Why's Sandro not playing If he's fit???

[whitesocks]

Our chief spin doctor says Sandro is fit.
Sandro also says he's fit.
The ITKs say he's fit.

But we have seen him this season and he has never looked fully match fit.
If he were approaching fitness, then he'd be coming on as a sub at the very least.

I don't believe he has had a row with Sherwood.
In my opinion he is just not fit.

The WC has gone for him, but that is the least of his problems.
He should now take time out to fully recover from whatever it is.
Or strengthen the bits that need it.

He has enough credit with us to have a poor season, but if he has another next season...

 

[The Spurs Lad]

Our chief spin doctor says Sandro is fit.
Sandro also says he's fit.
The ITKs say he's fit.

But we have seen him this season and he has never looked fully match fit.
If he were approaching fitness, then he'd be coming on as a sub at the very least.

I don't believe he has had a row with Sherwood.
In my opinion he is just not fit.

The WC has gone for him, but that is the least of his problems.
He should now take time out to fully recover from whatever it is.
Or strengthen the bits that need it.

He has enough credit with us to have a poor season, but if he has another next season...

This is Tim Sherwood, common logic is out the window.

 

[Shanks]

Your perception.

Based on 5-10 minutes of accumulated youtube clips in which he is having a laugh and helping others to have a laugh (or "dicking around", if you're determined to judge him critically).

Amazes me if some people can't understand that a person can be simultaneously effervescent and incredibly hard working and conscientious.

And you may be right that he hasn't been fit and hasn't been at his best this year. But that's no reason for some people to be slagging him off for just being himself and for bringing a bit of joy and laughter to the dressing room.

I'm not slagging him off, just saying that what Tim Sherwood said wasn't as bad as it's being made to be.

Keep condescending all you like though pal.

Laughter and joy with success is a good thing, I've not had much to laugh about this year though.

 

[Shanks]

while Sandro can as you put it dick around, did you see the video he made while recovering from his injury?

trains hard, but still has fun

And it's great to see when it comes into fruition. Something I've not seen this season. That's the point I'm making and struggling to understand why people defend the opposite.

Team plays shit - manager is a joke.
Players 'dicking' around having fun and showing very little desire to succeed on the pitch - defend them to the hilt.

Because they bring a bit of fun??

Seriously..... Because I'd Prather have a team of people that come Saturday do the business on the pitch after applying the graft midweek. Serious winners.

 

[jambreck]

I'm not slagging him off, just saying that what Tim Sherwood said wasn't as bad as it's being made to be.

Keep condescending all you like though pal.

Laughter and joy with success is a good thing, I've not had much to laugh about this year though.

Condescending?

Because I disagreed with you?

Oh, please....

BTW, I didn't say that you had slagged him off for having a bit of a lark (though describing his behaviour as "dicking around" is hardly complimentary). But others most certainly have done so. And that's just silly.

 

[chrissivad]

has Sandro ever dicked around and not shown desire on the pitch?

he hasnt had a good season, very stop start that hasnt helped. Cant defend him on his second comment on twitter either, both come out of this poorly.

 

[Shanks]

Condescending?

Because I disagreed with you?

Oh, please....

BTW, I didn't say that you had slagged him off for having a bit of a lark (though describing his behaviour as "dicking around" is hardly complimentary). But others most certainly have done so. And that's just silly.

Your condescending posts about not understanding.... It's there written fella.

I I'd agree though that slagging players off is silly, and I hope he does go on to be successful for us, rather then just the odd game.

Dicking around, simple means - joking/mucking around, or having fun, nothing more sinister other than how I express that particular phrase.

 

[Shanks]

has Sandro ever dicked around and not shown desire on the pitch?

he hasnt had a good season, very stop start that hasnt helped. Cant defend him on his second comment on twitter either, both come out of this poorly.

I don't think many players have shown desire this year. Ultimately accountability is on the managers shoulders for that though, but the players are responsible for the on the pitch part.

 

[Gedson100]

People need to separate:

Sandro: the great guy, good for a laugh, Spurs loyalist, 2012/13 (til January) beast player

from

Sandro: the totally stop start 2013/14, hasn't shown any form since a massive knee injury, down the pecking order player.

What Tim said wasn't incorrect, he just phrased it in a way that massively wound fans up, because, y'know, he's fucking terrible at talking to the media.
Sandro is down the pecking order right now & hasn't shown solid form since his injury. If only Tim could have managed to state this without coming across like a complete knob, there'd be no issue.

 

[EQP]

Not sure if this has been brought up but didn't Tim also say that Holtby was one of the/ if not best trainers on the team, yet Holtby hardly started a game under Tim.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/28/tottenham-tim-sherwood-lewis-holtby

"I like Lewis, he is a good lad and one of the best trainers we've got. But having played the game myself I understand all players want to play. And if they are not getting a lot of opportunities, sometimes you have to be fair to the players," he said.

I'm really confused now.

 

[jambreck]

Your condescending posts about not understanding.... It's there written fella.

I I'd agree though that slagging players off is silly, and I hope he does go on to be successful for us, rather then just the odd game.

Dicking around, simple means - joking/mucking around, or having fun, nothing more sinister other than how I express that particular phrase.

There was nothing condescending about it.

Some people have been slagging Sandro off for his humorous antics and suggesting that he should concentrate on playing better. It's perfectly clear from such posts that they don't understand that someone can be simultaneously effervescent and conscientious.

