Hoddle&Waddle
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It wont it will be Dier + 1, at least in Mourinho's mind anyway.
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Dier’s nowhere near our best defender :s.
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Dier and Skriniar can be a solid cb pairing and both can play in right or left side of the defense. Also jose never likes left footed center back so signing Skriniar makes sense from Jose Mourinho perspective
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We are linked with 2 cb kimmy and skrinar, we have toby sanchez dire foyth tanganga , tanganga can play rb and also played lb as well by jm in defo 2 games and did well in both, his pace and fact he young n just wants to play and have game time means hed be kept happy for time being. That leaves 3 cb i exclude juan as seems his time is up but that leaves 2 potential incomings with 3 cbs so only one of the 2 linked will come i believe, Skrinar prob JM 1st choice and kimmy the back up. I dont rate dire or have trust in him at all, he is a good lad has great attributes to be very good but he lacks concentration for 90 mins, prone to lapses, prone for making at least 1 or 2 bad mistakes a game and seems that wont change, his positional play is quite suspect too, so skrinar would or should higher up the pecking order. If what people know and said about skrinar is correct eg old school vidic / terry style he would be ideal the way JM plays.
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I first read that in a really morbid way!
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Mourinho's opinion is what matters, not ours.
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I like Toby, but he gets an easy ride on here compared to others. Had a really mixed bag of a season. If we get Skriniar I suspect he would play most games, and I wouldn't be at all sure that Toby would be the one partnering him. But who knows.
I think I'm generally supportive of the idea of getting Skriniar, but only if we are really not convinced on Ndombele or Ndombele is really pushing. Like, he is a talent that is hard to turn down, regardless of if we 'need' him. Tanganga can also be made to deputise at RB for next season and we are back to having 4 very strong CBs.
I think I'm generally supportive of the idea of getting Skriniar, but only if we are really not convinced on Ndombele or Ndombele is really pushing. Like, he is a talent that is hard to turn down, regardless of if we 'need' him. Tanganga can also be made to deputise at RB for next season and we are back to having 4 very strong CBs.
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In mourinho's eye, Dier is our best defender ...
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Ah yes, brings back memories of Federico Fazio..........
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Pre lockdown he was looking for a quality centre back... reduced budget has likely impacted this but it doesn’t mean if one becomes available that he won’t pursue it. Bear in mind we were linked with Koulibaly and Varane... both have very high transfer fees.
Jose picked Aurier, Winks and Sissoko week in week out... it doesn’t mean they’re any good.
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He is no way better than toby or even sanchez... if dire is considered our no 1 def we have serious monumental probs at the back ... anyways he defo is not no 1, like serge he has ability to be very good but is a hardcore liability, far to prone to lapses in concentration and mistakes, he needs to change that and improve pronto else he will cost us dearly.
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emiley heskey
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In last match of the season, jose picked Dier ahead of Sanchez despite having Sanchez fully fit and sanchez and toby combo got one clean sheet in previous match.
Aurier, sissoko, winks situation and dier situation are not same ...
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All our CB’s will look a lot better this year when they have Højbjerg sat in front of them, and a RB who can defend. If the opportunity is there to get this guy, much like Zaha, then we should at least be looking at it. I agree with most in saying I’d rather not be letting Ndombele leave tho either. 4-3-3 gives us good options with the players we have, and Højbjerg instantly upgrades the key option in there. If we’re able to add Skriniar to the CB options, and Zaha (Probably not, but he’s been mentioned) to our attack, that’s a pretty dam good squad.
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Thats from the tuttosport report. Tuttosport is a turin based newspaper so tends to be more on the button with things around Juventus over things Inter. tuttosport is also not super reliable, they have a lot of pages to fill and it is almost all dedicated to football. It is a fairly respected newspaper though,and they run the golden boy award which is considered a fairly prestigious footballing award.Today, some Inter based media reporting that swap may happen regardless - negotiations are going on.
Ceccarini: "Inter, Skriniar scambiato a prescindere da Conte! Al suo posto..."
