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Who would you replace Avb with if you had the chance?

Wheeler Dealer

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He's also won Serie A five times, La Liga twice & the Champion's League.

But apparently he's "not good enough" because he had to use an England side with Matthew fucking Upson as a starter.

Capello's record should be where it is as he's managed top draw teams who in most cases were the best in the league.

We ain't the best in the league or the best in London so why would he do well here when he has managed average teams - England his record is less impressive
 

CornerPinDreamer

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Laudrup -massively overrated
Klinsman -useless
Hoddle -useless and terrible man manager
Mancini -useless
Capello -boring hand made Italian robot drone with even more boring conservative defensive football
FDB - No idea, roll of the dice

Sure there's better options Than those being mentioned in press

you mean you don;t demand avb back?



wow :)
 

hybridsoldier

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Laudrup -massively overrated
Klinsman -useless
Hoddle -useless and terrible man manager
Mancini -useless
Capello -boring hand made Italian robot drone with even more boring conservative defensive football
FDB - No idea, roll of the dice

Sure there's better options Than those being mentioned in press

I have to say that I agree with this.

Laudrup has done well at Swansea and other smaller sides in his career, I think the calibre of player at Spurs is a step up and I am not sure he has the humility and managerial skills to succeed.

Klinsmann is a great motivator of players but tactics, scouting, training, these are important areas he'd need an absolutely world class no.2 (Like he had at Germany with Joachim Loew)

Hoddle is knowledgable about the game and a decent tactician but his man-management skills are terrible.

Mancini ego is bigger than the players

Capello was successful in an era long gone and the players are of a different mentality now, the game has also moved on

Frank de Boer is en route to a 4th successive Eredivisie title but come one this is a not a great league and you don't have the challenges you get week in week out in the Premier League. It's a massive massive gamble.

Pochettino has done well but the expectations are low at Southampton. He doesn't speak full english, at least in the press, and after the Ramos fiasco Levy said he learned a massive lesson in how important communication is in management. I think this would be a real panic appointment and could only see it failing.

And we usually end posts like this by saying who we think should get the job...........I have no idea.

Really, genuinely no idea. Someone who looks the biz like Klopp won't leave until the summer, and why would trade Dortmund for the impossible job anyway? Sadly the best option looks to be waiting until the summer...so another season written off!
 

spurs9

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He's also won Serie A five times, La Liga twice & the Champion's League.

But apparently he's "not good enough" because he had to use an England side with Matthew fucking Upson as a starter.

We would be even more boring than under AVB here is a blurb about his time at Real:

He quickly drew the disdain of Real's ardent supporters because of his defensive playing style. In interviews, Capello responded to those critics by saying that the beauty of attacking plays was old. He said that results were much more important than playing beautifully. He also added that "those days are over."
 

hellava_tough

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What about someone who has won La Liga twice, the European Cup once, was a legend of the game, plays attacking football, speaks English and is currently without a managerial job?

EDIT Shit, just seen that someone already mentioned Rijkaard :)

Anyway, yeah, he'd be worth a punt
 

brownhead

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It's simple - Martinez!!
Although he prob won't come and this makes me like him even more, due to being loyal. Knows the game, good with players, good football, prem experience. No brainer for me
 

hellava_tough

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It's simple - Martinez!!
Although he prob won't come and this makes me like him even more, due to being loyal. Knows the game, good with players, good football, prem experience. No brainer for me

Like you said, I don't think he would come because of the loyalty. TBH, we'd have to pay Everton an absolute stak to get him too.

I really do believe Rijkaard is the best option available right now. Of course, after the world cup there may be other managers available, but right now it has to be Dutch Frank
 

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http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnatio...nham-hotspur-manager-shortlist-frank-de-boer?
Frank de Boer, Manager of Ajax
Career Record: 82 W - 26 D - 27 L for a 60.74 win percentage.

Accomplishments: de Boer has won the Eredivisie three times, which isn't bad for a guy who has only been a manager for three seasons. His work in 2012 and 2013 earned him manager of the year awards and he was also an assistant for the Netherlands at the 2010World Cup, where the Dutch made it to the final. His resume isn't very long, but it is about as long as it can get for someone who has only been managing for three years.

Before he was manager: A 20-year playing career saw de Boer go from Ajax to Barcelona to Galatasaray before finishing his career with stints at Rangers and two clubs in the Qatari League. In addition to the 519 matches he played at the club level, de Boer also had 112 caps for the Netherlands, the most for a Dutch field player. That international career included two World Cups and three Euros. He played all across the back line, beginning as a left back and making a name for himself as a centerback, where his role was as close to a sweeper as we have seen at the top level in the last 20 years. All of that for an undersized player who wasn't exceptionally fast either. Unsurprisingly, every compliment of de Boer the player included some reference to how smart he was.

