What the pundits & media are saying about us

[-Afri-Coy-]

I think both are clear reds, but to be fair, Jones was trying to play the ball and did make contact with the ball so that sort of action is always going to get defenders of how the game used to be and arguments that this is a contact sport etc. It was still a red because he went over the top and could easily have broken Bissouma's leg. Nketiah, on the other hand, just flew into Vicario long after the ball had been played in an act of petulant frustration.

Just to add to your point here, I think intention only matters when it comes to violent conduct and not dangerous play.

Both are Red card offences, but one requires malicious intent and the other can be accidental but is still punishable by the rules.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Looking at the debates in many of the youtube videos, I am beginning to get utterly disappointed that all these experts are actually more interested in the human error of that fucking VAR instead of discussing more of our play, our mentality, the ill-discipline nature of Liverpool in just 7games and our potential for this season.

Nobody is giving us any credit - fine. But let's not talk to such depth that the disallowed goal was the last kick of the match that could have given them all 3 points or snatching a draw in any case. For fuck sake.

 

[rossdapep]

At the beginning of the season Carragher, and I forget who else it was, Said they were impressed with spurs and they have an outside chance of top 4.

Neville immediately dismissed it "Need better defenders"

Someone said "They have Romero and Vdv looks good"

to which he replied "Need better defenders"

And that was as far as he was willing to go.

I dont know why? Perhaps he was something that worried him and was trying to convince himself.

I think he is a good pundit but far too often he lets his United bias creep into other subjects.

He looked pissed off when he said it too

"Neville seems to really dislike Spurs this season. I guess it's jealousy as he thought Man U would be challenging and Spurs struggling.

 

[chas vs dave]

The sheer outrage and noise just sums up the position of an entitled fanbase. Years of success and winning haven't taught them humility, or being able to deal with major disappointment.

 

[Col_M]

Find it mental that most of them don't agree with the red card for Jones

used that in an argument with a Liverpool whiner on X. Told him if he can’t see that Jones was a red card then it’s not worth listening to him cry like a little girl for the offside goal. I got blocked.

 

[SA_Spurs]

At the beginning of the season Carragher, and I forget who else it was, Said they were impressed with spurs and they have an outside chance of top 4.

Neville immediately dismissed it "Need better defenders"

Someone said "They have Romero and Vdv looks good"

to which he replied "Need better defenders"

And that was as far as he was willing to go.

I dont know why? Perhaps he was something that worried him and was trying to convince himself.

I think he is a good pundit but far too often he lets his United bias creep into other subjects.

He looked pissed off when he said it too

Bitter ex-players the lot of them. If you remember, he accused Ange of copying Pep so when Ange appeared on some of the other (god knows there's already too many footie shows!) show and was asked about our start to the season and playing style, he casually said that he's just copying Pep. Bitter small dick man Neville took that personally and ever since then, he's not very complimentary.

I don't gives a rats ass, all thee biased pundits & experts and go suck each other dicks squabbling over Pep, Klopp & Ten Hag whilst we slowly build our season and become even stronger. We just keep boiling piss & these jokers will write all the punch lines for us

 

[Trix]

We need to take the off side goal out of the equation, because I don't think anyone anywhere is arguing the outcome wasn't anything other than a catastrophic error. I think the incompetency of this decision is amplifying the red cards as well as some kind of injustice, when they weren't.

Liverpool need to take a good hard look at how they are playing right now because this is 4 reds in 6 games and if they continue to play how they've played the last few years it will be more. There was strong directive to all of the premier league that refs were clamping down on many infringements that had been let go in the past, and everyone else seems to have understood and adapted to them except them.

 

[ernie78]

Re Neville stating how we ran out of ideas for how to attack 9 men camping in their box and then commenting on what Man U did in his time. Could he not have taken a minute to consider that this is our 7th game under Ange and that he has pretty much revolutionised our playing style against 11 (which would’ve been his priority).

The focus of the media re Spurs seems to have been on the 2nd half inability to break down 9 men rather than any mention of the fluid, brave passing sequences of the 1st half

 

[yankspurs]

We need to take the off side goal out of the equation, because I don't think anyone anywhere is arguing the outcome wasn't anything other than a catastrophic error. I think the incompetency of this decision is amplifying the red cards as well as some kind of injustice, when they weren't.

Liverpool need to take a good hard look at how they are playing right now because this is 4 reds in 6 games and if they continue to play how they've played the last few years it will be more. There was strong directive to all of the premier league that refs were clamping down on many infringements that had been let go in the past, and everyone else seems to have understood and adapted to them except them.

This is exactly it. Refs arent being so lenient anymore. Last season only had 30 reds. Was in the 40s the years before. That number is already at 16 reds through 7 match weeks. Managers need to be more cautious with players on yellows & players need to be more cautious in not being idiots.

 

[Flynn]

The sheer outrage and noise just sums up the position of an entitled fanbase. Years of success and winning haven't taught them humility, or being able to deal with major disappointment.

They were just as bad when they were shit for 10 years.