Ceccarini torna sull'operazione che l'Inter vorrebbe chiudere sacrificando Skriniar. Solo sullo sfondo il futuro di Conte in panchina.www.inter-news.it
A quick translation from this inter site
"The article by Niccolo Ceccarini ends with a brief reference to Inter. 'Regardless of what happens to Conte, Inter intend to continue to explore a deal swapping Skriniar with Ndombele. Negotiations continue. If Skriniar were to leave Inter will go in strong for Kumbulla, though there is also strong interest from Lazio" For Ceccarini, Inter may 'sacrifice' Skriniar even if Conte leaves."
Notes. This is not Inter based media reporting anything, this is Inter reporting a journalist on Tuttosport which wrote a brief section on Inter on what is, I imagine, a rumour column. There is nothing to suggest the source is close to inter and this is recycled into inter media.
Also another note on Italian rumours. Transfermarket speculation in Italy is really big, in many ways bigger than here and certainly different. TV in Italy has a large number of regional channels, those channels often program long late time slots from evening to the early morning where they talk in detail about football games, including live commentary, but more than that they talk hours and hours on transfers, mostly of a very speculative nature. And in the north of Italy these channels are dedicated only to Milan, Inter and Juve. (btw these shows are very amusing, because it's basically a lot of shouting and arguing, it's chaos aimed at entertainment over anything else really)
What I'm trying to say is take a lot of salt with a lot of things coming from Italy rumour wise, and local reports can often be less accurate thatn national ones, because there is a massive entertainment industry based on transfer market news, and often it needs to be taken as that. Entertainment, not news. In Italy it is best to stick with a few media sources and journalists, TuttoSport is, like, an orange rating, particularly for news outside of Juve. I would say its less reliable then La Gazzetta dello sport, a Milan based paper, and even La Gazzetta, while iconic, has the same kind of problems.
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People might be disagreeing with the idea that Dier might be Mourinho's preferred CB, but like it or not the evidence does support the notion that he is. He goes straight into the line up after suspension, and since the break the only defender to be picked 100% of the games he was available for.
Now there might be many reasons for this, but still, there are very good reasons to believe that Jose sees him as ahead of the other two, and I personally believe that's Jose's position. Is that my position? I don't know I think all our CBs have big strengths and weaknesses and think they are more or less at about equal footing. But, it's not far fetched at all to believe, that for Jose, Dier is N.1 regardless of ones own opinion.
Similarly, there is good reason to believe Mourinho does want another CB in and does see it as an issue to be resolved.
Now there might be many reasons for this, but still, there are very good reasons to believe that Jose sees him as ahead of the other two, and I personally believe that's Jose's position. Is that my position? I don't know I think all our CBs have big strengths and weaknesses and think they are more or less at about equal footing. But, it's not far fetched at all to believe, that for Jose, Dier is N.1 regardless of ones own opinion.
Similarly, there is good reason to believe Mourinho does want another CB in and does see it as an issue to be resolved.
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He was also our number one DM when mourinho came in so let's see how long he keeps his starting position when the lapses of concentration start to creep in.
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Fazio looked twice the player in Italy than he did in the EPL. Word of warning maybe, but Mourinho likes the CBs much deeper than Fazio was expected to play with us.
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And he was our number one DM for years and years during our most successful period. I mean, I get why people like Toby and Sanchez more, both who have made plenty of errors this season. But, I've always found this reductive and essentialism of players pretty depressing. He might make mistakes, but his weaknesses post injury, haven't been errors, more not having the agility and intensity for midfield. CB is a very different position and he shouldn't have so much of the same issues.
The last time he played CB regularly was at 23, at 23 you expect mistakes. It's a very different context this time and I'm very hopeful of his ability to improve and develop in that position. Excited about it actually. But we will find out.
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Yeh Fazio was not a bad defender, just had no pace and didn't like people running at him. But he was as good as anyone in the air. I don't think he was suited to the PL at all, but the way we played didn't help him, and he is not a bad defender in the right circumstances. Skriniar's reputation is much much bigger than Fazio's ever was though and he is far more mobile and has good ability on the ball. He is on a different planet to Fazio. Last year he was one of the most highly rated up and coming CBs in football, it's actually not a that different situation than Ndombele.
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