What our opponents' fans are saying

[THFCSPURS19]

 

[riggi]

Biggest **** going. Seen another of his videos. Deserves a slap.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Is that James May?

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Is that James May?

Don't you mean James Gay oh no how about Lames Bay oh no I mean Sames Way actually it's Cames Day

What a two bob laggin prize melt ****

 

[Pimp_Spur]

Somebody get that **** some teeth please

 

[Buggsy61]

Biggest **** going. Seen another of his videos. Deserves a slap.

Jesus!!. Only one good thing about this video is that its from the neck up as I swear he is jerking off into the sink whilst filming it!.
Is he for real as he looks like a Harry Enfield creation.

 

[Syn_13]

I can't help but think this is a Harry Enfield sketch.

 

[goughie1966]

From Rawk:

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3542 on: Yesterday at 12:12:54 AM »

BILD reporting that Tottenham are frontrunners to sign Gotze. Would be an absolute meltdown if he goes there.

BILD are reliable when it comes to Bayern if I recall...

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3543 on: Yesterday at 12:23:40 AM »

I know it'll be a meltdown regardless of anything I say, if it does happen, but Klopp's plan doesn't rely on him coming here and we've missed out on a lot of good players and still been fine. Klopp will know what to do with or without Gotze.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3544 on: Yesterday at 12:40:39 AM »

BILD are reliable when it comes to Bayern if I recall...
Thought they had a wage structure? Not sure I could see them pay someone £175k a week.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3546 on: Yesterday at 05:01:27 AM »

Not really, just a sensational tabloid like Mail. The only one u can say reliable is Kicker .

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3547 on: Yesterday at 08:22:35 AM »

Gotze can fuck off. The c*nt can't even make up his mind and has been shit at the euros.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3548 on: Yesterday at 10:47:01 AM »

Are you a grown man?

"He's been shit at the Euros". Yes, let's ignore all of his previous years at club level and judge him on a handful of games at the Euros

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3549 on: Yesterday at 10:54:28 AM »

Gotze hasn't become shit overnight. He is clearly lacking in confidence and match sharpness. It can't of helped being played out of position at the Euro's either.

The hope was had he joined us, Klopp would be able to help him find the sort of form he had under Jurgen in his time at Dortmund. The type of form that made him one of the most talked about, most sort after talents in world football.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3550 on: Yesterday at 12:16:05 PM »

We have already signed a better fit for our team in Mane, and I would't mind Tottenham blowing up their wage structure for Gotze.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3552 on: Yesterday at 12:43:07 PM »

Compared to the last three seasons, his performances for Germany are not that bad. I can't see why the Spurs would want him, they are stocked with attacking midfielders that have found a good balance between them. Even if they are indeed looking for one to add, why not try for a better option like Draxler or Sane?

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3553 on: Yesterday at 12:48:25 PM »

Spurs have CL this season so need to add a quality player or two. Draxler probably isn't available except for silly money (and to top clubs) but Götze is available at a reasonable fee most likely.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3554 on: Yesterday at 01:01:13 PM »

And they need to break their wage structure and offer Gotze nearly double as Kane which will never happen
Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3555 on: Yesterday at 01:28:31 PM »

They'll need to double Kane's contract soon enough else he may also fuck off from there. Nobody seems to want him right now, but another year of similar figures and teams will offer him 200-250k a week.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3556 on: Yesterday at 01:32:19 PM »

A deal in principle has now been agreed, with Kane poised to earn almost £100,000 a week after committing himself to the club until 2021.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/05/harry-kane-tottenham-new-contract

He has just agreed a new contract worth £100k/week

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3560 on: Today at 01:45:41 AM »

Christ that's bizarrely low for him - he must really want to be at Spurs

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3588 on: Today at 01:18:58 PM »

Mario Götze's dad, Jürgen, met Tottenham-representatives twice during the Euros. (According to newspaper #Bild)

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3589 on: Today at 01:21:15 PM »

Great signing for them if they can pull it off. Will elevate them to the next level.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3590 on: Today at 01:24:03 PM »

I hope Spurs waste some money on Gotze, can't see him getting back his form.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3591 on: Today at 01:26:33 PM »

Quote from: anoopvk on Today at 01:21:15 PM
Great signing for them if they can pull it off. Will elevate them to the next level.

