What the pundits & media are saying about us

[kungfujoe98]

Puzzled by the fuss on MotD over the VAR monitor showing the freeze frame of Jones’ boot squarely on Bissouma’s ankle. Firstly, that’s the whole point - showing that the opponent had been endangered and it was likely serious foul play. Secondly, their own footage showed the screen then show it in motion anyway.

They seem to be complaining that VAR highlighted the thing that the ref seemed to have missed first time round. What are they expecting it to show?

As for the disallowed goal, so much punditry seemed to ignore that there were about 70 mins (inc additions) afterwards and the rest of it would not have played out exactly how it did with the goal ruled out.

Anyway, Redknapp looked on the brink of tears in the post match analysis, so it’s all good.

 

[Marty]

Just caught up on MOTD... after discussing (excusing) the red cards, then whinging about the awfulness and long term implications of the offside call, the only words spoken about us were Shearer's "Well done to Spurs though, they've started the season well" before Lineker introduced the next game.

If that was the other way around, nobody would give a toss about the offside, our players would be immature for getting themselves in those situations and Liverpool would be getting lauded for their resilience and taking advantage of City dropping points.

There is absolutely no way a wrong offside call that obvious in the age of VAR wouldn't be the subject of enormous scrutiny regardless of who the beneficiaries were. It's one of the worst decisions in the five seasons VAR has been in force, and the way it supposedly came about due to the VAR no knowing if he was confirming a goal or an offside when he said "check complete" is just staggeringly poor communication.

Now the red cards are a different kettle of fish. Both are entirely justifiable and banging on about those is petty.

 

[Mr Pink]

There is absolutely no way a wrong offside call that obvious in the age of VAR wouldn't be the subject of enormous scrutiny regardless of who the beneficiaries were. It's one of the worst decisions in the five seasons VAR has been in force.

Now the red cards are a different kettle of fish. Both are entirely justifiable and banging on about those is petty.

Of course, but it was one decision and it happened 33 minutes into the game when they were already down to 10 men.

They way its talked about you'd of thought it would of guaranteed them the 3 points.

Its a very bad decision because he's clearly onside, but it's just one decision that's gone against them. It didn't mean they were winning the game.

I've even had Man United mates say they were robbed.

Fuck me, its just goes to show you how irrelevant we are to them all....we've been robbed way more against those two over the years and no one bats an eyelid.

Fuck em.

 

[PLTuck]

I don't remember this level of fuss when

a) Jota almost took Skippys head off and then scored the winner.
b) CL Final 'handball'
c) Sonny got sent off with a similarly non intentional but similarly reckless challenge under Jose.

 

[midoshairband]

arguing over the Jones red is laughable.

Neville's 'didn't mean to do him' comment completely misses the point - he wasn't sent off for violent conduct.

he was sent off for serious foul play, part of which is being out of control. which presumably he was, otherwise he'd have stopped his foot scraping the top of the ball and smashing into Bissouma's shin.

and that snidey little prick Jota is constantly fouling an claiming innocence.

 

[philll]

Neville seems to really dislike Spurs this season. I guess it's jealousy as he thought Man U would be challenging and Spurs struggling.

I said it the other week - it feels like he's overcompensating for (correctly) doubting Arsenal last season. He's convinced they'll win it and he's convinced we won't and yet here we are tied on everything except goals scored (where we're ahead) and we have far fewer games to play between now and the end of the year. I don't think we'll win it either but I just don't understand his newfound certainty about Arsenal when to my mind they don't look anywhere near as good/ruthless/consistent as they did last season.

 

[chas vs dave]

Whilst the decision is bad, I heard Miguel Delaney call it a conspiracy on sky sports news.

He's supposedly a "respected" journalist.

It's a mistake, not a conspiracy. Language like this belies the very essence of journalism.