 

[Matrix]

Just watched a piece on NBC with the “Two Robbie’s“, and they were baying for officials blood.
Robbie Earle went to far as to say the 17 unbeaten game run Liverpool had been brought to an end by a bad VAR call. Sorry but how can he say that..does he have a crystal ball where Liverpool stayed at 1-0 with 10 men?
What’s funny is, he then proceeded to back getting rid of it…which meant Liverpool wouldn’t have got the goal anyway, which would have meant they wouldn’t have gone 1-0 up regardless. absolute plum.

Robbie Mustoe wanted better referees and better VAR…easier said than done my friend. Where are these refs going to magically come from? The more these refs are scapegoated the less you will have coming through…ask them to be a ref and 100% they would knock it back cause of the pressure involve.

Some prick on Sky kinda suggested having the game replayed. What about previous games where the pgmol have admitted mistake from previous seasons, we replay those too? Seriously…..

Yes a massive miscommunication last night, but something tells me if this was a game on at 3pm between Palace and Fulham, there would not be as much noise as this.
What gets me about all this, all these press/pundits think they are super human and never made any mistakes. Mistakes are a part of life, being an official in Premier League doesn’t mean that human trait gets erased..

I like that they are letting us fly under the radar. Puts us in good stead and let’s the confidence build, but god give us some credit for getting the winner.

 

[Trix]

I do think those on here trying to down play the offside goal by saying it wouldn't be highlighted so much if it wasn't a high profile game are getting it all wrong and completely missing the point.

It's the one thing var should 100% get right. It isn't subjective and should be infallible unless the technology is at fault. It's a massive massive deal to have got this so wrong regardless of the fixture. To get a human error on something like this is inexcusable and makes a mockery of the entire system.

 

[yankspurs]

Just watched a piece on NBC with the “Two Robbie’s“, and they were baying for officials blood.
Robbie Earle went to far as to say the 17 unbeaten game run Liverpool had been brought to an end by a bad VAR call. Sorry but how can he say that..does he have a crystal ball where Liverpool stayed at 1-0 with 10 men?
What’s funny is, he then proceeded to back getting rid of it…which meant Liverpool wouldn’t have got the goal anyway, which would have meant they wouldn’t have gone 1-0 up regardless. absolute plum.

Robbie Mustoe wanted better referees and better VAR…easier said than done my friend. Where are these refs going to magically come from? The more these refs are scapegoated the less you will have coming through…ask them to be a ref and 100% they would knock it back cause of the pressure involve.

Some prick on Sky kinda suggested having the game replayed. What about previous games where the pgmol have admitted mistake from previous seasons, we replay those too? Seriously…..

Yes a massive miscommunication last night, but something tells me if this was a game on at 3pm between Palace and Fulham, there would not be as much noise as this.
What gets me about all this, all these press/pundits think they are super human and never made any mistakes. Mistakes are a part of life, being an official in Premier League doesn’t mean that human trait gets erased..

I like that they are letting us fly under the radar. Puts us in good stead and let’s the confidence build, but god give us some credit for getting the winner.

NBC had to go overboard today because Liverpool fans here were mad they didnt go over it for umpteen hours yesterday. Even PIF posse Arlo White was furious on the bird yesterday & called out his former employers for not wanting to upset the league. Meanwhile, for the last 9 years, NBC’s had a slobbering love affair for liverpool but of course everyone’s bias against liverpool & all that.

 

[yankspurs]

I do think those on here trying to down play the offside goal by saying it wouldn't be highlighted so much if it wasn't a high profile game are getting it all wrong and completely missing the point.

It's the one thing var should 100% get right. It isn't subjective and should be infallible unless the technology is at fault. It's a massive massive deal to have got this so wrong regardless of the fixture. To get a human error on something like this is inexcusable and makes a mockery of the entire system.

That offside call should be the end of the PGMOL being the VAR decision makers. But the Mike Dean statement already should have been the end of it. Foreign crews need to be reviewing decisions as they wont have such biases.

The collective failings in the days leading up & the incident yesterday should just not ever happen. Allowing them to go off to do freelance reffing work in the UAE 2 days ago & come back to be VAR officials in the weekends biggest game was a terrible decision & it might have played a part in the VAR crews failure to pay attention to decision on the pitch.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

here in Hong Kong, when Liverpool got a corner in 2nd half, the commentary said "if Liverpool is going to score one through set pieces it's going to be VVD, Matip or Konate", he is spot on

 

[Misfit]

Kind of happy the media aren't building us up after beating Pool. You know they'd only be doing it to knock us down at the first appportinity.

Gotta get them sweet sweet adbux.

 

[FITZ]

BBC

 

[Mr Pink]

BBC

This is insufferable now.

They were both red cards ffs.

No decent reporting anywhere because it's fucking Liverpool.

 

[floydiohead]

Yeah I think it's jealousy. I bet that when Ten Hag is sacked Neville will be constantly saying they need Postecoglu.

This is an almost certainty. Unless Spurs can finish in a league position this season which exceeds all expectations, we are going to have to put up with the 'Ange has proved himself and now must move to a club at the highest level' trope for the entire summer and beyond.

 

[Griff001]

As much as the outcry about this match has been massively excessive, and the VAR debacle had allowed the narrative that there were countless other terrible decisions (there weren't, two maybe max), I actually don't mind it too much because it keeps us under the radar a little still.

No one is giving us any credit yet and that's only a good thing imo, keeps the team hungry and hopefully opposition teams will underestimate us for a little while longer.