Based on what exactly? He's been regressing for 3 years.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3592 on: Today at 01:29:39 PM »

Interesting where he fits into the Eriksen, Alli & Lamela trio... Take out Lamela & you lose quite a bit of pace but the other two seem very established in the 11.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3593 on: Today at 01:34:40 PM »

I don't get it either. Either one of them are secretly moving on or he's swapping the Bayern bench for the Spurs bench.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3598 on: Today at 01:53:28 PM »

Quote from: PeterTheRed on Today at 01:26:33 PM
Based on what exactly? He's been regressing for 3 years.

He scored more goals in the last 3 season at bayern compare to last 3 seasons at dortmund...

He is '1 in 3 ' type of player... If he can stay fit, he will be a good signing for any team

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3599 on: Today at 01:55:43 PM »

They will have enough games that they can readily fit another player into the mix without one being inherently on the bench.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3601 on: Today at 02:02:22 PM »

Quote from: ranimi on Today at 01:53:28 PM

On the other hand, I think it's pretty telling that Bayern didn't even flirt with the idea of keeping him.

Don't get me wrong, I wanted him a month ago but if Klopp is happy with Mane, so am I.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3603 on: Today at 02:14:44 PM »

To be honest, Klopp being our manager was the only reason why I reluctantly accepted the idea of Gotze to Liverpool. In any other circumstances, I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole at those wages.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3605 on: Today at 02:49:39 PM »

Quote from: PeterTheRed on Today at 02:10:37 PM
The fee might be decent, but his wage demands are £170,000 per week. How is that a decent business for a player who's been struggling for 3 years?

Struggled? He has 36 goals and 24 assists in those 3 seasons and one of those seasons he was injured for half of it so it's basically 2 and a half seasons. That's still some going for somebody who has to compete with some top class players.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3642 on: Today at 03:42:51 PM »

Mate, don't torture yourself over Gotze. There is a good reason why Bayern Munich want to get rid of him, and anyone who follows the Bundesliga regularly knows that reason. He is a player who has peaked early, and he's been regressing since. Remember a certain fella called Michael Owen?

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3606 on: Today at 02:51:41 PM »

Eriksen, Alli & Lamela are all mediocre players compared to Götze. I can't see any of them in Bayern or Germany they are just good PL-players nothing more. Sure Götze needs to find his form but a change of scenery and going to a much smaller club like Spurs would be perfect for him. Hope they won't get him.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3643 on: Today at 03:48:09 PM »

He has become a bit chubby too. Can not compare him with Michael Owen though, injuries ruined him or else he was world class. Did Gotze have any similar injury issues too?

But Pochettino factor is a bit dangerous, he has improved crap players like Rose, Walker, Lamela & Dembele (to a certain extent) look pretty good. Imagine he can revive Gotze too. I would prefer us to sign him, if their is still a possibility.

Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3647 on: Today at 04:01:30 PM »

For under £20m it's well well worth the risk.
Re: General Premier League Transfer Thread (No Liverpool)
« Reply #3648 on: Today at 04:03:08 PM »

And £10m+ a year in wages.

Is a lot of money.


The thread then dissolves into a discussion of his weekly wage

 

[Shadydan]

That's the RAWK we all know and love.

 

[Yid_Summers]

Bunch of knuckle dragging morons.

 

[Sweech]

That's the RAWK we all know and love.

I love reading when they're linked to him they say getting him would guarantee the title, as soon as we're linked he's fat and they should steer clear.

 

[strummer]

This sums up our bin dipping deluded "friends" nicely

 

[Hotspur33]

RAWK basically mirroring SC. Some fans rate him, others don't.
He is a big name, would be cool to get him, but I'll live if nothing comes of it.

