - that's baby talk. I wish real torment to be visited upon these cretins.

Spite fuels this desire of mine and I'm not at all ashamed of that fact.
 

BehindEnemyLines

Twisting a Melon with the Rev. Black Grape
Apr 13, 2006
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You would have thought they'd be more concerned about where their goals are going to come from - they can't live off own goals, jammie deflections and penalties forever!

I'm also confused about where all this title challenge talk has come from? Every Spurs fan I know is just happy to have started well and wait and see how the season progresses - not heard anyone seriously talk about challenging at this point! I wonder whether they're getting a bit itchy because the Talk Sport pundits keep mentioning it?
 
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