Player watch: Christian Eriksen

Zummerzet Spur · Aug 6, 2019

Just thinking, if his hearts set on Spain why would he tie himself to a long term contract at United? If there was a release clause allowing him to leave for Spain for a sensible amount why can’t we offer a similar contract - he’d be playing CL football with us in the knowledge that if his dream move comes along it’s still a reality.

We must not sell this type of player to a direct premier league rival.

RichieS · Aug 6, 2019

ThfcLew said:
I imagine CE and his representatives were certain RM would be in for him. ZZ doesn't fancy him, prefers Pogba and it leaves us with a player who doesn't really want to be here and a potential scare of leaving on a free next season. I feel that the hierarchy at Spurs are trying to force him out to the highest bigger (even if a domestic rival) to show that nobody can disrespect the badge. If United pay the £60m and it's reinvested on top of GLC & RS - I'll be fine with it.

This is the thing that I can't work out about this situation - what is it that's led to him feeling like he doesn't want to be here, to the extent that he's apparently leaving to join a team generally seen as in something approaching disarray (with an inexperienced and unproven manager), even though he'd previously said he'd only leave for a clear step up?

talbot64 · Aug 6, 2019

Can we not just give him a deal that he will actually sign! Whilst we are at it get Jan, Toby and Dier to sign up to new deals as well

lukadownthelane · Aug 6, 2019

I actually feel sorry for CE. He’s clearly had his head turned by his agent who was probably given assurances for the last 2 years that RM or Barca are going to sign him. He then makes his statement to the press, which was a balanced and honest statement and then nothing happens.

He’s now in limbo and probably still being strung along by his agent, so is probably a bit fed up by it. The major issue with this is the position it leaves us in, but I’m almost certain this wasn’t CE’s plan.

If he goes to Man U I can only believe that is because he feels it is too awkward to stay and the club need to cash in to avoid a free.

The whole thing hasn’t been managed well and I’m sure the agent talking to other clubs is the major reason.

Yiddo1982 · Aug 6, 2019

He is at the peak of his powers and at his most valuable. If Madrid don't take him now, I doubt they ever will...

SpartanSpur · Aug 6, 2019

Zummerzet Spur said:
Just thinking, if his hearts set on Spain why would he tie himself to a long term contract at United? If there was a release clause allowing him to leave for Spain for a sensible amount why can’t we offer a similar contract - he’d be playing CL football with us in the knowledge that if his dream move comes along it’s still a reality.

We must not sell this type of player to a direct premier league rival.

I guess the question is whether this saga has burned bridges with Poch and/or the club, or if we have concerns he will be able to replicate his old form and commitment after missing out on his move. If either of them are true then the writing is on the wall.

If he signs for Utd that RM/Barca move is likely dead, is it worth it? He would never sign for Utd on an open market so why should he now? Speaking of which, Utd need to pay a proper fee for him if it happens because of this point.

Zummerzet Spur · Aug 6, 2019

lukadownthelane said:
I actually feel sorry for CE. He’s clearly had his head turned by his agent who was probably given assurances for the last 2 years that RM or Barca are going to sign him. He then makes his statement to the press, which was a balanced and honest statement and then nothing happens.

He’s now in limbo and probably still being strung along by his agent, so is probably a bit fed up by it. The major issue with this is the position it leaves us in, but I’m almost certain this wasn’t CE’s plan.

If he goes to Man U I can only believe that is because he feels it is too awkward to stay and the club need to cash in to avoid a free.

The whole thing hasn’t been managed well and I’m sure the agent talking to other clubs is the major reason.

Yep, this feels very, very plausible but surely there must be a way back with us as he’s not gone strike ala Bale.

Football agents really do seem to be the scum of the earth at times.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Utd rumours are just complete horse shit and CE has absolutely no plan to go there.

Donki · Aug 6, 2019

lukadownthelane said:
I actually feel sorry for CE. He’s clearly had his head turned by his agent who was probably given assurances for the last 2 years that RM or Barca are going to sign him. He then makes his statement to the press, which was a balanced and honest statement and then nothing happens.

He’s now in limbo and probably still being strung along by his agent, so is probably a bit fed up by it. The major issue with this is the position it leaves us in, but I’m almost certain this wasn’t CE’s plan.

If he goes to Man U I can only believe that is because he feels it is too awkward to stay and the club need to cash in to avoid a free.

The whole thing hasn’t been managed well and I’m sure the agent talking to other clubs is the major reason.

Really? The guy wants to leave Tottenham, if he wanted to sign the contract he would sign the contract, its really that simple, there is NO need to feel sorry for CE.

Kiedis · Aug 6, 2019

Ron Burgundy said:
Creater and finisher I'll give you - not sure I saw much of the previous bits last year

Agreed, it was his worst season at that part of the game, but it's generally something he's brought that's been vital too us. He held an absolute masterclass away at Barcelona though.

Finchyid · Aug 6, 2019

dagraham said:
Have to say I expected Juve to bid considering they were supposedly interested in him before.

I’m not that surprised Real aren’t that fussed. He doesn’t strike me as a Madrid type player. But while he may not be elite, he’s still the best playmaker we could have with the way we operate and selling him to Utd will instantly make them much stronger and us much weaker.

Dont disgagree but there are other variables. The situation may have impacted his relationship with Poch, this may mean we dont get the best out of him. Also the move to Utd could mean Pogba is off to RM, if they get Eriksen and lose Pogba I dont see that as them being stronger

RichieS · Aug 6, 2019

Haddock said:
I hate to join the doom brigare but selling Eriksen to United would be a disaster. Eriksen is an improvement on Pogba in my opinion first and foremost you can just look at the statistics; They both average 0.25 goals per game in the PL but Eriksen has a far superior assist and chances created stats. He's more disciplined, he runs more, he presses more, he plays more matches per season etc. Eriksen is just a much better "creator" in the PL and he's exactly what United needs right now. We would pretty much give United a missing piece in their puzzle.

