The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[VancouverSpur]

Other than Mourinho no manager is going to publicly come out and say "yeah, I know he's been utter dogshit hasn't he?". The man can do no right at the moment and it's getting really dull.

Perhaps Eriksen is not downing tools but is going through something grim we don't know about and his manager is trying to help him through it?

This isn't a dig against you, it's just the way the world works that when the love is lost everything is seen in a negative light, I understand this but it is still dull.

Would have been quite the thread on here if he had come out and said "yes he is dog shit right now and I keep playing him so I can get the fuck out of this club, without losing my pay off".

 

[sausage]

From Dan Kilpatrick:

"Poch says he is happy with Eriksen's commitment and that his level of performance hasn't change in five years. Suggests players in final years of their contract can be more committed than players with four years left."

I'm lost for words.

Wait... does that mean Poch has always thought he was shit?

 

[Grey Fox]

We need all hands to the pump at the moment and can't be carrying passengers, if Poch thinks Eriksen's form is ok then Poch has lost the plot. It's like playing with 10 men all the time Eriksen is on the pitch and how he lasted 100 minutes on Sunday is beyond me.
Eriksen in my mind is and always has been the last person I would want next to me in the trenches.
In short just fuck off to the u23s

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Poch is calling for a half billion rebuild now.

Really? I don't recall him saying that. Where or when did he say that?
It just reads like something that you've misinterpreted.

The half billion number was a meaningless nothing statistic from another poster that o just used for a point.

Poch has been going on endlessly about the need for a rebuild. With 150m spent this summer, plus replacing alderweireld, vertonghen, wanyama, rose, aurier, and eriksen, them 500m probably isn't far off.

 

[rossdapep]

It's abundantly clear that Poch is going absolutely nowhere and is going to get the next two windows to fix it.

The rebuild is completely unnecessary but here we go, strap in and hope for the best.

 

[shelfboy68]

I think if that were the case then we say goodbye to Kane/Son etc.
They aint sticking around and wasting their peak years in mid table.

Ain't that the truth can't blame them if they go.

 

[spursfan77]

I suspected this. We are struggling and haven’t got over losing the final. I think that’s what he’s saying here. If that’s the case then fine, he should of said it a while ago though.


How important is it for Spurs to get a result here tomorrow not only for the Champions League but in turning around this season?
Yesterday we were talking to someone. We were talking and he said we need to tell something that's important to know. Against Juventus in 2016 he played the final in Barcelona and they lost the final. In November they were in Italy in Serie A in 13th or 14th place and saying how difficult it is when you lose a final. Talking about Juventus, one of the best clubs. I think it's not to say nothing or to make excuses, it's only how difficult it is to manage different things. I always tell you that it's going to be important the three points tomorrow to be closer to the next stage of the Champions League and also for our confidence. Against Everton it was massive the step up until the injury of Andre Gomes we dominated and controlled the game. The three points were for us and it would have been massive. But when the dynamic is as it is it's important to be strong and knowing that we need to work so hard to turn around that negative dynamic. Of course it's going to be important tomorrow if we are able to win, it'll be massive for our confidence.

 

[spurs mental]

I suspected this. We are struggling and haven’t got over losing the final. I think that’s what he’s saying here. If that’s the case then fine, he should of said it a while ago though.


How important is it for Spurs to get a result here tomorrow not only for the Champions League but in turning around this season?
Yesterday we were talking to someone. We were talking and he said we need to tell something that's important to know. Against Juventus in 2016 he played the final in Barcelona and they lost the final. In November they were in Italy in Serie A in 13th or 14th place and saying how difficult it is when you lose a final. Talking about Juventus, one of the best clubs. I think it's not to say nothing or to make excuses, it's only how difficult it is to manage different things. I always tell you that it's going to be important the three points tomorrow to be closer to the next stage of the Champions League and also for our confidence. Against Everton it was massive the step up until the injury of Andre Gomes we dominated and controlled the game. The three points were for us and it would have been massive. But when the dynamic is as it is it's important to be strong and knowing that we need to work so hard to turn around that negative dynamic. Of course it's going to be important tomorrow if we are able to win, it'll be massive for our confidence.

Liverpool lost the final the year before and they only lost 2 games all season in the league.

Weak mentality if he is;

A) Allowing the players to continue thinking about that defeat
B) Still not over it himself

Sure, it hurt for a few weeks after the game but come on, once the new season kicked off it really should be an after thought.

 

[spursfan77]

Liverpool lost the final the year before and they only lost 2 games all season in the league.

Weak mentality if he is;

A) Allowing the players to continue thinking about that defeat
B) Still not over it himself

Sure, it hurt for a few weeks after the game but come on, once the new season kicked off it really should be an after thought.

We definitely have a weak mentality. We’ve all discussed the Liverpool reaction to it compared to us and it’s beyond stark. I mean, they’re the example Poch only has to point to. It’s not even difficult management!

 

[Mr Pink]

I'm getting tired of the excuses.

Just get on with it and show more desire ffs.

 

[dagraham]

What did "painful rebuild" actually mean? It was a strange comment at the time and I don't think he has explained it? Is levy backing Poch long term and we are planning on selling most of the squad and rebuilding? If that's true then it could be three or four seasons in mid table. Seems an odd situation.