 

[double0]

RAWK basically mirroring SC. Some fans rate him, others don't.
He is a big name, would be cool to get him, but I'll live if nothing comes of it.

What player are you talking about?

 

[BaFa94]

This sums up our bin dipping deluded "friends" nicely

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Please tell me that's a parody account.

 

[Bobbins]

This is why there should be tests for people to be allowed access to the Internet.

 

[Amo]

One or two of those are pretty clever. Most is just cringeworthy though.

And I would have thought he'd use "Harry Cane", the most obvious one.

 

[The Swellhead Spur]

Hilarious read.

http://theeaglesbeak.com/2016/07/12/can-palace-players-provide-england-spurs/

Though both teams are from London, derby matches against Tottenham Hotspur do not offer much in the way of local bragging rights WRITES TAMHAS WOODS.

However, a new type of argument could easily erupt between both sets of fans in the coming season, as the qualifiers for the 2018 World Cup get underway, specifically the argument as to whether or not Palace players would add more to the England squad than Spurs players in the same positions.

For England, the road to recovery from a world of hurt has yet to truly begin. Many would argue that the Three Lions shameful elimination to Iceland at Euro 2016 was the complete embodiment of everything rotten within the current English game, and in the glaring, merciless eye of the media, Tottenham carry a significant degree of responsibility.



The successful Palace squad that attained promotion to the Premier League. For the latest Crystal Palace odds, visit Matchbook.

While no English player from Crystal Palace was called up, five Englishmen from Tottenham were selected to represent the side at Euro 2016, all of whom under-performed during the finals against opposing teams that were seen as far from difficult to negotiate.

By contrast, the Welsh delegation of Eagles shocked the world, with a series of gutsy performances contributing much to the Dragons’ gallant run to the semi finals.

The common denominator to the respective successes of Iceland and Wales has been graft and determination over flair and hype. Over the past year, albeit at club level, such qualities have also seen relegation favourites Leicester City win the Premier League, and Palace themselves come within ten minutes of a first major trophy for the club.

There can be no denying that Tottenham players were exemplary en-route to an eventual finish of third, but it was an achievement that Palace could easily have emulated, had the Eagles’ pre-Christmas league form continued into 2016. So could the English Palace players, if they replaced Spurs players in the same positions for England, really do a better job on the international stage?

As a new acquisition for Palace, former Tottenham winger Andros Townsend is not included in the following analysis, and all comparisons have been conducted on an average per game basis, revealing some surprising results.

RIGHT BACK: Kyle Walker versus Joel Ward

• Forward passes – JW
• Completion rate – KW
• Tackles won – KW
• Aerial duels won – JW
• Blocks – JW

What use is an abundance of pace with no end product? Tottenham’s jet-heeled full-back was deemed by several ‘experts’ to be the strongest England player in the group stage. Wales surprised all by providing the sternest physical challenge, and Walker struggled badly, particularly against Spurs teammate Ben Davies in a poor first half for England.

The nature of the Premier League has changed to favour a greater degree of roaming from the full-back position, which should favour a player with pace, but it is a method that can quickly become farce without that player also possessing the ability to challenge effectively. In 2015/16, Joel Ward played three league games fewer than Walker, but still boasts a superior per-game rate of blocks and successful aerial challenges.

Ward’s pass completion rate from last season compares unfavourably with Walker, but he has made a greater number of forward passes, thereby establishing himself as the more balanced player when it comes to transitioning between defence and attack. At present, England lack an all-rounder in the full-back role, boasting great pace on both flanks, but little obvious substance.

TOTTENHAM 0 – 1 CRYSTAL PALACE

CENTRE BACK: Eric Dier versus Scott Dann

• Blocks – SD
• Completion Rate – ED
• Tackles won – ED
• Aerial duels won – SD
• Average pass length – SD

At centre back and defensive midfield, the priority shifts drastically from moving the ball forward, to simply ensuring that the ball is as far away from the penalty area as humanly possible. Although much can be owed to the different playing styles adopted by the players’ respective managers, the natural instinct as a defender, or defensive midfielder, to protect the goal must come before finesse.

