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According to Sky Germany Bayern want Tuchel. Didn't PSG want Poch and vice versa?
 

wadewill

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I could really see Poch at PSG. Would not be surprised if they come in for him.

That said, he would have no chance dealing with those egos
 

PeeLee

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I understand football writers' motives in kite-flying for Mourinho to take over as manager of one or other Premier League club. In the last week or two, I've read or heard them suggest Arsenal, Tottenham, and most recently West Ham, as possible destination for him, while chucking into their microphones at the thought of the press conferences with Mourinho — for he has been their media creation, albeit with his own narcissistic connivance, ever since he arrived at Chelsea and declared himself 'The Special One'.

Football as soap opera, and in their knowledge that after the initial flap and his fancy-pants arrival at a club, the storyline will proceed and then come to a sour end after hours and hours of media speculation, "phone in and tell us" and lengthy articles in which the whole personal history of his time at previous clubs is recounted for the umpteenth time, day in and day out, week after week until departure. "Everyone loves the circus!" No, we bloody well don't.
 

ghjk_91

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Every team or individual I support in any other country or in any other sport - ARE SHITE.

Dont do it to yourself - it all compounds itself into a depressing mess
So you're the problem! Do us all a favour and go and support the scum will you. Bring them down from the inside.
 

spurnut

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I understand football writers' motives in kite-flying for Mourinho to take over as manager of one or other Premier League club. In the last week or two, I've read or heard them suggest Arsenal, Tottenham, and most recently West Ham, as possible destination for him, while chucking into their microphones at the thought of the press conferences with Mourinho — for he has been their media creation, albeit with his own narcissistic connivance, ever since he arrived at Chelsea and declared himself 'The Special One'.

Football as soap opera, and in their knowledge that after the initial flap and his fancy-pants arrival at a club, the storyline will proceed and then come to a sour end after hours and hours of media speculation, "phone in and tell us" and lengthy articles in which the whole personal history of his time at previous clubs is recounted for the umpteenth time, day in and day out, week after week until departure. "Everyone loves the circus!" No, we bloody well don't.
Can you imagine watching the amazon show with Jose at the helm :nailbiting: I bet his agent is constantly on the blower to levy!
 

LDNYid

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I understand football writers' motives in kite-flying for Mourinho to take over as manager of one or other Premier League club. In the last week or two, I've read or heard them suggest Arsenal, Tottenham, and most recently West Ham, as possible destination for him, while chucking into their microphones at the thought of the press conferences with Mourinho — for he has been their media creation, albeit with his own narcissistic connivance, ever since he arrived at Chelsea and declared himself 'The Special One'.

Football as soap opera, and in their knowledge that after the initial flap and his fancy-pants arrival at a club, the storyline will proceed and then come to a sour end after hours and hours of media speculation, "phone in and tell us" and lengthy articles in which the whole personal history of his time at previous clubs is recounted for the umpteenth time, day in and day out, week after week until departure. "Everyone loves the circus!" No, we bloody well don't.
This is a superb piece of writing; kudos.
 

Lighty64

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When he won La Liga, Barcelona were the best team that has probably ever played the game. Who else could have taken a title off of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, with Pep Guardiola as manager, in a season when Barcelona finished with 91 points? Jose finished with 100 points, which is still the La Liga record points total.

Jose managed against a much better Pep side than this Man City team, and beat him to a title. In his final full season with Manchester United Jose Mourinho finished 2nd, above us, and above Klopp's Liverpool. Since that season Man Utd have finished 6th, and are currently in 11th place.

When he won the title with Chelsea, it was the first time they had won the League in 50 years, and only the second time in their history. He also did it against one of the greatest managers in history.

All you're pointing out there is that Jose managed a team against Pep Guardiola and Sir Alex Ferguson, two managers who will be regarded as the greatest managers in the history of the game, and he beat them both.

he also had players that should have been winning titles with the players he had in a league where most of the top teams can use their B teams v the lower league teams and still cruise. Barcelona might have had the greatest team, but RM where still the richest and could afford any player in the world. a massive difference compared to the PL the toughest league in the World

edit: yep he did it against SAF, but look at the money they threw at it. we would need to spend a good half billion to get a squad as strong as City have now
 

Lighty64

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I’d like to see Poch turn it around, as would most, but his continuous crazy decisions are really hurting the team (Sanchez RB, Eriksen pffrt, fitness level requirements, his contradictions, constant changing of tactics and personnel, strange substitutions)... If we win tomorrow, and we play well (like Palace and hone game of this tie) then he should stick with those players in those roles.. It’s really not that difficult, but he’s refusing to do it. Why? It seems he’s cutting his nose off to spite his face, and it’s ruining our season..