It’s a situation that angers me probably more than it should. Why the fuck should we have needed to go backwards? The squad should be constantly evolving and improving, not just getting to the situation where we have to rip it up and virtually start again, possibly wasting a once in a generation home grown world class striker in the process.

It’s also something that I feared when leaving WHL that I tried to ignore. The long term future and infrastructure is clearly very important, but not at the expense of the short/medium term.

The stadium is superb, a blueprint for other clubs in terms of stadium building, but you have to invest properly in every aspect of the club and drive and demand standards on the field.

As Fergie regularly said, the biggest driver of commercial success is what happens on the pitch.

Worth also noting this is the second time we’ve dropped the ball when having a top quality squad that “nearly” achieved big things.

 

[spurs mental]

Those Eriksen comments should tell any of the Poch in crew what they need to know. The man is so weak.

Happy with Eriksen's commitment? Is that because he runs a lot and all Poch actually looks at is these sort of nonsense stats on his tablet during games?

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Pardon?

Ohhhhh

 

[Shadydan]

Had to laugh at Expressions calling him Mundanish

 

[Dazzazzad]

This is the bit I don't understand. We all know how much Levy likes making money, but throwing away a entire season,and missing out on the CL would see us losing millions, not to mention set us back years. I just don't get his thinking on this. Plus the fact then, we won't have CL football to entice anyone decent to come, and anyone we do buy Poch won't play until about 2022, so none of this makes sense, whatever way you look at it.

I don't think you're considering the alternative.

Is it crazy to think Levy after years of shit managers, feels he hit the jackpot with Poch?
That instead of backing (if there is truth to it) wantaway players who will be gone from the club in 1-2 years REGARDLESS of if Poch stays or not - Levy is throwing his lot in with the guy who helped get the club to where it is today? Is it nuts to think he feels it would be a gamble to start again, seeing clubs like United roll through managers, spend fortunes and keep receding?

That if he does sack Poch, not only is he rolling the dice but he's doing so having to do a massive payoff to Poch and staff plus the new hires, which would make it harder to complete the squad refresh and potentially take longer for the club to recover to where it was in past seasons?

You're making an assumption that things won't get better under Poch, and based on recent weeks - I get the concern. But there are plenty of common sense reasons to stick it out for now and hope the best manager in my time supporting the club can find his mojo again.

 

[DannyNZ]

What did "painful rebuild" actually mean? It was a strange comment at the time and I don't think he has explained it? Is levy backing Poch long term and we are planning on selling most of the squad and rebuilding? If that's true then it could be three or four seasons in mid table. Seems an odd situation.

What is worse is the painful unbuilding of a number of good years and a quality squad and each game that goes by the pain seems to be getting worse. This squad should be performing at a much higher level than they are and Poch has to answer for that, would you trust him with a major rebuild when he seems to have been one of the main reasons we now seemingly need to rebuild.

 

[Shadydan]

What is worse is the painful unbuilding of a number of good years and a quality squad and each game that goes by the pain seems to be getting worse. This squad should be performing at a much higher level than they are and Poch has to answer for that, would you trust him with a major rebuild when he seems to have been one of the main reasons we now seemingly need to rebuild.

Well you'd trust him on the basis of he built the original team in the first place.

 

[The Doc]

Those Eriksen comments should tell any of the Poch in crew what they need to know. The man is so weak.

Happy with Eriksen's commitment? Is that because he runs a lot and all Poch actually looks at is these sort of nonsense stats on his tablet during games?

I agree. Would be so much better if Poch came out and said he's a s*** Danish c*** and he can't wait until he f**** off. The useless lego t***. I mean, come on. Even the football management sims tell you how to talk to the media, and not to slate your players in public.

 

[Stavrogin]

I think if this was 10 years ago, Poch would've been sacked by now.

It's abundantly clear that Poch is going absolutely nowhere and is going to get the next two windows to fix it.

The rebuild is completely unnecessary but here we go, strap in and hope for the best.

I do wonder if some people aren't a little myopic on this issue.

Pochettino's reign has been overall very impressive in more ways than one.

This bad spell is maybe his first real 'crisis' and although it has lasted a good while, there have been mitigating circumstances plus we managed to grind out a Champions league final and fourth place in the midst of it.

The idea that Levy would not have some loyalty towards Pochettino nor hopes that he can rectify the situation seems daft in the extreme.

And I don't understand it from a fan's perspective either. If there was some great alternative out there that was waiting to come in then maybe, but is anyone remotely as appealing as peak Pochettino? I'd rather give him the time to experiement with what is now a wealth of options in midfield and attack and to regenerate the defence. Has he not earnt that opportunity?

 

[Trix]

What did "painful rebuild" actually mean? It was a strange comment at the time and I don't think he has explained it? Is levy backing Poch long term and we are planning on selling most of the squad and rebuilding? If that's true then it could be three or four seasons in mid table. Seems an odd situation.

Surely you've al seen how hard it is to sell players that are not wanted, not to mention half of our assets will be available for nothing. It was a stupid statement at the time and it looks even worse now