What our opponents' fans are saying

[squirrel]

It's still a misconception to think that "width" or any "width" is the key to breaking down any team that sits 10 deep. It's always going to be difficult to break down those teams. It's why Pulis and his like have a job, every team in the league has problems with teams like that.

agree 100% teams defending in numbers is hard to break down, a lot of times a packed defence requires a worldy,
a deflection or a mistake to break the deadlock, then the gameplan falls apart, width seems to be the pundits go to if
the game is a stalemate.

 

[Sweech]

Bingo.

Just because you add width to your game, and station a player into wide areas, doesn't mean they have to then automatically receive the ball. Just going out there opens up space in the centre of the park because its one less player standing on someone else's toes, and if it takes away an opposition player then its an extra bonus.

Staying wide also often allows you a better view of the game, and allows a player to pick and time their run to the opportune moment. Too often today everyone met in the centre wanting ball to feet and you have then ran out of options.

Henry was on Monday Night Football before Xmas I recall and was talking about these aspects when they were asking him about Guardiola and showed some really good examples of how you opened space with the positions he was expected to take up and not getting narrow too early.
Edit: Here is the video:



And these aren't concepts reserved for the top tier of football managers and players that are beyond the 99%, today you had Hoddle on commentary saying exactly the same, how a Spurs player had to be prepared to 'sacrifice' himself, pull wider and so create an option/space.



(Yes people I know its the wrong thread for this, but fuck it).

That segment is actually what made me wonder how successful Guardiola is going to be in the league.

His tactics are extremely similar to the system LVG is currently taking a lot of flack for at Man U right now. Centered around positional discipline and possession, but gets called boring.

Guardiola is going to need the same offensive game breakers he's enjoyed throughout his career so far if he hopes to be a success here.

 

[mpickard2087]

That segment is actually what made me wonder how successful Guardiola is going to be in the league.

His tactics are extremely similar to the system LVG is currently taking a lot of flack for at Man U right now. Center we around positional discipline and possession, but gets called boring.

Guardiola is going to need the same offensive game breakers he's enjoyed throughout his career so far if he hopes to be a success here.

I agree I think its going to be interesting how Guardiola adjusts over here and he may run in to problems. He's going to ask a lot from the players tactically, positionally and drill it in to them. I think it was Henry again who said something like it gave him headaches and he went to bed at night dreaming of where he was supposed to be at certain times.

The culture over here I think is going to be less inclined to be drilled tactically and have disciplined roles, and I think the media will give him very little leeway. The first defeat and I'm sure we'll get grumblings of boring football, overly controlling, no freedom etc. etc.

 

[Roynie]

Bingo.

Just because you add width to your game, and station a player into wide areas, doesn't mean they have to then automatically receive the ball. Just going out there opens up space in the centre of the park because its one less player standing on someone else's toes, and if it takes away an opposition player then its an extra bonus.

Staying wide also often allows you a better view of the game, and allows a player to pick and time their run to the opportune moment. Too often today everyone met in the centre wanting ball to feet and you have then ran out of options.

Henry was on Monday Night Football before Xmas I recall and was talking about these aspects when they were asking him about Guardiola and showed some really good examples of how you opened space with the positions he was expected to take up and not getting narrow too early.
Edit: Here is the video:



And these aren't concepts reserved for the top tier of football managers and players that are beyond the 99%, today you had Hoddle on commentary saying exactly the same, how a Spurs player had to be prepared to 'sacrifice' himself, pull wider and so create an option/space.



(Yes people I know its the wrong thread for this, but fuck it).

Maybe not the place for that, but very interesting nonetheless. I fully agree with the idea that you shouldn't move toward a player that is going to pass to you, let him hit the fcuking pass, none of this slow rolling of the ball, it gives your opponent too much time to move his position to cover.

 

[Lilbaz]

Agree. A 14" dick is such a burden.
I'm sure you could have an 11" dong if you go to the right bar

Don't want to brag. But anywhere you go in the world you will never be more than 5ft away from my cock.

 

[Hoops]

agree 100% teams defending in numbers is hard to break down, a lot of times a packed defence requires a worldy,
a deflection or a mistake to break the deadlock, then the gameplan falls apart, width seems to be the pundits go to if
the game is a stalemate.

Thats because width stretches a defence. Its harder to defend running to your own goal. Surely thats basic?

 

[Lilbaz]

Thats because width stretches a defence. Its harder to defend running to your own goal. Surely thats basic?

Width is useless unless you get the ball in the box.

 

[Hoops]

Width is useless unless you get the ball in the box.

No shit sherlock

 

[Jgplk1]

A bit from Sunderland fans

Love Spurs away me. Proper ground in a shithole area with lots around it. Best fans in London too IMO.

I agree I like it, however had a couple of proper little arseholes in front of us walking back to White Hart Lane station. One kept bouncing around saying he was on the look out for "Sunderland *****" turning round each time knowing full well we were Sunderland. Got to pity people like that, he's the sort of arsehole who I hope goes away with Spurs one day and makes his mouth go in the wrong pub and gets twatted.

I had mates down and was looking forward to going, police called to say my yard had been burgled so I ended up missing the match. After watching the second half I think I should find and thank the blokes that burgled the yard...

i would have just swung my leg out and decked the little fuckwit as he was bouncing about, wouldn't be the first time i've made a **** of an opposition fan as they were making themselves out to be one.

They are adored, admired, respected, by the press at least, no matter how shit they are at times.