If the main man is struggling for any kind of resemblance of sanity, then we truly are in need of a new leader.

just asking who would you of played at RB, when the other RB options were injured, to slow or unfit?

edit: also how do you expect the same team if playing well, play every fixture? last season a lot had to play due to injuries, and people can't understand why we lose to teams that have fresh legs
 

gavspur

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not in that at the time moment. KWP was injured, and Aurier had just had an operation on his wrist caused at an international fixture

Aurier was fit enough to be on the bench. Therefore he should be fit enough to play. Even then, Toby has played the majority of his games for Belgium at RB. So if he knows the position that well, surely better to put him there and Sanchez in the middle?
Go 3 at the back and play Sissoko as WB?
Don’t make out like there were no other options, because there bloody well was.
 

Lighty64

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This thread has been going around in circles for quite some time now. After every game we get another hundred pages or so of cut and paste argument ?

I think the more sensible among us swerved this thread quite some time ago

I only come in here because I no longer work, and playing catch up kills a lot of hours a day
 

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he also had players that should have been winning titles with the players he had in a league where most of the top teams can use their B teams v the lower league teams and still cruise. Barcelona might have had the greatest team, but RM where still the richest and could afford any player in the world. a massive difference compared to the PL the toughest league in the World

edit: yep he did it against SAF, but look at the money they threw at it. we would need to spend a good half billion to get a squad as strong as City have now

What winning manager doesn't "throw money at it"? Does every other team have a transfer embargo when Jose Mourinho enters the league?

Poch is calling for a half billion rebuild now. Why not give it to a manager that knows how to WIN with that money?

The blokes won this league 3 times, gone up against the best managers and teams in the world and beaten them, managed in 4 different countries and won the league title in all of them.

How many managers, plus their wages, plus their rebuild costs, plus their severance packages, do we have to go through before we realise getting Jose in for two and a half seasons is the cheaper alternative, and the option that will bring the most success?

This merry go round of managers with "potential" has to stop.
 

dagraham

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not in that at the time moment. KWP was injured, and Aurier had just had an operation on his wrist caused at an international fixture

well he sanctioned the sale of Trippier without a replacement, and it’s now become public knowledge that Aurier was wanting out as well.

Of course Poch can’t prevent injuries, but seemed quite happy to make us weaker there.
 

Lighty64

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Aurier was fit enough to be on the bench. Therefore he should be fit enough to play. Even then, Toby has played the majority of his games for Belgium at RB. So if he knows the position that well, surely better to put him there and Sanchez in the middle?
Go 3 at the back and play Sissoko as WB?
Don’t make out like there were no other options, because there bloody well was.

you do realise sometimes a player is on the bench because he might not be fit enough to cover the full 90. why start with a player you know will definitely need to be replaced, and then find you can't replace another player because you do have any substitutes left.

Go watch the build up to the penalty Aurier conceded, and see how slow Toby was getting back to cover. had he any decent pace he might have been able to help Aurier out.

couldn't play Sissoko or we wouldn't have had a match fit midfielder, if we did then Dier could have stood in.
 

Matthew

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So I just want to say I’m on the fence still as to whether we stick or twist, I can think of reasons for both outcomes .... but if you look back at our fixtures for the last calendar year nov 18 - feb 19 (Burnley away) it reads played 25 won 19, Lost 5, drew 1! Then from Burnley away until today it reads played 33 won 10, lost 16 drawn 7!

it’ll be nice to know what happened at burnley away (maybe in the dressing room after the game) to see what lead to the nose dive on results! Its Hard to read that ....: I genuinely think had city put us out in the quarters of the champs league, (like they should had) poch would be gone by now, I know it’s a bit touchy, but something clearly has happened behind the scenes to see those results drop like they have!
 

Lighty64

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What winning manager doesn't "throw money at it"? Does every other team have a transfer embargo when Jose Mourinho enters the league?

Poch is calling for a half billion rebuild now. Why not give it to a manager that knows how to WIN with that money?

The blokes won this league 3 times, gone up against the best managers and teams in the world and beaten them, managed in 4 different countries and won the league title in all of them.

How many managers, plus their wages, plus their rebuild costs, plus their severance packages, do we have to go through before we realise getting Jose in for two and a half seasons is the cheaper alternative, and the option that will bring the most success?

This merry go round of managers with "potential" has to stop.

we are not going to spend ½ a billion in 1 season, or 2, and by the 3rd season he will do what he does at every club, piss them off get sacked for another massive payout
 

Lighty64

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well he sanctioned the sale of Trippier without a replacement, and it’s now become public knowledge that Aurier was wanting out as well.

Of course Poch can’t prevent injuries, but seemed quite happy to make us weaker there.

There was rumour before the window closed he intended to use Foyth at RB, unfortunately he got injured, and was injured for the games Sanchez was used
 
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