Jose Mourinho

The question I keep asking myself is would JM ever get the City or Pool job, I doubt he would.

Lots of broken hearts causing some rather erratic comments towards Mourinho, a couch who hasn't even taken on a training session for us yet.

Give it some time before we start slating the man, who right now is our most successful appointment we've ever made.

Give the man some respect and acknowledgement for what he has achieved and let's see how far he can take this team.

thecook said:

also interesting to see if he rates Dier as a DM or a CB

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I imagine he won't rate him as anything and both of those positions will be on his shopping list... Good luck Levy.

KILLA_SIN said:

The question I keep asking myself is would JM ever get the City or Pool job, I doubt he would.

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Would any manager in world football? Arguably the two best coaches in world football right now, hard to replace either.

Pretty sure City would have taken Mourinho before they landed Pep. Both clubs will probably end up replacing both with long term managers, who will look to carry on with the projects that have been built, rather than someone with a rich history of success like JM.

The problem with Mourinho is he polarises people. We have been quite a happy bunch in recent years. Supporters players and the club have all been moving in the same direction. The appointment of Mourinho is going to change it. I’m not sure if it will be for the better. It could either propel the club forward or send it back to the dark ages. Even just looking through the threads today on here. We could potentially have splits and divisions. Or it could work our beautifully. The problem is. We all know he will not hang around. He will do something. Then create problems and move on. With a hefty goodbye in his back pocket. And I think that is my fear. And the fear of a lot of posters on here. Time will tell

I was desperate for Poch to win something for us and leave on his terms because it would have been the perfect romantic ending which tbh is why I watch football, I'm not a win at all costs type of person probably to a fault. So Jose for me feels very pragmatic and almost like cheating as I imagine he will get the job done and win some trophies.

I think that likely scenario that we can hope for is that Jose will most likely be here short term and he will win some trophies which builds foundations for our next long term appointment who will inherit a squad which has a few wins under its belt and the experience to get the job done. The absolutely best case scenario is that his recent failures have humbled him and he wants to finally build a longer lasting legacy rather than a trophies for hire manager.

I'm a little concerned for the likes of Sessegnon who I wonder now will become a fairly decent winger but I feel he has the ability to be a world class LB and my concern will be the development of the likes of him. I'm concerned for Ndombele because whilst we might give him lack of stamina the benefit of the doubt, I don't think Jose will tolerate it. I don't want to see ndombele neutered in the way Pogba was. I'm worried for the likes of Dele, Foyth also as I feel he will go more pragmatic and we will see the likes of Davies, Sissoko, Dier make the core of the team.

On the other hand I'm hopeful that the cause of the situation at United was the players and we have a better base. Jose actually coached one of my favourite teams to watch with that incredible counter attacking Real Madrid team with the likes of Higuain, Ronaldo, Di Maria and Ozil and we have the players at our disposal to produce similar especially Son playing the role of Ronaldo and Kane in the Higuain role. I'd love to see Kane develop the way Drogba did. I also feel like maybe our CB's will benefit as we probably won't force the high line and we may see Lloris make less mistakes once he is no longer forced to play a style of football he is uncomfortable with.

I feel sorry for Sanchez who Jose singled out as the weak link in the europa league final between Ajax and United and hope that the fact he knew his weaknesses means he can develop him.

I always felt Jose was burnt out from his team in Madrid and I'm hopeful he is reinvigorated with the rest he's had, humbled by his failure at United and enjoys his underdog status with Spurs to give us the right combination of manager. There's no denying he knows how to win. I hope he aims to play attacking football which has always been our way and I'd be very happy if that was built on fast turnovers and counter attacking play.

There's a lot I do actually like about Jose, I just didn't entertain it as I felt he wouldn't fit within our constraints, this does feel very unlike spurs with this appointment but we'll see. He does feel at times the complete opposite to us as we're an attacking team who wins nothing but I hope he strikes the right balance.

Time for Heroes said:

Do you think Levy hasn't thought about this?

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It's genuinely baffling that people can't comprehend this

yankspurs said:

Can we hire a DOF now? The bald, short **** shouldnt be on transfers anymore.

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do you ever get bored of being a whinging old ****.

KILLA_SIN said:

The question I keep asking myself is would JM ever get the City or Pool job, I doubt he would.

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No but Pochettino would. But Pochettino wanted to leave us anyway so time to move forward. We basically had a choice between Mourinho, Howe, maybe Allegri (if he is even interested in us) and Ancelotti if/when he gets the sack. Most other potential targets won't be available until summer.

McFlash said:

@Kspur
Give the ratings a rest mate, every other post on this site seems to have a red cross, or a neg rep from you.
You don't have to disagree or dislike everything you know, we get how you feel.

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And there was me thinking that his disagree button got stuck.

Kingellesar said:

Would any manager in world football? Arguably the two best coaches in world football right now, hard to replace either.

Pretty sure City would have taken Mourinho before they landed Pep. Both clubs will probably end up replacing both with long term managers, who will look to carry on with the projects that have been built, rather than someone with a rich history of success like JM.

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I really doubt he was our first choice, I think availability was the deciding factor here.

KILLA_SIN said:

I really doubt he was our first choice, I think availability was the deciding factor here.

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I agree with this, I think if this was end of the season and we somehow mutually agreed a termination with Poch if we had failed to get top 6, then we would have looked towards the likes of ten Hag or Naglesmann.

GutBucket said:

No but Pochettino would. But Pochettino wanted to leave us anyway so time to move forward. We basically had a choice between Mourinho, Howe, maybe Allegri (if he is even interested in us) and Ancelotti if/when he gets the sack. Most other potential targets won't be available until summer.

