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Milan Skriniar

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I just think given opportunity, kim min jae has more potential than skriniar has now !!! Albeit Skriniar is more experienced at this level but kim min jae has the tools to become elite defender at european league...
I'd be shocked if that were the case. Skriniar before this season was truly considered one of the best defenders in Europe, and again the lack of knowledge of Serie A by English fans means people are a bit unaware of his reputation.

On transfermarkt.com he is valued as the 11th most expensive CB in world football and only second to Koulibaly in serie A. If we were to sign him I would expect him to be first pick.
 

teok

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Do we know if he even wants to come to us? I know this is the covid window but I'm still highly sceptical of swap deals. 100 x more when it involves a £60m player.
 

spursfan77

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I think we need another top level centre back and so does Mourinho, we’ve been linked with going for one since he’s joined (remember the Dias links?). We haven’t bougot a defender since 2017. It’s about time we got back out there. I’m just surprised that Conte wants Ndombele, surely sissoko is more his boat? Come on Antonio, you know it makes sense!
 

GutBucket

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With Conte on the apparent way out it looks like this one might be dead.
Not sure if system will change much if Allegri comes. He made great use of old Barzagli though, who wasn't exactly quick so maybe Skriniar will be good in his system.
 

Spurrific

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I may be in the minority, but I don’t think we need to splash on a centre back. Dier, Toby, Sanchez, Foyth and Tanganga is enough for me, with Davies, CCV even and BLF in the wings, there’s no point imo
 

TEESSIDE1

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I may be in the minority, but I don’t think we need to splash on a centre back. Dier, Toby, Sanchez, Foyth and Tanganga is enough for me, with Davies, CCV even and BLF in the wings, there’s no point imo

if a top class CB becomes available you don’t turn them down.

We used to have a quality defence:

prime Alderweireld and Vertonghen, with a very promising Sanchez fighting to get into the team. 3 quality centre backs.

now we have a declining Alderweireld, Sanchez has been hit and miss and the rest aren’t a patch on a peak Alderweireld or Vertonghen. We’ve got numbers not quality.
 

EastLondonYid

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I may be in the minority, but I don’t think we need to splash on a centre back. Dier, Toby, Sanchez, Foyth and Tanganga is enough for me, with Davies, CCV even and BLF in the wings, there’s no point imo
Dier may or may not prove to be a consistent top Ch, Toby is on the way down and can't be expected to play 40-50 games, Sanchez is decent but still hasn't convinced me or filled me with much confidence that we can rely on him to perform week in week out, too eratic needs a top ch next to him perhaps, Foyth we all know has alot of positives but again eratic, inconsistent can't be relied on, tanganga too early to judge
We definitely need a Ch to replace jan.
 
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Spurrific

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if a top class CB becomes available you don’t turn them down.

We used to have a quality defence:

prime Alderweireld and Vertonghen, with a very promising Sanchez fighting to get into the team. 3 quality centre backs.

now we have a declining Alderweireld, Sanchez has been hit and miss and the rest aren’t a patch on a peak Alderweireld or Vertonghen. We’ve got numbers not quality.

We also have limited funds? Centre back is nowhere near as much of a problem area as up front, central midfield or full back - it’s not worth using our limited budget on that area.

Dier is clearly being groomed as a full time centre back by Jose, I just think there are loads of other areas we should prioritise above centre back.
 

Timberwolf

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We also have limited funds? Centre back is nowhere near as much of a problem area as up front, central midfield or full back - it’s not worth using our limited budget on that area.

Dier is clearly being groomed as a full time centre back by Jose, I just think there are loads of other areas we should prioritise above centre back.
Agreed. We definitely need to prioritise RB and backup ST this summer. And if we sell Ndombele I feel that a creative midfield player would be higher priority than an expensive CB.

If we do want a CB I'd prefer we went for someone young and cheap like Kim Min Jae this summer so that we can allocate more money where it really matters. If Kim is a big success then we're sorted but if he flops it's not a huge loss and it hasn't limited our spending in other areas too much.
 