It is in this department that Scott Dann wins hands down, after an impressive season which even saw a few appearances on the score sheet, further strengthening his case for inclusion in the England squad as a danger man from set pieces. Not only did he score more goals per game than the much further advanced Eric Dier, but also made a far greater number of blocks and successful headers, the very essence of a centre back or a defensive midfielder.

TOTTENHAM 0 – 2 CRYSTAL PALACE

CENTRE MIDFIELD: Dele Alli versus Jason Puncheon

• Completion rate – JP
• Forward passes – JP
• Tackles won – DA
• Goals per game – DA
• Interceptions – DA

As one of the breakout stars in 2015/16, Delle Alli’s club statistics are superlative, and it is often forgotten that the twenty year old is still very much in the process of learning an exceptionally demanding trade at international level. Though Alli badly underperformed at Euro 2016, there is enough evidence to suggest that a more ‘in-touch’ England manager could better play to his strengths.

Perhaps most incensed of all at Alli’s continued presence will be Palace fans who consider Jason Puncheon as a more experienced option for the new England manager to consider. Indeed, it is Puncheon who boasts a superior rate of successful forward passes, which would enable England to play more directly rather than attempt to emulate the a ‘tiki-taka’ style which has lost credence in recent years.

However, Delle Alli’s future in the England squad is secure, with 2015/16 club statistics revealing him as the better goalscorer and the better interceptor,thereby rendering him the better all-round option in midfield.

TOTTENHAM 1 – 2 CRYSTAL PALACE

STRIKER: Harry Kane versus Connor Wickham

• Goals per game – HK
• Goals from set pieces – HK
• Assists – CW
• Shot accuracy – HK
• Aerial duels won – CW

An entire country expostulated at Harry Kane’s deployment in a hugely isolated attacking role, as England struggled to break the rearguards of Russia and Slovakia, doing so unsuccessfully on the latter occasion.

Connor Wickham only played twenty-one league games last season, and ultimately did nothing to bolster his already dwindling credentials for international duty. In terms of goals per game, it is another ‘no contest’, with Kane set to be England’s go-to striker, along with Liverpool’s Daniel Sturridge, for the foreseeable future.

TOTTENHAM 2 – 2 CRYSTAL PALACE

MANAGER: Mouricio Pochettino versus Alan Pardew

With no more players to compare, Roy Hodgson’s hypothetical replacement is the deciding factor in this conundrum. Although neither man has been linked with sincerity to the England job as yet, bookmakers consider them at least worthy of inclusion, even if they are both presently rank outsiders.

Pochettino’s achievements with a Tottenham side that was ailing and disillusioned under Tim Sherwood just two years ago are extremely impressive, and the Argentine mastermind will be a front runner if he can build further on the startling progress he oversaw at Tottenham in 2015/16. However, England requires an experienced, wise head with a consistently good track record in the top flight.

Enter Pardew for the decisive blow.

Both managers can take pride in having stabilised a number of clubs adapting to the top flight with top half finishes. For Pardew, that list includes West Ham United (9th in 2005/06) and Newcastle United (5th in 2011/12) as well as Palace’s class of 2014/15, which was only the Eagles’ second top flight season in the current run.

If England are to start from scratch, with a back-to-basics approach, then stability and unity in the dressing room is essential. Part of achieving such stability will rely much on the dressing room egos being managed properly, and with his greater experience of the English scene, Pardew is the obvious choice of the two.

FINAL SCORE: TOTTENHAM 2-3 CRYSTAL PALACE

In conclusion, there is nothing between the sides in terms of what their English players could add to the international side, but combining the best qualities of players from both clubs would provide an intriguing scenario and a good platform for progress.

Finding the right man to do this successfully, however, will be an exceptionally difficult task, and a disillusioned country can do little more than pray that the Football Association makes the right call.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Dafugg was that shit?

 

[jurgen]

Jesus Christ...