Jose Mourinho

Wheeler Dealer · Mar 7, 2020

Ossie85 said:
We can safely assume this new assistant manager is worse than his last.

I think our assistant secured his role by winning it in a raffle....

glacierSpurs · Mar 7, 2020

Why no one calling Poch out for spending a club record money on an disinterested and unfit player but shooting Mourinho for stating facts.

spursfan77 · Mar 7, 2020

Everyone focusing on the Ndombele comments but Skipp will be feeling 10 feet tall after hearing that after being subbed off at half time.

Shadydan · Mar 7, 2020

Ossie85 said:
True, but that should be resolve in private. Mourinho has done this public criticisms in the past, and I can't recall if it worked in any player. It's a very bad tactic for a group leader.

Come on, how long is this gonna go on for?

This is just nonsense shit throwing at Mourinho for yet another forced narrative just because people don't like him, yes he has called out players in the past in public IMO for the wrong reasons and he has thrown players under the bus again for all the wrong reasons but he's he right about Ndombele, if he's not getting a tune out of him behind closed doors then what is he meant to do?

Deleted member 27995 · Mar 7, 2020

Ossie85 said:
True, but that should be resolve in private. Mourinho has done this public criticisms in the past, and I can't recall if it worked in any player. It's a very bad tactic for a group leader.

Unless we know what's already happened behind closed doors I can't get into this, all I know is that this player is still not playing anywhere near the levels people expected him to be playing at. If he can't motivate (which seems awfully likely right now) then his managers frustrations are warranted. IMO of course.

muppetman · Mar 7, 2020

Shadydan said:
How long are we going to have to put up with Ndombele's half arsed displays? It's obvious that he's been trying to improve his mentality and conditioning behind closed doors but the message isn't getting through. As much as I'm not a fan of calling out players in public you have to say he is 100% in right, if this doesn't give him a kick up the backside then nothing will - we just can't afford to carry these players especially not now.

I'm not defending Ndombele, I have to work on the assumption that he's fit enough to play but has some issue I'm not aware of that stops him giving his all. I just don't think Jose being Jose and making it a public issue is a good way to go.

Rightly or wrongly the Pogba situation showed that the power is in the hands of the players now - I just don't think this is an effective way to manage people. As for the highlighted bit, unless he has a really odd contract we are stuck with the guy and so have to try and make it work. Maybe Jose is right and this will work but he's tried this before and made zero progress so I just can't see the point of it - time will tell I guess.

SpursD22 · Mar 7, 2020

SpursD22 said:
Jose’s main specialty convincing everyone that he’s overachieving when he’s in fact underachieving actually works again lol

He’s finished

@spursfan77 why did you give me a spam rating, I’m talking about jose in the Mourinho thread lol

spurs mental · Mar 7, 2020

spursfan77 said:
Everyone focusing on the Ndombele comments but Skipp will be feeling 10 feet tall after hearing that after being subbed off at half time.

I think Skipp has done enough in the 1 and half games to have secured himself a starting role in plenty of games from now until the end of the season. Very impressed with him. Clever footballer.

On Ndombele, I think it was needed to call him out. We may well have played with 10 men while he was on the pitch. He has shown nothing, absolutely nothing despite being given chances to recently.

Hope it kicks him up the arse. He should look at Gio who is our best player right now for inspiration. Hell even Sissoko would probably give us more right now and hes injured.

Jamturk · Mar 7, 2020

Who played well in the 1st half?

Then ask yourself why.

Then ask why is JM trying to lay the blame on a CM who has'nt started a game for at least 4 weeks.

Ossie85 · Mar 7, 2020

Shadydan said:
Come on, how long is this gonna go on for?

This is just nonsense shit throwing at Mourinho for yet another forced narrative just because people don't like him, yes he has called out players in the past in public IMO for the wrong reasons and he has thrown players under the bus again for all the wrong reasons but he's he right about Ndombele, if he's not getting a tune out of him behind closed doors then what is he meant to do?

Don't play him, or wait until he changes. Exposing him in public is not going to improve anything. It will make things worse

Wheeler Dealer · Mar 7, 2020

Dougal said:
The sacking talk is nonsense if only for the fact that Levy isn’t paying off Mourinho 6 months after paying off a still-unemployed Poch.

If I were Levy, I'd be on a plane tonight over to The Bahamas and sit down with Uncle Joe and say I've monumentally fucked up here and need you to put your hand in your pocket and give me a few million to pay Mourinho to fuck off

Deleted member 27995 · Mar 7, 2020

spurs mental said:
I think Skipp has done enough in the 1 and half games to have secured himself a starting role in plenty of games from now until the end of the season. Very impressed with him. Clever footballer.

He wasn't that good out there tonight - Burnley played around him - that's not good enough.

bat-chain · Mar 7, 2020

I went a bit bloody nuts against Jose in the match thread and I kind of regret it.

Thing I just can’t get my head round perishing in a ditch to defend his style of football. If you've spent your whole life disliking it as I have done, if you see him as someone who is from the same school as Allardyce and Pulis. If you dislike the way he attacks his players and makes endless excuses.

Where do you go, what do you hold on to? I really respect and admire the people who are optimistic, I want to be one of you. When he came I even said we must blame the players as they got Pochettino sacked and will undoubtedly do the same to him. But when I see the football, the reluctance to go on the front against anyone at all I can't follow my own advice.

Deleted member 27995 · Mar 7, 2020

Ossie85 said:
Don't play him, or wait until he changes. Exposing him in public is not going to improve anything. It will make things worse

Don't play him? Wait? This is top level football, either the footballer wants it or he doesn't ...

Sorry, you're just straight up making excuses for a player that has earned good money this season for barely doing the thing he is paid for. I'm frustrated and I'm not his manager. Jose has been pretty restrained - that video footage was painful ...

Dr Benson · Mar 7, 2020

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg said:
8 months at the club and the guy that came in a month after he arrived is currently out performing him ... He shouldn't need be offended by the words of his manager when he is letting himself down.

No, it's probably right. But, still it is a risky business by a manager to say something like that about a player to the media.

spurs mental · Mar 7, 2020

Ossie85 said:
Don't play him, or wait until he changes. Exposing him in public is not going to improve anything. It will make things worse

How can he know things have changed if he doesnt play him? He might be giving his all in training every day and Jose might be thinking shit I've gotten through to this lad and then on he strolls to the pitch and doesn't quite fancy it.

wrd · Mar 7, 2020

glacierSpurs said:
Why no one calling Poch out for spending a club record money on an disinterested and unfit player but shooting Mourinho for stating facts.

Probably because every single one of us was desperate for him signing and we were all holding hands crying for joy when we got it over the line. Though not sure how people can really be upset with Jose. Jose is struggling to string a team together and this guy who has ridiculous ability is letting us down when we need him most.

Deleted member 27995 · Mar 7, 2020

Dr Benson said:
No, it's probably right. But, still it is a risky business by a manager to say something like that about a player to the media.

Well, he down played it prior to the Norwich game didn't he? I mean, he made light of it? Swings and roundabouts.

Ossie85 · Mar 7, 2020

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg said:
Unless we know what's already happened behind closed doors I can't get into this, all I know is that this player is still not playing anywhere near the levels people expected him to be playing at. If he can't motivate (which seems awfully likely right now) then his managers frustrations are warranted. IMO of course.

I think irrespective of how he is playing, exposing him in public is a very bad move.

Wheeler Dealer · Mar 7, 2020

Shadydan said:
Yeah 3 months - pathetic mentality from these 'fans'

Instead of calling everyone pathetic, what are you seeing that the vast majority of us are not?

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