RichieS

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Agreed. We definitely need to prioritise RB and backup ST this summer. And if we sell Ndombele I feel that a creative midfield player would be higher priority than an expensive CB.

If we do want a CB I'd prefer we went for someone young and cheap like Kim Min Jae this summer so that we can allocate more money where it really matters. If Kim is a big success then we're sorted but if he flops it's not a huge loss and it hasn't limited our spending in other areas too much.
Genuine question - how did you feel about (e.g.) N'Jie and Nkoudou?
 

Timberwolf

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Genuine question - how did you feel about (e.g.) N'Jie and Nkoudou?
How did you feel about Dele Alli, Sandro, Rose, Walker, Bale, Lennon, Assou-Ekotto etc etc.

It's the nature of the game - some cheap signings come off, some don't. That doesn't mean we should stop making them though. Making clever, cheap, but slightly risky, signings like that is a huge part of what got us to where we are today. If our scouting department think he has what it takes, then why not take a punt?
 

RichieS

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How did you feel about Dele Alli, Sandro, Rose, Walker, Bale, Lennon, Assou-Ekotto etc etc.

It's the nature of the game - some cheap signings come off, some don't. That doesn't mean we should stop making them though. Making clever, cheap, but slightly risky, signings like that is a huge part of what got us to where we are today. If our scouting department think he has what it takes, then why not take a punt?
I agree entirely. I see so much whinging on here about such signings though that I'm always on the lookout...
 

Timberwolf

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I agree entirely. I see so much whinging on here about such signings though that I'm always on the lookout...
Yeah - ultimately what let us down over similar 'cheap' signings like Janssen, Nkoudou, etc, wasn't the players themselves but rather the scouting. However, we need to back ourselves in the market and continue to take calculated risks as it's the only chance we have of ever catching the richer clubs who can drop absurd money on top talent every season.

The type of signings that we should truly avoid are the desperation/third choice ones where we settle for a player who is clearly not top quality and has little chance of improving in order to temporarily patch a hole (e.g. Stambouli, Rocha, Gilberto, and to a lesser extent, Sissoko).
 

kent brockman

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if a top class CB becomes available you don’t turn them down.

We’ve got numbers not quality.

Whereas I agree about numbers rather than quality, our current CBs probably looked a bit worse than they actually are due to the complete absence of defensive nous in CM. So hopefully PEH can help us improve a bit there.

What does worry me though is that our CBs are all pretty slow (except for Sanchez, but who still makes me nervous for other reasons). Perhaps less of a problem if we defend deep, but considering also how slow Davies is at LB, it is a bit scary that we have pretty much zero recovery pace at the back.
 

WiganSpur

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If we're trading with Inter i'd rather pass on Skriniar as decent as he might be because he wouldn't be a priority position especially if Ndombele leaves. I'd accept something like 25 plus Brozovic and use that cash to get a more creative player who's either an 8 or 10.
 

jpascavitz

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Yeah, a bit of a weird one here. I don't want to say that I wouldn't take Skriniar, he looks a great defender that hasn't even hit his prime yet. But with the long term signing of Dier it seems that we've secured our CBs for the next few years in Toby (signed last year), Dier, Sanchez, and Tanganga. IF we wanted one more, I thought Kim Min-Jae made more sense just as he's a bigger risk, lower money signing that you can develop as Toby winds down his likely final contract with us.

However, things change all the time and when you're presented a player like Skriniar in a swap esque deal, then you have to access perhaps! I know as fans we're loyal to players, which is great, but at the end of the day it's Jose's problem, and if he gets what he wants and delivers, then great.
 

rabbikeane

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we've secured our CBs for the next few years in Toby (signed last year), Dier, Sanchez, and Tanganga. IF we wanted one more, I thought Kim Min-Jae made more sense just as he's a bigger risk, lower money signing that you can develop as Toby winds down his likely final contract with us.

We also have Foyth, and still CCV who'd do well in Europa League and would increase his value with game time (would need to sign new contract though).
 
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