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ernie78

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Pundits as a whole are ignorant and keen to spew out the same old shit. There are only a few worth listening too but they don’t get as much prime airtime as the tired “stick to the script” types like shearer and the sky bunch. I just don’t bother listening to them anymore. How Merson gets paid to give “insight” is beyond belief. They say football management is an old boys club but football punditry is worse.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Let them keep underestimating us, just makes it sweeter to keep proving them wrong.

End of every summer/ beginning of every season: wheels to come off at Spurs.

Every season in reality: wheels stay on, we keep defying expectation.

We’re here to stay and they can’t understand it because the idea of developing a club patiently, without paying the gdp of a small country, and progressing with players who want to be there rather than at the highest bidder, is just not sexy enough.
 

absolute bobbins

Am Yisrael Chai
Feb 12, 2013
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Shearer can't help himself, he seems to think that clubs should just put their hands in the pockets to match Man City, without any real thought as to how they can actually do it, much like many modern day pundits spout on about smashing wage ceilings as if it can be done as simply as they seem to think it can be done. Dickheads ! Wasn't he one of the same dismissive dickheads that said at the beginning of the season we would fall well short of top 4 because we hadn't spent enough and we were playing all our home games at Wembley.

It would have been decent of him to acknowledge his wrongs by admitting that he was too hasty in dismissing us so easily in getting top 4 but it doesn't surprise me that he hasn't.

As I sign off both Shearer and Wright are still banging on about how Liverpool are likely to get 100 points next season and still thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread. If they were that bloody good then why did they finish 4th, which was below us ?

The problem is that pundits and journalists, like most fans are as thick as pigshit when it comes to understanding finance. Even before the content of their ramblings you can glean that from the language they use.
 

jurgen

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Guardian go balls deep by not putting Kane in the top 5 players of the season and calling Raheem Sterling 'England's best player.'
 
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Guardian go balls deep by not putting Kane in the top 5 players of the season and calling Raheem Sterling 'England's best player.'
Hopefully he turns up during the world cup, it feels that he has been pretty quiet the last month or so of this season I would say (without checking all the stats that is)
 

Dov67

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I'm sure many of these "pundits" have been knee deep in our financials over the last few months and have studied our cash flow projections and debt finance arrangements in detail before giving us their expert opinion.

Several others like Merson and Jamie Redknapp in particular, have years of experience delivering billion pound construction projects enabling them to predict with precision exactly what our spending plans will be and should be.
 

absolute bobbins

Am Yisrael Chai
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I'm sure many of these "pundits" have been knee deep in our financials over the last few months and have studied our cash flow projections and debt finance arrangements in detail before giving us their expert opinion.

Several others like Merson and Jamie Redknapp in particular, have years of experience delivering billion pound construction projects enabling them to predict with precision exactly what our spending plans will be and should be.
Especially Merse, he actually does quant work for Goldman
 

WalkerboyUK

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The problem with the majority of pundits is that they have a bias towards their former club.
The second problem is that there is a lack of ex-Spurs pundits.
The third problem is that those ex-Spurs pundits are a lot less biased than others.

Ian Wright is one of the few I can tolerate, mainly because he says it like it is, and isn't afraid to knock what Arsenal have been doing and praise us.
 

SpursDave88

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Shearer said we have our model and won't change it, he isn't wrong but only because he has absolutely no idea whatsoever what our model is, he thinks he does but he's an idiot.
We have never had a wage cap as in we won't pay anyone more than a certain figure, what we have is a rule to keep our wages to a percentage of turnover and we will continue with that I have no doubt. What will change is our turnover so our wages will increase accordingly and that is what he doesn't understand.
A lot of these pundits are in for a surprise I think.

To be fair he is only going on our past behavior. We qualified for the CL two years in a row and still didn't have a positive net spend. We had Bale and Modric and CL football but passed on Dzeko, Aguero and Suarez instead preferring to go for freebies like Saha, Nelsen and Peinaar. When push comes to shove, much like our first team in terms of trophies, when we have had an opportunity to make that last step, we have never ever done it instead hoping to stand still whilst selling.

This may come across as me being negative but in fact I am only stating the observable facts as they stand.

You cannot deny that a big splurge, as we have been promised every summer, would be an extreme departure from all observable past behavior.

Given all this Shearer's view is the only reasonable one to hold until proven otherwise. The ITK we have seen is very encouraging. I'll believe it when I see those new top players in Spurs shirts and until then I will remain skeptical.
 