 

[stevespurs]

What Sandro should have said is that "he has to work his way back into the team, as he is fit". It did look a little like a petulant dig at being dropped.

Sandro may not have given up on making the world cup squad. His performances this season have not guaranteed him his spot on the Spurs team sheet though.

He has had a tough year with injury and then a lack of games/fitness. He definitely has not re-captured his best form yet. Although a good pre-season will help, he is the team's funny man off the pitch, and our Beast on the pitch. I hope to see him firing for next season.

 

[Spurger King]

People need to separate:

Sandro: the great guy, good for a laugh, Spurs loyalist, 2012/13 (til January) beast player

from

Sandro: the totally stop start 2013/14, hasn't shown any form since a massive knee injury, down the pecking order player.

What Tim said wasn't incorrect, he just phrased it in a way that massively wound fans up, because, y'know, he's fucking terrible at talking to the media.
Sandro is down the pecking order right now & hasn't shown solid form since his injury. If only Tim could have managed to state this without coming across like a complete knob, there'd be no issue.

Hardly any of our players have shown solid form this season. Sandro has been up and down, but has certainly shown on occasions that he's still more than capable of playing at his pre-injury level.

He's also been part of an incredibly unsettled midfield (and team for that matter), and getting sporadic periods of playing time. Put him in a settled side for a sustained period and I'm sure he'd prove himself to still be one of our most valuable players.

And that's why I find Sherwood's comment, and the fact that he's dropped him from the squad, so infuriating. Sandro is one of the few assets at the club, and in my opinion our most important central midfielder. Since Sherwood started to show how inept he is at man management I've been waiting for Sandro to become the next player to be pissed off....and dreading it. For me, he's as important as Lloris and Eriksen, and anything that might push him out should be avoided at all costs.

How many players in our squad are publicly or allegedly pissed off right now?

Lloris - already sounding very hesitant about committing to the club next season.

Benny - exiled to the championship in favour of Danny Rose - Danny fucking Rose.

Vertonghen - sounds like he wants to leave. Hated being played out of position. Now just seems to hate playing.

Capoue - already criticised Sherwood's attitude, and the lack of respect he's been shown. Dropped.

Holtby - confused about why he was farmed out to Fulham.

Paulinho - has looked increasingly miserable.

Dembele - rumoured to have had a bust-up with Sherwood.

Lamela? - Even before the injury he must have been regretting signing for us.

It's also hard to see how Townsend, Siggy, or Soldado could be particularly enjoying life at Spurs right now.

The above list isn't about who is to blame (a mix of AVB, Sherwood, unfortunate circumstances, and their own performances), but it illustrates the general unrest and low morale in the club. We can now add Sandro to that list, and Sherwood's comments have only served to make things a lot worse. He must be particularly thick to not realise the extent of the disharmony in the squad, so telling one of our most important players that right now he's not considered good enough to even make the bench is just pure idiocy.

All eyes on Levy this summer. The guy needs to make the right decisions when it comes to bringing in a new manager, keeping our best player (many of whom probably want to leave), and signing the right players. My personal feeling is that Levy will fuck up in all three areas, and we'll end up with the wrong manager, key players leaving, and downgrades replacing them.

 

[plashy]

For what it's worth, Jacob has just said "Lamela, Holtby, Vlad, Sandro, Capoue, Vertonghen. #byebye #dimtim"

 

[yawa]

For what it's worth, Jacob has just said "Lamela, Holtby, Vlad, Sandro, Capoue, Vertonghen. #byebye #dimtim"

Seeing there's pretty much no chance we'd sell all those I'm guessing that's a list of people Tim doesn't like for whatever reason.

 

[Mustard]

Sandro has been pretty poor this season. At times he's been a liability.

The manager felt he wasn't good enough to play then that's enough for me. I think a lot of fans look at him through beast coloured spectacles. Bit like the disco Benny syndrome.

No player should expect to play by reputation alone.

 

[Spurger King]

Seeing there's pretty much no chance we'd sell all those I'm guessing that's a list of people Tim doesn't like for whatever reason.

I doubt Levy would have made any decisions on who we'll be selling. I suspect that several players would be looking to leave, but are probably also waiting to see who we bring in to manage the club (I won't say 'new manager', as I've not seen any evidence that Sherwood is managing things at all).

Just seems like a list of players that Sherwood has pissed off, from an 'ITK' with an extremely dubious reputation (he was never afforded 'ITK' status on SO).

 

[Flashspur]

two sides to every story innit but you can see some of the players frustrations building....still the manager, whoever it is, makes the final call...

 

[Mustard]

I doubt Levy would have made any decisions on who we'll be selling. I suspect that several players would be looking to leave, but are probably also waiting to see who we bring in to manage the club (I won't say 'new manager', as I've not seen any evidence that Sherwood is managing things at all).

Just seems like a list of players that Sherwood has pissed off, from an 'ITK' with an extremely dubious reputation (he was never afforded 'ITK' status on SO).

I don't know why these players would leave?

With the exception of Hugo I doubt any of them would get a bigger or better club than they are at now. They are living in London. Thats a big draw in itself. Our training facilities are up there with the best in the world. They are in the pl being paid the best wages they will probably ever get.

Despite our shitty season we are still a draw and among the elite of Europe even if we can't offer cl football.

 

[cookiemonster]

Why the endless debate over the ginger and timothy

They are both shit