I'm not dissing Pogba by the way. He's a world class talent but I don't feel like he has the work rate or attitude to ever fulfill his talent in Britain.

With Ndombele, Sessegnon + preferably both of GLC and Bruno Fernandes we'd still be a much better team in the long run. Yes, the long run I can absolutely see a scenario where we'd struggle the first part of the season due to all the new players to integrate and gel. Furthermore I'm not certain that Levy sees the financial sense in bringing in say both GLC + BF (...or a player of similar ilk). Right now I'd say the most likely scenario is that Eriksen goes and we'll sign Sessegnon and GLC.

At last, there's some serious hubris going around here. We barely managed to secure a top four finish last season and we have others than ourselves to thank for it. It will be a dog fight between us United, Arsenal and Chelsea. Which is perfectly fine because that's pretty much the level we're at right now. Yeah it's fun to laugh at United and Arsenals EL campaign but it's really a 50/50 toss wether we will be in the same situation next season.

You don't think there were any (significant) mitigating circumstances around that? We were well in the title race until the squad hit the wall just after Christmas - none of the rivals you mention were even close. And we don't have "others to thank for it". Our team did enough over the course of the whole season (we had a sensational first half) to finish in the top 4 on our own merit. The negative sentiment is a version of what often appears in match threads - when Spurs lose it's because they were rubbish and when they win it's because the opposition was rubbish - and it's just depressing.

For sure, losing Eriksen would weaken us and he would strengthen United. But if Liverpool can come so close to the title and win the CL 2 seasons after selling their equivalent (Coutinho), why couldn't we do the same?

I think United and Chelsea will both be hampered by their managers this season and, while they should still be respected, they just don't have the quality and cohesion across their squads that we do at the moment. Arsenal could run us close again, but I also expect us to be much closer to the eventual winners (Man City) this season as well.

SE Spurs · Aug 6, 2019

No way he's going to Utd, surely ain't happening. Don't see any benefit for him going there other than cash, and he'd have signed extended deals with us, if he was all about the money. And unless he's a boyhood Utd fan, I can't see it happening.
He's not gonna get forced to go anywhere either, and he'll see out his contract if it comes to it, and make his own choice imo.

philll · Aug 6, 2019

wrd said:
So would Levy I bet

We're a bit fucked here tbh. It's all very well saying "sell him abroad" but we can't "sell him abroad" if nobody abroad shows any interest in buying him before our window shuts. We could wait until after Thursday and try to flog him on the continent but will Levy spend north of £100m without having the money in the bank from a big sale? Will he bollocks. Therefore, Eriksen has to go before our deadline if we stand any chance of buying. If the only club showing interest is in England, I'm sure Levy would sell.

lukadownthelane · Aug 6, 2019

Donki said:
Really? The guy wants to leave Tottenham, if he wanted to sign the contract he would sign the contract, its really that simple, there is NO need to feel sorry for CE.

Personally feel that’s an over simplification for a career decision for a non Spurs fan

FibreOpticJesus · Aug 6, 2019

TheVoiceofReason said:
Happy for him to leave now. Great player when he’s bothered but last year he was largely unbothered and this preseason he’s taken two of the worlds wettest penalties which just about summed his whole attitude up.

To be fair I do not think it is his attitude as that infers that his approach is premeditated. I think you will find it is his mental fragility which is a problem for a lot of players these days. If he goes to Manure it would be the latter that would worry me if I was them. Unfortunately in my opinion neither BF or GLC are capable of replacing his vision. But at least the others can tackle.

wrd · Aug 6, 2019

philll said:
We're a bit fucked here tbh. It's all very well saying "sell him abroad" but we can't "sell him abroad" if nobody abroad shows any interest in buying him before our window shuts. We could wait until after Thursday and try to flog him on the continent but will Levy spend north of £100m without having the money in the bank from a big sale? Will he bollocks. Therefore, Eriksen has to go before our deadline if we stand any chance of buying. If the only club showing interest is in England, I'm sure Levy would sell.

The only people that are going to be happy in this situation are Man United, this isn't good for Levy, Poch, Spurs as a whole or Eriksen and his agent. That's why I'm never going to jump on the he's dead to me bandwagon.

Deleted member 22380 · Aug 6, 2019

mrlilywhite said:
Man Utd have plenty of cash, but surely signing Eriksen (hoping that levy rinses them for at least £70m) must hinge totally on either selling Pogba and or Lukaku? When you think that they have shelled out £130m already - buying Eriksen would push that past £200m! I have my doubts, with the time left that they manage to sell Pogba and or Lukaku imo.

What if Eriksen is swapped for Lukaku? We would get a proper backup for Kane and there would be some games they would play together as a front 2. He would be an upgrade on Llorente for sure.

We would still need to sign Fernandes to replace Eriksen's midfield role though.

Zummerzet Spur · Aug 6, 2019

Donki said:
Really? The guy wants to leave Tottenham, if he wanted to sign the contract he would sign the contract, its really that simple, there is NO need to feel sorry for CE.

He maybe considering signing a new contract with us but he’s holding off until the Spanish window shuts just in case.

philll · Aug 6, 2019

wrd said:
...I'm never going to jump on the he's dead to me bandwagon.

I'm not going to be jumping on any bandwagons but I have no sympathy for him at all. He's painted himself into a corner and it's backfired spectacularly.

philll · Aug 6, 2019

Zummerzet Spur said:
He maybe considering signing a new contract with us but he’s holding off until the Spanish window shuts just in case.

For all we know Madrid have said to him on the sly that they'll get the ball rolling to buy him after our window shuts.

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