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What went wrong at Tottenham Hotspur?

guate

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Excellent read even if it is a bit long. Definitely agree with all that the author says although our bean counter must also take part of the blame by not giving 'Arry the players he wanted to bring in when it was obvious we desperately needed a striker.......still do in fact to share the load with young Harry
 

sherbornespurs

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And there was me thinking it 'all went wrong' when we were sitting 3rd in the League in January 2012 and decided the 2 players we needed to push on for a title challenge were Louis Saha and Ryan Nelson.
 

davidmatzdorf

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It's an excellently written article with a good understanding (for a change) of the nature of risk management and the status of THFC in the league hierarchy.

It's rather repetitive and could have done with a harsher edit, but we can live with that, as the point being repeated - about the nature of risk and how you should - or rather shouldn't - judge a risk that crystallises - is worth hammering home.

Some of the chronology about the Terry/Capello/Redknapp/Hodgson saga is not exactly incorrect, but rather misleading - from the moment Hodgson got the England job, we won 3 and drew 1 of our last 4 matches, but the article focuses only on the draw with Villa. That turnaround has always suggested to me that some of our bad form was about our players being anxious about losing the manager, as well as the manager having his attention elsewhere.

But it's still a good article that deserves more attention than the kind of simplistic comment that (stereotypically) attributes the whole saga to the players we acquired in the January 2012 transfer window. That team was good enough to stroll into 3rd place without any additional signings at all.
 
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Matthew Wyatt

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It's an excellently written article with a good understanding (for a change). But it's still a good article that deserves more attention than the kind of simplistic comment that (stereotypically) attributes the whole saga to the players we acquired in the January 2012 transfer window. That team was good enough to stroll into 3rd place without any additional signings at all.
Seriously? Interesting contention, although with a better coach I suppose we might have.
 

guiltyparty

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It's an excellently written article with a good understanding (for a change) or the nature of risk management and the status of THFC in the league hierarchy.

It's rather repetitive and could have done with a harsher edit, but we can live with that, as the point being repeated - about the nature of risk and how you should - or rather shouldn't - judge a risk that crystallises - is worth hammering home.

Some of the chronology about the Terry/Capello/Redknapp/Hodgson saga is not exactly incorrect, but rather misleading - from the moment Hodgson got the England job, we won 3 and drew 1 of our last 4 matches, but the article focuses only on the draw with Villa. That turnaround has always suggested to me that some of our bad form was about our players being anxious about losing the manager, as well as the manager having his attention elsewhere.

But it's still a good article that deserves more attention than the kind of simplistic comment that (stereotypically) attributes the whole saga to the players we acquired in the January 2012 transfer window. That team was good enough to stroll into 3rd place without any additional signings at all.

AVB also wasn't sacked which it insists several times. And it doesn't once mention Harry's trial which is an extenuating factor that can't be ignored.

I enjoyed it as a piece of writing (bar the repetitions, tense issues and the weird lapses into dude speak despite attempting to be a serious piece - it doesn't seem like it's by a trained journalist, which makes it a better accomplishment in a way).

I started reading it thinking I'd agree with most of it, but bar the end it became clear that while the prevailing risk/our place in things stuff is good, a lot of the details are wrong as you say, or over egged. Which makes it an interesting take but far from 'the record of what happened'.
 

ginola007

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The article might as well say: A butterfly flaps its wings in one corner of the earth and creates a hurricane at a the other.
 

DreadySpur

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I didn't read entire article...I got as far Redknapp's attention being turned towards the England job, which I agree is the case. What I don't agree is the case is that he was the natural choice for the job with the FA.

The media launched a huge campaign to convince the public and the FA that Redknapp was the perfect choice and made it seem that it was only a matter of time and a positive outcome in his trial and the job would be his...this is what turned Redknapp's head and caused him to take his eye off the ball and the players to react to the prospect of losing their manager.
 

UbeAstard

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I didn't read entire article...I got as far Redknapp's attention being turned towards the England job, which I agree is the case. What I don't agree is the case is that he was the natural choice for the job with the FA.

The media launched a huge campaign to convince the public and the FA that Redknapp was the perfect choice and made it seem that it was only a matter of time and a positive outcome in his trial and the job would be his...this is what turned Redknapp's head and caused him to take his eye off the ball and the players to react to the prospect of losing their manager.

So its the medias fault what Redknapp reads and takes seriously?
 

Sweetsman

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The article might as well say: A butterfly flaps its wings in one corner of the earth and creates a hurricane at a the other.
Are you saying that Terry's racist jibe caused Harry Kane? I think Mr and Mrs Kane may have something to say about that, but Terry does have previous with sexual burgling.
 

gloryglory

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I do think the idea we have consistently followed a strategy is an exaggeration, if not a myth. Levy would clearly like to keep gambling on youth - but the Redknapp era saw us ditch the DoF and "invest" in Parker, Crouch, Keane, Defoe, Gallas, Friedel ...
 

spud

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Thoroughly enjoyed that. Thanks for posting it mawspurs.
 
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