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I dont think Howe was in the running, Reports Allegri was lukewarm about us, I think we would have gone for someone else, he was available he will be decent for the here and now.

DiscoD1882 said:

The problem with Mourinho is he polarises people. We have been quite a happy bunch in recent years. Supporters players and the club have all been moving in the same direction. The appointment of Mourinho is going to change it. I’m not sure if it will be for the better. It could either propel the club forward or send it back to the dark ages

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The reality is, those of us who wanted Poch to stay and also those who were against the signing of Jose (which as soon as Poch left I wasn't against) need to make a decision. We either prefer being right and would rather be correct than Spurs be successful so we can say I told you so or we accept what's happened and support the team because we prefer seeing spurs win more than we like being right.

Personally, I'll admittedly be disappointed in the players if they're bang at it vs West Ham (Mind you they don't need to be with how terrible their keeper is) but fact of the matter is I don't know what the situation was like on the training ground so all I can do is get behind the team now and hope we kick on because I'd rather us do well and win than me be right that we shouldn't have got rid of Poch.

KILLA_SIN said:

The question I keep asking myself is would JM ever get the City or Pool job, I doubt he would.

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Mate you want to ask yourself more interesting questions

wrd said:

I was desperate for Poch to win something for us and leave on his terms because it would have been the perfect romantic ending which tbh is why I watch football, I'm not a win at all costs type of person probably to a fault. So Jose for me feels very pragmatic and almost like cheating as I imagine he will get the job done and win some trophies.

I think that likely scenario that we can hope for is that Jose will most likely be here short term and he will win some trophies which builds foundations for our next long term appointment who will inherit a squad which has a few wins under its belt and the experience to get the job done. The absolutely best case scenario is that his recent failures have humbled him and he wants to finally build a longer lasting legacy rather than a trophies for hire manager.

I'm a little concerned for the likes of Sessegnon who I wonder now will become a fairly decent winger but I feel he has the ability to be a world class LB and my concern will be the development of the likes of him. I'm concerned for Ndombele because whilst we might give him lack of stamina the benefit of the doubt, I don't think Jose will tolerate it. I don't want to see ndombele neutered in the way Pogba was. I'm worried for the likes of Dele, Foyth also as I feel he will go more pragmatic and we will see the likes of Davies, Sissoko, Dier make the core of the team.

On the other hand I'm hopeful that the cause of the situation at United was the players and we have a better base. Jose actually coached one of my favourite teams to watch with that incredible counter attacking Real Madrid team with the likes of Higuain, Ronaldo, Di Maria and Ozil and we have the players at our disposal to produce similar especially Son playing the role of Ronaldo and Kane in the Higuain role. I'd love to see Kane develop the way Drogba did. I also feel like maybe our CB's will benefit as we probably won't force the high line and we may see Lloris make less mistakes once he is no longer forced to play a style of football he is uncomfortable with.

I feel sorry for Sanchez who Jose singled out as the weak link in the europa league final between Ajax and United and hope that the fact he knew his weaknesses means he can develop him.

I always felt Jose was burnt out from his team in Madrid and I'm hopeful he is reinvigorated with the rest he's had, humbled by his failure at United and enjoys his underdog status with Spurs to give us the right combination of manager. There's no denying he knows how to win. I hope he aims to play attacking football which has always been our way and I'd be very happy if that was built on fast turnovers and counter attacking play.

There's a lot I do actually like about Jose, I just didn't entertain it as I felt he wouldn't fit within our constraints, this does feel very unlike spurs with this appointment but we'll see. He does feel at times the complete opposite to us as we're an attacking team who wins nothing but I hope he strikes the right balance.

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Just to say - even in his 'failure' at Man Utd, he did still win the Europa and League cup. albeit with a very poor Man U squad.. I would consider trophies to be a success. personally.

Deathrod said:

Just to say - even in his 'failure' at Man Utd, he did still win the Europa and League cup. albeit with a very poor Man U squad.. I would consider trophies to be a success. personally.

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It's all relative, I'm sure he considers his United stint to be a failure because his goal was to bring them back to being Premier League winners. Of course the goalposts move with us because we don't have the history of United.

Time for Heroes said:

Do you think Levy hasn't thought about this?

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Oh, I'm sure he's thought about it. And you can bet your life Jose has thought about it as well. There are 3 options,

1) Levy has changed, and is honestly going to be prepared to do something he's never done before. Spend the big money on the big players with big reps and huge wages.
2) Jose has changed. He's had some sort epiphany, realised there's a different way of doing things, operating withing a much more limited budget. Taking money and being able to do more with it than the competition.
3) There's been some shit chatted in some meetings. Either one of them think option 1 or 2 or even a bit of both is happening. It's not.

wrd said:

It's all relative, I'm sure he considers his United stint to be a failure because his goal was to bring them back to being Premier League winners. Of course the goalposts move with us because we don't have the history of United.

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I am not sure - I think he may see finishing second, and those trophies in his first season as an amazing accomplishment, he did say from day 1 he needed years to rebuild Man U, but with us, he's already salivating at the squad he has inherited.. I am quietly optimistic...

All Mourinho must do is shore up the defence. He might take a player like Dier and bring him back to his best or better even Wanyama.
It could go either way with Mourinho. But he is a tough bastard and a confident bastard. He isnt Mr Nice Guy,the face of Tottenham since I can remember. Will we respect Mourinho? His record with us will tell that story while we will always love the Pochs of Tottenham we will expect more from Mourinho and Im sure Mourinho expects a lot from himself.