When will the fans' mentalities change?

[Shadydan]

I mean the players mentalities have which was pretty much instilled by the management so when will the fans? I'm talking about dreading going into a tough match like West Brom for example and actually thinking that we'd get something out of it...because it seems like there are still quite a number of fans who look forward to matches with dread?

I know it's deeply ingrained into our Tottenham DNA, yes it was true that Tottenham used to always let you down and if Tottenham didn't let you down there was always an outside influence (lasagnate, 4th place 2011/12) okay yes fair enough and also Tottenham were a bit 'Spursy' (I really despise that fucking word) at the end of last season...Yeah yeah Newcastle blah blah

BUT

Surely by now the tide is shifting where we are beginning to act like a top team, I mean the evidence is overwhelmingly pointing towards it... does anyone think any of our players are bricking it at the prospect of facing Solomon Rondon? Do you think our players throw hissy fits at poch claiming he get it wrong when they see the team lineup before the matches? Do you reckon they expect to get rolled over by one of the bigger sides before they face them...nah me neither so why do the fans?

So yeah...Spurs fans, isn't it time to man up a little rather than marinating in self wallowing and pity and bemoaning something which happened 10 years ago, we're a different side now so yeah can we stop being pussies please, cheers

* Cue us getting totally spanked by Brom tomorrow

 

[Bulletspur]

But they have Chadli and he is going to do a Spursy by scoring against us.......

 

[Bulletspur]

On a serious note you are correct. I was thinking this the other day that we are the team that others now do not look forward to play. They change their own team's usual way of playing just to counteract how we play, something we use to do against the better teams. Now there aren't any that would be much better than us.

 

[rossdapep]

I still get that doubt in the back of my mind. I think the only thing that will eradicate will be the moment we win the title.

 

[Dougal]

Anyone dread the last game of last season against relegated Newcastle when we only needed a point? That's because the moment you relax, you really feel the full whack.

 

[Chris Flynn]

I think when we go through a season without ballsing it up at the final hurdle, then fans outlook will change. Hopefully that will be this season

 

[Bulletspur]

I still get that doubt in the back of my mind. I think the only thing that will eradicate will be the moment we win the title.

Anyone dread the last game of last season against relegated Newcastle when we only needed a point? That's because the moment you relax, you really feel the full whack.

I think when we go through a season without ballsing it up at the final hurdle, then fans outlook will change. Hopefully that will be this season

I hear you all. The attitude will change but not overnight. I too have doubts but I fight it by having faith in the team and being positive.

 

[Dougal]

Once bitten, twice shy. A lifetime of bites and you spend most weekends on edge. I can have faith, I can be positive. As long as we get that decisive fourth goal and keep a clean sheet. And there's only a few minutes left. And they're down to nine men.

Actually, the Yid in me is still thinking, it could still happen to Spurs.

 

[talkshowhost86]

If our last 'Spursy' moment had been 10 years ago I'd agree.

But it was less than 10 games ago, so I think it's understandable.

 

[Shadydan]

If our last 'Spursy' moment had been 10 years ago I'd agree.

But it was less than 10 games ago, so I think it's understandable.

I don't know....

I mean the Newcastle match could be considered 'Spursy' but for comparisons sake 2005/6 season and 2011/12 season are far more Spursy then you think. I mean when the dust blew over and when Arsenal fans stopped lolling at us we still had a brilliant season which was unexpected and we still qualified for the CL so I'd say that wasn't traditionally Spursy.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I don't know....

I mean the Newcastle match could be considered 'Spursy' but for comparisons sake 2005/6 season and 2011/12 season are far more Spursy then you think. I mean when the dust blew over and when Arsenal fans stopped lolling at us we still had a brilliant season which was unexpected and we still qualified for the CL so I'd say that wasn't traditionally Spursy.

I completely agree, but this team clearly had a bit of a mental collapse at the end of last season so that's why people still fear it could happen again.

Last season surpassed all expectations, but we should have ultimately done better so I can see why people are worried that we still have that type of performance in us.

But this team is made of hardier stuff now. If they can do it for a whole season, we may have to consider being optimistic every now and again.

 

[Dougal]

I think we could win the league and still spend too long thinking about the games we lost. But that's what makes us Spurs fans. If our team was as defensive as we've had to be over the years we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[dagraham]

I mean the players mentalities have which was pretty much instilled my the management so when will the fans? I'm talking about dreading going into a tough match like West Brom for example and actually thinking that we'd get something out of it...because it seems like there are still quite a number of fans who look forward to matches with dread?

I know it's deeply ingrained into out Tottenham DNA, yes it was true that Tottenham used to always let you down and if Tottenham didn't let you down there was always an outside influence (lasagnate, 4th place 2011/12) okay yes fair enough and also Tottenham were a bit 'Spursy' (I really despise that fucking word) at the end of last season...Yeah yeah Newcastle blah blah

BUT

Surely by now the tide is shifting where we are beginning to act like a top team, I mean the evidence is overwhelmingly pointing towards it... does anyone think any of our players are bricking it at the prospect of facing Solomon Rondon? Do you think our players throw hissy fits at poch claiming he get it wrong when they see the team lineup before the matches? Do you reckon they expect to get rolled over by one of the bigger sides before they face them...nah me neither so why do the fans?

So yeah...Spurs fans, isn't it time to man up a little rather than marinating in self wallowing and pity and bemoaning something which happened 10 years ago, we're a different side now so yeah can we stop being pussies please, cheers

* Cue us getting totally spanked by Brom tomorrow

It's a fair question and I am certainly more optimistic than I used to be but I think you've answered your own question in the second paragraph of your post.

Many instances of us failing to finish the job off and actually delivering when it matters or failing to live up to being favourites ( which is a different type of pressure). Or imploding when in a commanding position.

Some of these things happened only as recently as the end of last season, so until we lay the ghost and finally deliver Spurs fans will always be understandably reticent to drop the pessimistic thoughts.

 

[yankspurs]

Reminder: Only 5 months ago, we managed to finish 3rd when we were in a 2 horse title race.

 

[E17yid]

Lads, it's Tottenham.

 

[riggi]

Actually win something then I'll start to have faith.

 

[Dougal]

Reminder: Only 5 months ago, we managed to finish 3rd when we were in a 2 horse title race.

This one irks me a bit. It was two teams for the title, but three teams for second place. In the end we got neither. But then earlier in the season it was a four horse race and we weren't even mentioned. It's just people counting their chickens. Or horses. Or sheep... zzzz...

 

[Dougal]

Actually win something then I'll start to have faith.

That's just a trap, we'd follow it up with relegation.

 

[mike_l]

Surely that sense of dread is healthy, lest you become the type of bratty entitled supporter that follows Chelsea, United and Liverpool? You're only setting yourself up for a gall anyway, and whilst it's good for the players to have confidence, I hope that they don't approach these games thinking it's a given that they will win.

 

[HildoSpur]

We desperately need to win something to start to believe more I think - I'd take any silverware at all to start us off.