 

[worcestersauce]

There's not a single one of them predicted us anywhere near top four at the start of the season and they don't like the possibility of being proved wrong.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

We have to seperate the offside decision from the fact that we’ve benefited from it. It was a poor decision, I said it to my mates in a discord call while we were watching the game. If we had been on the receiving end of it we would all be losing our collective shit.

However, dragging the two red cards into the debate is pure nonsense. They were both clearly justifiable decisions. Unfortunately it’s Liverpool, so their fans will bitch and moan and use it as an excuse for getting outclassed by us for the majority of the game.

Hopefully when they’re done they can find the courage to search Udogie’s pocket for Salah.

 

[kungfujoe98]

Whilst the decision is bad, I heard Miguel Delaney call it a conspiracy on sky sports news.

He's supposedly a "respected" journalist.

It's a mistake, not a conspiracy. Language like this belies the very essence of journalism.

Exactly. Incompetence, yes. Conspiracy or corruption? No, hardly ever and certainly not this one. If you’re gonna be corrupt, you’d want to do it a bit more subtly than that! (Cue Matt Le Tissier saying “That’s what they want you to think” )

 

[Flynn]

The reason is that talking about Liverpool get clicks and interactions, which is all they want.

There's not much in the way of agenda against us. It's pure cynicism.

 

[Marty]

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So in this screenshot we have three pieces about VAR, two of which are reaction videos, one complimentary article saying we are in a title race and a match report where the headline is the winning goal, not VAR.

That's not bad at all. Hardly worth banging on about.

 

[spursyido1]

Puzzled by the fuss on MotD over the VAR monitor showing the freeze frame of Jones’ boot squarely on Bissouma’s ankle. Firstly, that’s the whole point - showing that the opponent had been endangered and it was likely serious foul play. Secondly, their own footage showed the screen then show it in motion anyway.

They seem to be complaining that VAR highlighted the thing that the ref seemed to have missed first time round. What are they expecting it to show?

As for the disallowed goal, so much punditry seemed to ignore that there were about 70 mins (inc additions) afterwards and the rest of it would not have played out exactly how it did with the goal ruled out.

Anyway, Redknapp looked on the brink of tears in the post match analysis, so it’s all good.

Also found it odd on MOTD/Sky them mentioning the freeze-frame/slow-mo on the VAR monitor. It happens every single time - I don't remember hearing complaints before?

I've been feeling/saying for a while that slow-mo replays for VAR calls get used way too often, particularly for handballs and fouls where the speed they happen is really important context. The game isn't played in slow motion.

Just weird both broadcasters mentioned it when it's been happening on every decision for ages though.

 

[Snarfalicious]

I hope they continue to doubt us, personally. Let us fly under the radar as long as we can and see where we end up.

 

[cjbyid]

Find it mental that most of them don't agree with the red card for Jones

 

[the yid]

Find it mental that most of them don't agree with the red card for Jones

Every fan of every club last week said Nketiah should've got sent off. Jones is worse and they argue it wasn't????

 

[SpringHeeledJim]

Find it mental that most of them don't agree with the red card for Jones

Surprisingly Craig Burley on ESPN was one of the voices of reason (never thought I'd write that). He was flabbergasted that people were debating it

 

[DarwinSpur]

Some people on here are being as precious as Liverpool fans.

Just enjoy the ride.

 

[AngryBob]

If Romero had done the exact same as Jones the narrative would be 100% the opposite. I'm loving the total fuckwittery of the officiating yesterday, totally winding up my Liverpool mates even more, than a simple 11v11 win. lols

 

[Guernman]

Every fan of every club last week said Nketiah should've got sent off. Jones is worse and they argue it wasn't????

I think both are clear reds, but to be fair, Jones was trying to play the ball and did make contact with the ball so that sort of action is always going to get defenders of how the game used to be and arguments that this is a contact sport etc. It was still a red because he went over the top and could easily have broken Bissouma's leg. Nketiah, on the other hand, just flew into Vicario long after the ball had been played in an act of petulant frustration.