WalkerboyUK

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To be fair he is only going on our past behavior. We qualified for the CL two years in a row and still didn't have a positive net spend. We had Bale and Modric and CL football but passed on Dzeko, Aguero and Suarez instead preferring to go for freebies like Saha, Nelsen and Peinaar. When push comes to shove, much like our first team in terms of trophies, when we have had an opportunity to make that last step, we have never ever done it instead hoping to stand still whilst selling.

This may come across as me being negative but in fact I am only stating the observable facts as they stand.

You cannot deny that a big splurge, as we have been promised every summer, would be an extreme departure from all observable past behavior.

Given all this Shearer's view is the only reasonable one to hold until proven otherwise. The ITK we have seen is very encouraging. I'll believe it when I see those new top players in Spurs shirts and until then I will remain skeptical.

Redknapp said no to Suarez, not Levy...
 

Sevens

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Hopefully he turns up during the world cup, it feels that he has been pretty quiet the last month or so of this season I would say (without checking all the stats that is)

Personally I hope he picks up a non serious knock that keeps him out of action so he gets some rest for next season.
 

Sevens

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To be fair he is only going on our past behavior. We qualified for the CL two years in a row and still didn't have a positive net spend. We had Bale and Modric and CL football but passed on Dzeko, Aguero and Suarez instead preferring to go for freebies like Saha, Nelsen and Peinaar. When push comes to shove, much like our first team in terms of trophies, when we have had an opportunity to make that last step, we have never ever done it instead hoping to stand still whilst selling.

This may come across as me being negative but in fact I am only stating the observable facts as they stand.

You cannot deny that a big splurge, as we have been promised every summer, would be an extreme departure from all observable past behavior.

Given all this Shearer's view is the only reasonable one to hold until proven otherwise. The ITK we have seen is very encouraging. I'll believe it when I see those new top players in Spurs shirts and until then I will remain skeptical.

I've said for a while now that ENIC are a business. There have been massive mutual benefits for ENIC and Spurs but let us not kid ourselves, there is no way ENIC are going to take financial risks. If the choice is 3rd in the league and turning a profit vs spending to give us a 50% chance of winning the league but risking the fact that if we failed to win the league we wouldn't turn a profit? Then ENIC/Levy would be content with 3rd and will not risk the spend in case they get no return on it.

Nothing is going to change to our model. What may change is that with increased revenues we will be able to compete for certain players wages who may have been out of our reach before but we won't go crazy. And I still fully expect the scenario where the transfer budgets will be kept in line with transfer funds raised through selling players.
 

bomberH

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I wish these pieces would appear on bigger platforms so everyone can see what shite they write and how hypocritical they are.

Fans don’t help themselves though. The problem is most fans know that journos on the whole are either crap, biased or lacking knowledge so they ridicule them on forums like these to their fellow fans. But when that same journo reports negatively on a rival club, then all of a sudden that journalist is a model professional who is spot on.

The best ones are the hypocrites like Ian Herbert in that link above. I’ve seen a few of those every so often on twitter where they’ve completely contradicted themselves and someone has gone to the effort to find a piece that journo wrote a couple of years previously and shown them up for the idiots they are. There should be a front page sticky on every fan forum ever with these on to remind us that a hell of a lot of journalists are just fans who got lucky and don’t know squat about any football club but their own... and not even much of their own!
 
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double0

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I feel the pundits can only give so much praise without winning silverware. There not bothered about training grounds stadium and progression. It's fair game at the moment to spin praise towards us unfortunately until we win a trophy...even that wouldn't abate the press ie look at the negative press Manchester United get.

What I will say this squad is well capable of winning a cup.
 
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Shadydan

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The only person who has got it right about Spurs who has actually gone in depth to explain our situation is Gary Neville and he is head and shoulders the best pundit on TV which is why he's the best, you should only really listen to him if you want a pundits view.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Guardian go balls deep by not putting Kane in the top 5 players of the season and calling Raheem Sterling 'England's best player.'

Sadly the guardian take their self accredited mantle of ‘newspaper who provide an unconventional, thought provoking view’ a bit to seriously and in turn spurn out fairy tales and myths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44100746

So in the context of the league we finish above where we were expected to but get the same marks as Liverpool who do exactly as expected. Seems like a balanced scoring system. Expected to finished 6th but disappointingly didn't mount a title challenge.

Ah the BBC, supposedly the height of UK journalism. Sadly these days it’s as valid a source of news as the latest edition of a Marvel comic.

Fools the lot of them!
 
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