I love how we have a thread slating LVG for saying "you won, but we're bigger" and here we are saying to Leicester "you're top, but we're better!"
I reckon goal difference is as good a yardstick as any other method to the best best team in a league, also performances against the other top teams including any drubbings handed out. By that method we are the best team in the PL 2015-16 season. I'm going to award myself a trophy too.
You can! They get little credit for anything that they achieve because of the way that they have achieved success. The same for man city. Whoever wins the league this year will get far more recognition than either city or Chelsea ever will. They have left a bad taste in most fans mouths and partisanship aside, even the scum fans are beginning to respect us just as we begrudgingly respected them when they were in their pomp a decade ago.I don't think anyone is doubting Leicester deserve to win the league if they do. They certainly won't be the best team in the league though, that is us.
It's a lot like Chelsea winning the champions league a few seasons ago. Nowhere near the best team but their negative tactics paid off and you can't take it away from them.
2. Funny one this perhaps but still, I maintain the fact we face 10 derby matches over the season also plays its part.Fixtures against Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham have been heated with Palace and Watford equally fired to get one over us. Such intense rivalry does not exist for LCFC with no Derby and Forrest (and Coventry) to play.
These are of course not excuses but (at least in my mind) interesting factors that may of provided some sort of advantage to the Foxes.
Feel like this gets overlooked way too easily.
Going on that bottom line, add City, Liverpool and United to the heated big game stakes for us. Don't think Leicester have that, even now their matches don't have that sort of feeling.Agreed. Can't think of any other team that has 3 fierce rivals (Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham - let alone the other London clubs) in the same division who will consistently raise their game whenever they play us.
Most have 1, some have 2 but rarely 3. Only other team I guess would be man Utd who have Liverpool, city and you could argue Arsenal for historical reasons
I'd even add a third one. Circumstances.Leicester have been fantastic - utterly incredible by any standard. Yet it is worth considering a two points if people are looking at comparing our seasons.
1. LCFC have had no European distractions and since being knocked out the cup (by our good selves) have had a game a week since January. We have played a staggering 10 games more over the season (48 to 38). With fewer internationals in their squad, they have managed to maintain a freshness throughout the campaign.
2. Funny one this perhaps but still, I maintain the fact we face 10 derby matches over the season also plays its part.Fixtures against Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham have been heated with Palace and Watford equally fired to get one over us. Such intense rivalry does not exist for LCFC with no Derby and Forrest (and Coventry) to play.
These are of course not excuses but (at least in my mind) interesting factors that may of provided some sort of advantage to the Foxes.
I'd even add a third one. Circumstances.
Sometimes you play a team at the right time. Sometimes the opposition piss on a team that are in a mess, this same team change manager and are a different proposition when the other title challenger has to face them.
One team may play a relegation candidate earlier in the season whilst that team aren't putting up a last stand fight, then the other title challenger has to play them in the last game of the season in a fight to the death contest.
There's many variables people overlook when they say 'the table doesn't lie', because sometimes it certainly does.
Please, please do not let us decome twats in what has been a very good season for us. Leicester are top because they deserve it, let's not just simply call them long ball merchants, if it was that easy big Sam would have won the league for years. They are an extremely hardworking, well drilled team. There are better than the sum of their parts and a huge credit has to go to Claudio. If they win it we can only blame ourselves, the dropped points against them and Newcastle were huge. What we do have is a much brighter future, young hungry squad and a great young coach, if we take Poch at face value and believe he is going to stick around I won't be to upset about missing out this season.
Going on that bottom line, add City, Liverpool and United to the heated big game stakes for us. Don't think Leicester have that, even now their matches don't have that sort of feeling.
I don't like their brand of (obviously successful football), and said very early on (long before we were in a title fight) that I didn't want them to win the league.
However, one thing I will say about them is that I fully expected them to cave once the opposition finally realised they were playing into their trap over and over again. The fact that they are still winning at this stage of the season suggests their success is down to more than just being underestimated.
It's like they're all terrified of what will happen should we finally turn the corner and get back to where we belong. For all of the success that each of these teams have had over the years, only one team has a successful period referred to as "The Glory Years" and that is us. Even other fans refer to the 60's as the glory years and there was only one title in it. That is how profound an effect that team had on English Football as a whole, one title, 3 FA cups and a Cup Winners Cup is still remembered as glory years by fans of all clubs. Measure that against 2 decades of dominance by the likes of Utd and pool... It's amazing when you think about it.
And now it looks as though we may be on the cusp of emulating that achievement it seems to be terrifying everyone. Let's face it, we haven't bought a title like Chelsea and City, we haven't been so dominant that we've looked down our noses at all and sundry for the last 20 years, we haven't spent years claiming "next year is our year", playing the victim to anyone who'll listen and even using the darkest time in our history as a marketing tool in America, latching onto 9/11 to try to win a fan base extension. We haven't been gifted a stadium paid for by the fans of every other club, Hell we even offered to buy it, improve it and renovate another stadium synonymous with British Athletics for over a century. Our club has conducted itself with dignity for many years, has been shafted on a regular basis going back nigh on 100 years, been on the verge of bankruptcy and had to watch as, just as we were on the verge of taking that step into the top table, yet another club wins the lottery with huge financial doping.
Yet here we are, despite all of the adversity, back on the cusp of something special.
A story such as ours you would expect would garner grudging admiration, even outright respect and do we get it?
Do we Fuck!
I'd write more but that last line is so Fast Show I just can't!
The BBC had a long article about how Spurs winning the title would also be a fairytale story.
Numerous pundits have been drooling over our football.
The Spurs link was widely acknowledged in England's recent win over the world champions.
Sky Sports regularly highlight our incredible stats.
Kane and Alli are fast becoming national favourites.
There seems to be a universal love-in for Pochettino.
And purely on a personal level, I know loads of fans of other teams (including Arsenal, United, and Liverpool) who have had a lot of very positive things to say about us, with many saying they'd be happy to see us win it if Leicester don't.
I wouldn't let a bit of selective negativity from other boards colour your view of how much others have appreciated what we've done this season.
But it was such a good rant...
You could have at least waited until the morning before pissing on my cornflakes!