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Ironskullll

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When I read some of the comments about Kane it reminds me of early opinions from our own fans when he was even younger.
His game is not about pace, clever little tricks and the like and so in ordee to see his qualities you have to look a bit closer for longer but when you do you see that he holds up the ball well, very rarely losing possesion he has very quick feet and he scores every conceivable sort of goal from every possible angle, we know this now and so do his fellow professionals but other teams fans still ain't got it yet; they will!
He has a technique that seems to let him strike the ball very accurately even when it seems to be caught under his feet. You almost expect him to screw the shot but it just doesn't happen. I recall George Best being able to do this but not (m)any others. Makes it so hard for the defence to read the shot.
 

Ace

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Anyone remember the video of the chelsea fan in shambles after our 5-3 win? The one with the geezer in his kitchen wearing a hoodie? Looking for the video and cant find it. And since its what an opponents thoughts i decided to ask here.

Thank you
 

JerryGarcia

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Anyone remember the video of the chelsea fan in shambles after our 5-3 win? The one with the geezer in his kitchen wearing a hoodie? Looking for the video and cant find it. And since its what an opponents thoughts i decided to ask here.

Thank you

Was it the guy who pulled out a knife?

If it is, it's in this thread on the 1st or 2nd of Jan.
 

spud

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However, I generally don't make strong comments unless I feel in a position to do so on the basis of a deep and thorough level of information. Doesn't mean that I am always right of course, but I assure you I would not make the comments I have made unless I felt fully justified in having made them, and so I don't apologise for those. Others have made my point for me in far more diplomatic ways and I'll leave it at that, because the information at hand damns the authorities and police, but also the fans in the back, who couldn't even see the game but were continuing to push forward into spaces that didn't actually exist. I'm not quite sure what they though would be the outcome of forcing themselves forwards when they clearly couldn't make any progress.

I do think I'm going to take a stance of 'agree to disagree' on this one though, because there really won't be a middle ground and it's an emotive subject which I'd rather not let take hold of what is probably the best thread on Spurs community. I am sorry for getting arsey with you, I got on the defensive as I didn't feel I'd accused anybody of deliberately causing death and I didn't like my post being taken that way, albeit I do understand how it might have been.
You have raised this subject before on this forum and made the same points. On this occasion you chose to hijack an irrelevant thread to do so.

You clearly have a fixed opinion on this which I and others feel is wrong. You claim to have reached this after extensive study of the facts. I don't doubt this. You are however, viewing it from a perspective which provides you with a distorted view.

First, you are viewing it with hindsight, with a perfect knowledge of the layout of the Leppings Lane End. This has led you to conclude that anybody pushing in the rear must have known that they were adding to the congestion. I was at Hillsborough in 1981 and can assure you that I had no prior knowledge of the geography of the ground or its surroundings. I can further assure you that it was quite common at big games in that era for there to be congestion and this was - at least in my experience - always due to something other than people being crushed to death 20 yards in front of me.

Secondly, you state that anybody pushing at the back
....decided to crush forward and kill the people in front of him...
This clearly imputes perfect knowledge of events in the Leppings Lane pens to everybody joining the rear of the crowd. Even in the days of Internet and Twitter this would be palpable nonsense. In the days before mobile 'phones it is an opinion bordering on lunacy.

I don't think even the most rabid Liverpool fan would claim that all Liverpool fans behaved flawlessly on that day. In any crowd there are always those who do not. But to impute blame for the deaths of 96 to Liverpool fans in 1989 when exactly the same set of circumstances eight years previously had led to nobody being killed is either extremely naive or malicious.

The only difference between 1981 and 1989 - I repeat, the ONLY difference - was that when we were there the police opened the gates in the fence surrounding the pitch. If they had not then it would be Spurs fans who had died at Hillsborough. I have yet to hear anybody ask the question as to why the same was not done in 1989, and can't wait to hear the answer. In the meantime, your distorted opinion is as insulting to the victims and their relatives now as when you first aired it. It is born from ignorance and given substance with a veneer of incomplete knowledge. I hope, but do not believe, that you are sensible enough to keep it to yourself in future.
 

