Scott Spur
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As for Leighton Baines......he may defend well, but there is no way he is gonna get near winning the 'Sideshow Bob Lookalike Contest', that one is going to the wire between Benny and David Luis 
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kungfugrip
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I actually think that would be one of his strengths. He has balls as well - dropped his captain Phil Neville for a few games when he wasn't playing well.
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Agree, and this is always a concern when stepping up in managerial rank. Not sure how to prevent the potential downside for a club tho, except to do your homework on the manager-to-be and take a bit of a leap of faith. Short of a crystal ball or having a ton of dough to outspend your mistakes (Chelsea), this is how every team in every sport chooses new managers.
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Since last year an agent has told me that if Harry goes to manage England (because that was the original plan, that after Euro 2012, Capello's work would have ended and he would have been replaced and Harry was still the man touted at that time) then Capello would be considered at THFC.
I believe the goat's info in regards to Moyes but I will add that Capello will also be considered and so too Rafa Benitez and Didier Deschamps.
Moyes may be the favorite but the others will also submit their names.
I personally believe that IF Harry goes, then it'll be between Moyes and Capello.
I believe the goat's info in regards to Moyes but I will add that Capello will also be considered and so too Rafa Benitez and Didier Deschamps.
Moyes may be the favorite but the others will also submit their names.
I personally believe that IF Harry goes, then it'll be between Moyes and Capello.
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But would van Gaal or Capello stick around for five years, because we're going to need stability. Moyes would bring that. As for playing 'the Spurs way', I'm afraid that's only won us 2 league titles in 130 years. Whisper it....it appears the Spurs way doesn't work.
Both have acheived everything there is to already. Where is left to go? Both have managed Madrid/Barca. Both have won league titles in their own and other countries. Both have done international football.
van Gaal actually is a long term manager - just look at the dynasty he built at Ajax in the early-mid 90s. Similarly Capello at Milan.
I know Capello isn't much younger than Redknapp, but he seems in better health etc.
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Harsh but true.
I was a massive believer in Harry before he started. I had been saying for years that when you look at the list of players that have come into the game in England through him, it's incredible. I have always said Harry is one of the best judges of ability in the game. The way he got Pompey playing and to what he did with a club that small in the cup was a fantastic achievement.
If he has blown it for himself at Spurs over this England/contract thing, then its a big shame. His relationship with the media is his best weapon and greatest enemy.
I made a pessimistic prediction of Moyes based on his track record. If he comes, he'll be a Spurs manager and I'll believe in him to do better. Right now he isn't Spurs manager and there is no proof that he would be a good Spurs manager.
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I wish to God we were dour enough to score four goals at Old Trafford !!
I think if this does happen it is not about this year or next year, it is not about a "top" coach for a year or two, they only come with a substantial transfer budget anyway, it is about a new beginning, it is about the start of our future, make no mistake Dvid Moyes has proved his preference to create something and keep building it over the long term.
If he really is available then it may even be preferential to bring him anyway.
I think if this does happen it is not about this year or next year, it is not about a "top" coach for a year or two, they only come with a substantial transfer budget anyway, it is about a new beginning, it is about the start of our future, make no mistake Dvid Moyes has proved his preference to create something and keep building it over the long term.
If he really is available then it may even be preferential to bring him anyway.
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I did start to think that the latest goat info was big, as I presumed it was from JJ. When the Goat first started posting his stuff, a disclaimer was put at the start of anything that wasn't his info, and that unless specified we should presume its his.
But as its not his info it could be absolute toilet. I could live with both scenarios mind you.
But as its not his info it could be absolute toilet. I could live with both scenarios mind you.
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Do you really believe that?
Moyes at Everton has had nothing to spend for about 6 or seven seasons. On top of that, the squad he had built, and was doing very well with, has been systematically asset stripped since then. Almost every pre-season he loses one of his best players, which must affect his plans, and you have to speculate how much of an impact that has on their early season form. I just don't buy into this at all.
kungfugrip
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Fair enough, but I wouldn't underestimate Moyes' hunger to succeed. He must be champing at the bit for a crack at a big club with good players and a transfer kitty. Capello and van Gaal as you say have been there, done that and might just want one last pay day. Moyes has EVERYTHING to prove, those guys don't and I wonder about their hunger. Capello taking the 'part time' England job a few years ago suggests to me that his motivation is lower and has one foot in the retirement village already.
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To be fair, it has been pretty much constant turmoil since 26 February.
The noises about Verts have been the only glimmer in the darkness around the club for the last 3.5 months.
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On the flip-side he'd only really be considered for United if he did a good job at Spurs. If that's the case we'd hopefully be in a good position to bring in a decent manager, so whilst it's not ideal it's certainly not a terrible possibility.
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I think Ferguson keeps saying Moyes will replace him to keep his own position secure. If he says it will be Mourinho then the fans might start pushing for the transfer sooner rather than later.
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If you watched Everton regularly, you would know that it is a myth that they constantly play dour football.
If you want to assess Moyes, you have to consider that he has had no money to spend for 6 or 7 years, and the squad he built, that got them quite far and that playing some decent football (I know, I watched, I remember), has been systemeatically asset stripped. And you should also consider that very often this involves a major player been sold in pre-season, disrupting the manager's plans, and just might explain, or partially explain, the slow starts.
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Possibly true about Capello. But for me van Gaal showed, especially by taking the AZ job, that he's still hungary for fresh challenges.
If anything, van Gaal's ego wouldn't let him do anything half-heartedly or unsuccessfully.
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Whatever you might think about Harry's behaviour over the last few months, he does play football the "Spurs way". If we're not keeping Harry, Moyes isn't a bad choice. Capello has had a lot of money to play with over the years, but still plays a boring game and I don't think he'd be a popular/wise choice. Martinez has been fed the same amount of scraps as Moyes and does a sterling job, but Moyes has proved himself time after time after time. Top 10 finishes year after year. I've got my reservations but I'd still choose him over the other candidates every time. With Spurs' players and given half the chance, Moyes might surprise us all.
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Who: The Goat
When: 11th June
Where: SC
The Goat hears that Moyes IS a name that is being considered, but there are other names in the frame (I wasn't told who) and although its looking more likely that Harry will go, nothing has been decided yet. The interesting thing is that i'm also hearing Leighton Baines name being mentioned, it seems Benny has upset someone.........
Wow, never considered Leighton Baines as our manager before. Could work I guess....
When: 11th June
Where: SC
The Goat hears that Moyes IS a name that is being considered, but there are other names in the frame (I wasn't told who) and although its looking more likely that Harry will go, nothing has been decided yet. The interesting thing is that i'm also hearing Leighton Baines name being mentioned, it seems Benny has upset someone.........
Wow, never considered Leighton Baines as our manager before. Could work I guess....
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