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He's a player of immense dimensions?
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1966

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Just came to post that exact same thing in article form: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50549364

The way some pundits were talking about a possible move for Ibra, you'd think it was a done deal, especially the guys on ESPN. Just goes to show how little even people who comment on football for a living really know about what goes on inside anyone else's head.

I'm sure Harry (and the other attackers) will be flattered that Jose sees Ibra as redundant to the current squad. I know Ibra is getting on a bit (a lot) but it was only a couple of years ago that he was deemed good enough to start for Utd by the same manager and he was, at his peak, one of the best and most interesting strikers in the world. It's not the same comparison it once was but you'd take it all day long.
 

allatsea

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Just came to post that exact same thing in article form: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50549364

The way some pundits were talking about a possible move for Ibra, you'd think it was a done deal, especially the guys on ESPN. Just goes to show how little even people who comment on football for a living really know about what goes on inside anyone else's head.

I'm sure Harry (and the other attackers) will be flattered that Jose sees Ibra as redundant to the current squad. I know Ibra is getting on a bit (a lot) but it was only a couple of years ago that he was deemed good enough to start for Utd by the same manager and he was, at his peak, one of the best and most interesting strikers in the world. It's not the same comparison it once was but you'd take it all day long.
They are like newspapers. They have to fill time And Newspapers have to fill space. Neither of them can say they have no news so what they don’t know they make up.
 

1966

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Needs to get his shots away quicker, there was 2 times today he was in behind but took too long to get the ball shifted on to his right foot and ended up being tackled. He can finish fine with his left so not sure why he's so insistent on it.

Played very well overall though.
Don't undersell the matter. He can finish better with his left than the vast majority of strikers on their strong foot.

Usually, he has no problem, mentally or physically, with shooting on his left. Ever since that one season ('16/17?) where he suddenly started using his left peg seemingly all the time and looked very comfortable doing it, he has opted to take plenty of shots on that foot even when he has the choice. I reckon he went away one summer and did nothing but left-sided drills - he still does this in training a lot - until he was basically ambipedal and now he does it for match practice (and the unpredictability value of course).

It's strange to me that he tried to get onto his right against West Ham. I can't help but think that maybe he had some very minor issue with his left leg/ankle/foot/whatever or that he was explicitly instructed to attempt to shift for some reason. Or perhaps he had a picture of the play in his head that involved switching onto his right - I wouldn't put it past him with his footballing intelligence[1] - and it just happened to not come off properly. It happens, especially with such a small sample size.

When it comes to choosing when and how to kick a football, Kane is Isaac Newton or Alan Turing compared to most of us. I'm sure he'll know exactly what he did wrong in that game relative to what he had in his mind and will know how to improve for the future. He used to be brilliant at short-backlift snapshots and, like you, I hope he recognises their value to his game and brings them back more often.

[1] A perfect example of this was his most recent hat-trick goal for England. Instead of getting a shot off as soon as possible like most strikers would do instinctively, he intentionally delayed it by a second or so to get a defender out of the line, which probably made the difference between a block and a goal. When you see stuff like that, you tend to trust that most things he does in front of goal are for a reason, even when they don't necessarily work. In fact, I'd love to hear him commentate more on his goals: whenever he does, it's very insightful and leaves you marvelling at his split-second decision-making -- absolutely essential for anyone who, like me, enjoys playing the game and (attempting to) play striker.
 
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1966

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Would it shock anyone if Mourinho planted that story about Ibra just so he could deny it and big up Kane.
On a humorous level, it sounds like the kind of thing he'd do.

On a serious level, though, the idea/rumour originated on an opinion panel bit on ESPN, I believe. They were just saying it was a good idea rather than introducing any speculation and I suspect it snowballed from there. Giving your rumour to one guy on an ESPN discussion doesn't seem like the most efficient way to create media hype imo.

(To be fair, as far as I know, ESPN may have got the idea from a fucking Reddit thread. Football journalism now just seems to be quotes from press conferences mixed with reaction from Twitter and speculation from fan forums. Almost every bit of interesting OC on /r/soccer ends up on at least one big news site, usually with no credit given to the author. It's an appalling state of affairs.)
 

Hakkz

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On a humorous level, it sounds like the kind of thing he'd do.

On a serious level, though, the idea/rumour originated on an opinion panel bit on ESPN, I believe. They were just saying it was a good idea rather than introducing any speculation and I suspect it snowballed from there. Giving your rumour to one guy on an ESPN discussion doesn't seem like the most efficient way to create media hype imo.

(To be fair, as far as I know, ESPN may have got the idea from a fucking Reddit thread. Football journalism now just seems to be quotes from press conferences mixed with reaction from Twitter and speculation from fan forums..)

The rumour probably began when Mourinho was hired and people remembered that Zlatan's contract is expiring. Nothing else.
 

1966

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The rumour probably began when Mourinho was hired and people remembered that Zlatan's contract is expiring. Nothing else.
Well, yeah, that's exactly why the ESPN panel brought it up (no contract, did well in the US, connection with Mourinho). They never treated it as something that was going to happen. It was just a suggestion.

I expect you're right that they aren't the only people to have gone through the same thought process. They were just the first to seriously discuss it in the "real" media sphere as far as I'm aware.

I'm basically agreeing with you that it was an obvious move, which is why I don't think it was intentionally created as a rumour.
 

Shadydan

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ESPN are click bait merchants, they'll discuss anything that will generate revenue for them whether it's likely to happen or not. They are putting Mourinho on every title about Spurs on their YT vids and articles knowing that people will click so it doesn't surprise me they are talking about Zlatan to Spurs.

They're also massive dickheads, reactionary pundits who contradict themselves all the time and don't really offer any sort of analysis, certainly not anywhere near the level of Neville or Carragher.

Gab Marcotti used to be alright but he'd just become a tool along with the others saying stuff without any real meaning or though process. Burley and Nicol are just fucking weapons who both appear drunk especially Nicol. Shaka Hislop is clueless and that South American guy (I can't remember his name) is just a joke.

They are very much throw enough shit at the wall and some of it will stick, you can probably tell I don't like them :D
 

Jaddas

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Kane is the quickest player to 20 Champions League goals. Del Piero was the fastest and he took 26 games.

Our Harry did it in 24 games. Quicker than Messi, Ronaldo etc.

So proud of our one season wonder!!
 
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