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THFC 1882

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Overmars, the former Gunners winger, is said to have had a good relationship with Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy in the past.
 

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I have reservations about Pochetino too. I like much of what I see from his team but also some aspects worry me. His teams look good going forward but less convincing going backwards, they have only conceded 6 goals less than us despite us being tonked by Liverpool twice (-9), City twice(-11), Chelsea(-4) and they have on balance no worse a bunch of defenders than we do.


I think we will really be missing a great chance if we let DeBoer go elsewhere. He was a winner as a player, winner as a manager so far, he's well schooled in a development of your own players integration policy, the philosophy that the first team plays the same brand of football as the youth teams, doesn't rely on huge budget transfers and has been at his last job for 4 years, so isn't a fly-by-night mercenary.
 

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I have reservations about Pochetino too. I like much of what I see from his team but also some aspects worry me. His teams look good going forward but less convincing going backwards, they have only conceded 6 goals less than us despite us being tonked by Liverpool twice (-9), City twice(-11), Chelsea(-4) and they have on balance no worse a bunch of defenders than we do.


I think we will really be missing a great chance if we let DeBoer go elsewhere. He was a winner as a player, winner as a manager so far, he's well schooled in a development of your own players integration policy, the philosophy that the first team plays the same brand of football as the youth teams, doesn't rely on huge budget transfers and has been at his last job for 4 years, so isn't a fly-by-night mercenary.

Genuine question though BC - you say his team looks less convincing going backwards, which is a fair concern, but what makes you think FDB's style of play would transmit well enough to this group of players?

And another point, FDB would want to impose his style right through out the Club wouldn't he? Which might not appeal to Levy who enjoys such a hand on approach. So if FDB was appointed on terms that limited his ability as a manager it could well compromise his effectiveness, if that makes sense?

Just thinking out loads in terms of the criteria Levy could possibly be using when assessing and considering the different candidates and who would be likely to be the best fit - from Levy's point of view just to be clear!
 

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I have reservations about Pochetino too. I like much of what I see from his team but also some aspects worry me. His teams look good going forward but less convincing going backwards, they have only conceded 6 goals less than us despite us being tonked by Liverpool twice (-9), City twice(-11), Chelsea(-4) and they have on balance no worse a bunch of defenders than we do.


I think we will really be missing a great chance if we let DeBoer go elsewhere. He was a winner as a player, winner as a manager so far, he's well schooled in a development of your own players integration policy, the philosophy that the first team plays the same brand of football as the youth teams, doesn't rely on huge budget transfers and has been at his last job for 4 years, so isn't a fly-by-night mercenary.
Don't forget a strong supporting cast of Bergkamp and Stam - how much could our squad learn from these three winners?!
 

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Genuine question though BC - you say his team looks less convincing going backwards, which is a fair concern, but what makes you think FDB's style of play would transmit well enough to this group of players?

And another point, FDB would want to impose his style right through out the Club wouldn't he? Which might not appeal to Levy who enjoys such a hand on approach. So if FDB was appointed on terms that limited his ability as a manager it could well compromise his effectiveness, if that makes sense?

Just thinking out loads in terms of the criteria Levy could possibly be using when assessing and considering the different candidates and who would be likely to be the best fit - from Levy's point of view just to be clear!

But we already have a very uniformed and similar structure to the one he has at Ajax at all levels up to the U21s. And they are playing a very similar brand of football (high tempo 433) that Ajax teach and play.

This is what draws me to fdb, he seems the best fit, the best candidate to sync the development to the first team ad well as being a winner.

I couldn't even begin to second guess Levy's thinking on this, but if I were him I'd be thinking maybe it's time we adopted this bottom to top philosophy completely, rather than having the first team completely disjointed (AVB) or managed by an idiot who makes choices for the wrong reasons (Sherwood).

If he does like the idea then I can't think of a better man than FDB.
 

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I like De Boer because he was an intelligent player and so far seems to be a very intelligent manager.
I like his attitude and the fact that he is a coach first and manager second.
He wants to be on the training pitch everyday working with his players and he wants to leave behind a legacy...so people can look at the work done at Spurs and acknowledge the hand of Frank De Boer behind it all.
I just love that.
 

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I have reservations about Pochetino too. I like much of what I see from his team but also some aspects worry me. His teams look good going forward but less convincing going backwards, they have only conceded 6 goals less than us despite us being tonked by Liverpool twice (-9), City twice(-11), Chelsea(-4) and they have on balance no worse a bunch of defenders than we do.


I think we will really be missing a great chance if we let DeBoer go elsewhere. He was a winner as a player, winner as a manager so far, he's well schooled in a development of your own players integration policy, the philosophy that the first team plays the same brand of football as the youth teams, doesn't rely on huge budget transfers and has been at his last job for 4 years, so isn't a fly-by-night mercenary.

I agree De Boer looks like he could be the real deal but being at Ajax has helped him a hell of a lot, they have developed top players for decades and havent had to rely on transfer budgets. As for not being a mercenary, that hs yet to be seen, his ambition is quite clear. He is obviously going to be loyal to Ajax, being there over 10 years as a player and from what we have seen of Verts and Eriksen they both love the club.

Being a winner as a player doesn't do much for me when it comes to being a good manager, yes you will have players respect but doesn't mean that translates into good managerial skills, Keane and Hughes say hi, and they learnt from the best club manager of our time. Also Ajax performances outside of Hollland are poor.

Im not saying I am against him just that all our candates have pros and cons its up to Levy to weigh up the risk.
 

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De Boer, "Inter? I haven't talked with them, but I prefer the Premier League Bundesliga, & La Liga." SD
 
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