Tactical analysis: Managing for Ajax doesn't leave de Boer with a lot of wiggle room on formation. Whatever he plays, it has to be some variation of 4-3-3 per club policy/directive/religion, but de Boer has show pretty good flexibility within the prescribed 4-3-3. He has played ones that look closer to a 4-1-4-1, 4-1-2-3 and a 4-3-1-2. His preference is to play with a true defensive midfielder and a pretty attacking front five, which would seem to fit in well at Spurs. Of course, playing that way in the Eredivisie is very different from doing so in the Premier League, but he has shown flexibility in who he puts into which spots -- for example switching between Christian Poulsen and Daley Blind as holders -- which could be a hint that he is willing to adjust to a more competitive league.
 

hellava_tough

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http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnatio...nham-hotspur-manager-shortlist-frank-de-boer?
Frank de Boer, Manager of Ajax
Career Record: 82 W - 26 D - 27 L for a 60.74 win percentage.

Accomplishments: de Boer has won the Eredivisie three times, which isn't bad for a guy who has only been a manager for three seasons. His work in 2012 and 2013 earned him manager of the year awards and he was also an assistant for the Netherlands at the 2010World Cup, where the Dutch made it to the final. His resume isn't very long, but it is about as long as it can get for someone who has only been managing for three years.

Before he was manager: A 20-year playing career saw de Boer go from Ajax to Barcelona to Galatasaray before finishing his career with stints at Rangers and two clubs in the Qatari League. In addition to the 519 matches he played at the club level, de Boer also had 112 caps for the Netherlands, the most for a Dutch field player. That international career included two World Cups and three Euros. He played all across the back line, beginning as a left back and making a name for himself as a centerback, where his role was as close to a sweeper as we have seen at the top level in the last 20 years. All of that for an undersized player who wasn't exceptionally fast either. Unsurprisingly, every compliment of de Boer the player included some reference to how smart he was.

Tactical analysis: Managing for Ajax doesn't leave de Boer with a lot of wiggle room on formation. Whatever he plays, it has to be some variation of 4-3-3 per club policy/directive/religion, but de Boer has show pretty good flexibility within the prescribed 4-3-3. He has played ones that look closer to a 4-1-4-1, 4-1-2-3 and a 4-3-1-2. His preference is to play with a true defensive midfielder and a pretty attacking front five, which would seem to fit in well at Spurs. Of course, playing that way in the Eredivisie is very different from doing so in the Premier League, but he has shown flexibility in who he puts into which spots -- for example switching between Christian Poulsen and Daley Blind as holders -- which could be a hint that he is willing to adjust to a more competitive league.

I guess if we couldn't get Dutch Frank, I'd be happy with Dutch Frank :)
 

RuskyM

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de Boer, Hiddink or bust to be honest with you.

I've had no more than a passive interest in us for the past few weeks and I'm not sure I'll even bother if we stick with Tim fucking Sherwood for the next six months. I just can't be arsed putting time and money into something that only seems to make me disappointed and empty.
 

WhiteHart4Ever

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Amazed to find people talking about Martinez (of course he's not leaving Everton now), and being sceptical to Frank de Boer - he's the best we can hope for, and I fear it'll be much worse..
 

sim0n

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same blokes I suggested when Redknapp was let go in general, but not so available now:

Rudi Garcia - now at Roma, no dice
Guus Hiddink - agent not too keen, but might be a nice interim manager until June
Lucien Favre - Borussia Moenchengladbach
Marco Van Basten - Heerenveen,... at least Spurs would be scoring again...

who knows, we'll see who DL pulls out of the hat this time...
 
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heirov

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Just think that perhaps the best way now is to go interim till the end of the season, with a brief of meeting the CL qualification target. Very much like the January window for players, don't think they are much value of top/preferred club European managers out there now, with all at their own clubs. Then in the summer, hopefully with CL qualification in the bag, should we still want that someone out of Europe, we can start approaching clubs for your Klopps or De Boers and what have you. But even if with we end up with no CL next season, would think there's no harm approaching those managers either. We don't have CL now anyway if we want to attract the big/preferred names now, its no different.. I just think that a) summer makes it easier to negotiate with clubs for their managers and b) the new manager wants funds so if he comes in before January, surely we cant go and spend again, what with 7 players still settling in and a massive squad to juggle around.
 
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