How would anyone know?
I'd have thought if a lot of it has been kept in house, then any disciplinary action would be too.
Who: The Goat
When: 23rd August
Where: SC
... has been taking the piss for months and has no interest ... behaviour and attitude is awful.
Tuchel just said in his post-match interview how critical it is for them to reinforce their team this transfer window. Not sure where Ndombele would fit in this PSG team tbh, but hopefully they'll identify him as a potential addition. Surely it seems logical for him to move back to France if he's struggling, plus they're certainly one of the few teams out there with money to spend.
Rakitic is shiteswap the lazy sod for Rakitic
I was making a joke about me making up a journo.Oh you was referencing a convo on this thread from Early May involving me. The new info from ITK about him not trying for months and him wanting me out reminded me of the fun that was had here regarding respected Journos on twitter
Thiago pleaseRakitic is shite
Its not our fans specifically, its a general idea that players of colour are often branded as "lazy" and always seem to have an "entourage" that is somehow encouraging them to have a "poor attitude" etc. These are not things exclusively aimed at players of colour, but they are almost always aimed at foreign players and generally non-white foreign players. It fits a narrative that is rolled out by the media that nobody is quite like the good old, honest and hardworking, white, working class British footballer.Which players have our fans made the "lazy, arrogant and bigoted" comments about? I remember Adebayour would get some stick, but he was lazy and sulky when things weren't going his way. Kanoute as well, but again, he was very lazy, especially compared to Keane and Defoe. With Kanoute it was very frustrating as we could all see what a talented player he was. But other than those 2, I genuinely can't remember our fans singling out players of colour, for being lazy. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm open to that being the case. Your post seems to have been well received, so I assume this is a consistent theme. But if it isn't, then surely the more concerning thing, is that people are so accepting of these narratives.
Again, I'm not saying you are wrong, as there could be several examples that I've forgotten about. I remember VDV getting stick for not wanting to track back and obviously Berbatov. But I honestly can't remember any lazy or unfair accusations against our black players, or at least no running theme.
I wasn't referring to the lazy bit. I was referring more to the "entourage" and the "poor attitude" that players of colour always seem to have.Didn’t realise that Ginola, Berbatov, Bale, Bentley, Kranjcar, Paclyuchenko and Iversen were players of colour.
I see.I wasn't referring to the lazy bit. I was referring more to the "entourage" and the "poor attitude" that players of colour always seem to have.
Laziness is certainly levelled at foreign players moreso then British players but certainly isn't exclusive to them.
I see.
It seems to be more for players of colour but not to a sinister extent. A quick google of the words ‘football entourage contract’ bring up articles for N’Dombele, Kurzawa, Neymar and Willian, but also Kane, Cavani, Dybala and Lauturo Martinez.
I think it’s just the vogue word journalist use in place of a number of collective nouns.
Brozovic is arguably world class in the role that Winks played yesterday, sitting as the deepest midfielder and dictating play. I hadn't really thought he would make any sense with us having bought Hojbjerg, but if Hojbjerg is going to be tasked with hunting the ball down as opposed to maintaining positional discipline it's a different story. As a short-term move I have little doubt that swapping him for Ndombele would improve us given that Jose is unlikely to select a player who can't be arsed to apply himself.I'll take the Brozovic swap thank you
I respectfully disagree, but won’t say more as I don’t want to drag up the race discussion when it’s derailing so many threads. More than happy for you to pm me if you particularly want to make a further point.Dunno when I hear entourage in a football context I instantly associate it with black players and 10 hoodied folks loitering on a street corner leaning against a Cadilac ambiguously enough that it's not immediately clear whether they are in fact dealing drugs.
In all seriousness, there are racial connotations to the word that make uncritical or unthinking use of it in journalism sit rather uneasy with me.