BringBack_leGin

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You have raised this subject before on this forum and made the same points. On this occasion you chose to hijack an irrelevant thread to do so.

You clearly have a fixed opinion on this which I and others feel is wrong. You claim to have reached this after extensive study of the facts. I don't doubt this. You are however, viewing it from a perspective which provides you with a distorted view.

First, you are viewing it with hindsight, with a perfect knowledge of the layout of the Leppings Lane End. This has led you to conclude that anybody pushing in the rear must have known that they were adding to the congestion. I was at Hillsborough in 1981 and can assure you that I had no prior knowledge of the geography of the ground or its surroundings. I can further assure you that it was quite common at big games in that era for there to be congestion and this was - at least in my experience - always due to something other than people being crushed to death 20 yards in front of me.

Secondly, you state that anybody pushing at the back This clearly imputes perfect knowledge of events in the Leppings Lane pens to everybody joining the rear of the crowd. Even in the days of Internet and Twitter this would be palpable nonsense. In the days before mobile 'phones it is an opinion bordering on lunacy.

I don't think even the most rabid Liverpool fan would claim that all Liverpool fans behaved flawlessly on that day. In any crowd there are always those who do not. But to impute blame for the deaths of 96 to Liverpool fans in 1989 when exactly the same set of circumstances eight years previously had led to nobody being killed is either extremely naive or malicious.

The only difference between 1981 and 1989 - I repeat, the ONLY difference - was that when we were there the police opened the gates in the fence surrounding the pitch. If they had not then it would be Spurs fans who had died at Hillsborough. I have yet to hear anybody ask the question as to why the same was not done in 1989, and can't wait to hear the answer. In the meantime, your distorted opinion is as insulting to the victims and their relatives now as when you first aired it. It is born from ignorance and given substance with a veneer of incomplete knowledge. I hope, but do not believe, that you are sensible enough to keep it to yourself in future.

I will do no such thing. I apportion blame to the police, I apportion blame to the stadium officials and I apportion blame to a group of Liverpool fans because as far as I am concerned, if nobody had performed the crushing, nobody would have been crushed, and that is enough to satisfy my mind that some, even if only 2%, of the liability lies with the crushers. Maybe I'm a simpleton, maybe I'm naive, maybe I'm just plain malicious, but unless it is demonstrated to me that each death would have occurred regardless of the crushing, it is my right to place some blame if I genuinemy feel it is there to be placed, just as it is yours and everyone else's right to judge me for it, insult me because of it, and disagree with me over it.

As for hijacking the thread, while my initial post was perhaps a touch crude and not overly in context, I clearly withdrew, apologised for any offence caused, and stopped contributing on that subject, stating that I was doing so because I didn't want to ruin the thread, in the very post you quoted in fact. You, however, dragged the subject and my original post up again several days later when you could have just as easily PM'd me your point. You hypocrite.
 

Insomnia

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Ok enough is enough everybody move back to the topic that this thread is meant to be about.
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spurs mental

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Score Prediction: 4-0 Spurs, we're in for a walloping I'm afraid.

we won't win again this season, ill be amazed if we score tbh

I feel really, really weird about this game. First time all season that I feel genuinely apathetic. I'm going in the hope it'll be a decent atmosphere and day out. I'm expecting nothing on the pitch, I've firmly accepted relegation.


I've got this very strange feeling we're going to sneak a win and all of a sudden build a few hopes up again. That would be a very Leicester thing to do.

Actually quite confident - we've outplayed these at our place at the end of an abysmal run and beat them at theirs.

we wont beat spurs


full stop

3-1 Spurs.... We're finished!


Fairly mixed. A lot,of them have given up hope of staying up and just want to see some good attacking football played by their team now.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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I don't think Leicester are as bad as their results suggest. Obviously the table never lies, but they can play a bit and have a couple of handy players. Wouldn't be adverse to seeing mahrez at the lane next season, either playing against us, or for us
 

spursbri111

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Haha! :ROFLMAO:

Oh my God, that is hilarious! They are such a classless club, top to bottom.
i would be so embarresed if my club did that. they look desperate and pathetic but they ve no need to be. there top of league and gonna win it at a canter. I could sort of understand if there was a title decider coming up next week but ffs
 
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