I have no idea why the media would have such an attachement to this particular club??

This. My favourite London trip. Used to always have a bit edge to it, a proper old ground and felt like a proper away day.

Rose got Cattermole booked for nothing and then won a penalty when there was no contact. Poor refereeing to fall for it, but that is no way to play football.


Danny Rose is a legend, he did not cheat in any way. Both were fouls

Best LB I've seen at Safc

Not much else about us... Mostly moaning about Big Sam's tactics and how changing it up cost them the game

 

[ohtottenham!]

Don't want to brag. But anywhere you go in the world you will never be more than 5ft away from my cock.

So why do they call you li'l baz then?

 

[MkYid]

A bit from Sunderland fans

Love Spurs away me. Proper ground in a shithole area with lots around it. Best fans in London too IMO.

I agree I like it, however had a couple of proper little arseholes in front of us walking back to White Hart Lane station. One kept bouncing around saying he was on the look out for "Sunderland *****" turning round each time knowing full well we were Sunderland. Got to pity people like that, he's the sort of arsehole who I hope goes away with Spurs one day and makes his mouth go in the wrong pub and gets twatted.

I had mates down and was looking forward to going, police called to say my yard had been burgled so I ended up missing the match. After watching the second half I think I should find and thank the blokes that burgled the yard...

i would have just swung my leg out and decked the little fuckwit as he was bouncing about, wouldn't be the first time i've made a **** of an opposition fan as they were making themselves out to be one.

They are adored, admired, respected, by the press at least, no matter how shit they are at times.

I have no idea why the media would have such an attachement to this particular club??

This. My favourite London trip. Used to always have a bit edge to it, a proper old ground and felt like a proper away day.

Rose got Cattermole booked for nothing and then won a penalty when there was no contact. Poor refereeing to fall for it, but that is no way to play football.


Danny Rose is a legend, he did not cheat in any way. Both were fouls

Best LB I've seen at Safc

Not much else about us... Mostly moaning about Big Sam's tactics and how changing it up cost them the game

I have always liked Sunderland\ sunderland fans, down to earth and reminds me alot of 90s spurs

 

[RickyVilla]

Is this turning into the "I like (insert away fans) because they remind me of us when I was a whippersnapper" thread? Great.

 

[Lilbaz]

So why do they call you li'l baz then?

You should see the size of my dads.

 

[fletch82]

You should see the size of my dads.

Do you mind awfully if we just skip that ?

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

You should see the size of my dads.

He'd run a mile..........well, he'd have to to reach the other end!

 

[Spurger King]

You should see the size of my dads.

How many dads are we talking about?

 

[Hoops]

They like coming to a shithole because it reminds them of home.

 

[riggi]

They like coming to a shithole because it reminds them of home.

 

[bomberH]

A bit from Sunderland fans

Love Spurs away me. Proper ground in a shithole area with lots around it. Best fans in London too IMO.

Nice thing to say but based on yesterday I'm surprised. Our fans were very quiet first half, probably because 1) 1245 kick offs against a non top team will do that and 2) we were pretty poor. They even started singing 'is this the library'.

Second half was a lot better, particularly when we took the lead. Loved the fact we sang about a few of our players too. Still hate the 'la la la la you're shit' to the tune of Hey Jude, people started singing that with half hour left. It's only ok to sing to West Ham or Chelsea etc when we're 4 goals up with 2 minutes left. And while I'm at it, I'm a little uncomfortable with the last line of the Eriksen song, it was certainly applicable the last 2 years but Ozil may well win player of the year this year. I know it's just bantz but still...

On the whole, our singing/chanting has suffered over the last few years due to higher expectations and constant Sunday games don't help either. Our away support is still the best around though, in my opinion.

Lastly, I'd just like to mention that my first ever experience of Sunderland fans at WHL was when I was a kid eating in a cafe and around 10 of the fattest ****s with no tops on walked past singing, dancing and wobbling and generally having a fucking great time in the freezing cold.

'Dad, who are they'?
'They're Sunderland fans'.
'Why have they got no tops on in this weather'
'They're not like us'.

Always had a soft spot for them since.

 

[thebenjamin]

Nice thing to say but based on yesterday I'm surprised. Our fans were very quiet first half, probably because 1) 1245 kick offs against a non top team will do that and 2) we were pretty poor. They even started singing 'is this the library'.

Second half was a lot better, particularly when we took the lead. Loved the fact we sang about a few of our players too. Still hate the 'la la la la you're shit' to the tune of Hey Jude, people started singing that with half hour left. It's only ok to sing to West Ham or Chelsea etc when we're 4 goals up with 2 minutes left. And while I'm at it, I'm a little uncomfortable with the last line of the Eriksen song, it was certainly applicable the last 2 years but Ozil may well win player of the year this year. I know it's just bantz but still...

On the whole, our singing/chanting has suffered over the last few years due to higher expectations and constant Sunday games don't help either. Our away support is still the best around though, in my opinion.

Lastly, I'd just like to mention that my first ever experience of Sunderland fans at WHL was when I was a kid eating in a cafe and around 10 of the fattest ****s with no tops on walked past singing, dancing and wobbling and generally having a fucking great time in the freezing cold.

'Dad, who are they'?
'They're Sunderland fans'.
'Why have they got no tops on in this weather'
'They're not like us'.

Always had a soft spot for them since.

Any song about 1 of our players that mentions an arsenal player is a shit song. Can't think of any possible exceptions.