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Player Watch: Pierre-Emile Højbjerg

EQP

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Think he has been the biggest victim once the squad lost faith in Mourinho’s methods. At the start of the season when we were getting results the players were prepared to follow the defensive style. Hojbjerg perfectly suited this style as we defended in numbers. Once the results dried up the players started to drop the intensity and it leaves Hojbjerg more exposed. As he isn’t the quickest he can get passed around relatively easily.

He's exhausted. He's been our main DM and is expected to clean up after our CM's and FBs. Plus he's featured in 48 games across all competitions for us this season and will probably get to 53 games before the season is out ( the most he ever got for Southampton was 38 games ) not to mention international duty. All those minutes in a team that leaks goals with players who aren't really good defensively is bound to tire him out. Thankfully, we have Skipp to call on next season.
 

Japhet

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He's exhausted. He's been our main DM and is expected to clean up after our CM's and FBs. Plus he's featured in 48 games across all competitions for us this season and will probably get to 53 games before the season is out ( the most he ever got for Southampton was 38 games ) not to mention international duty. All those minutes in a team that leaks goals with players who aren't really good defensively is bound to tire him out. Thankfully, we have Skipp to call on next season.

The workload he's been subjected to has been hugely increased by continually playing him in a pivot. He has to cover so much ground and, being as all of our midfielders would work better in a CM3, I think it's on the manager that he's now completely knackered. At least Mason put him in a 3 for the CCup final, but then bizarrely put Winks in the deep role. We've been chasing shadows in midfield all season and now PEH hardly has the legs to do that.
 
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Wanted by Mourinho at Roma according to Gazzetta dello Sport. Eric Dier also.. A poor rumor that.
 
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Italian sports media makes the British equivalent look credible.

Hell, it even makes adiepf look credible.

They always have been.

Hell even Conte, Sarri, Gasperini, Fonseca, Zerbi and Inzaghi are all gonna be our next manager at the same time! o_O
 

dontcallme

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He’s had a good first season. Very good start but struggled more in the second half of the season. Could be tiredness or maybe just struggled more as the team got worse.

My feeling is he won’t become world class but could be a very good player and leader for years to come.
 

Marty

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He’s had a good first season. Very good start but struggled more in the second half of the season. Could be tiredness or maybe just struggled more as the team got worse.

My feeling is he won’t become world class but could be a very good player and leader for years to come.
I think Højbjerg has been run into the ground, he's been a victim of the players losing faith in Jose's tactics meaning the burden to an even greater degree has fallen on him to clean up, and he's the sort of player who will look better the better his team mates are because of his character.

I hope and think he'll be an important cog for us for several years.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Unpopular as this will be, I have a feeling that, if we get a manager who likes a more technical approach to the game, Hojbjerg will struggle to fit into the plans.

For Mourinho-ball, he's practically perfect. He's a wrecker, nothing wrong with that, he's pretty damn decent at it. But I've said before, what I (personally) see, is a player who's kind of a blend of Dier & Winks. Loves a tackle & keeps things simple, but is often glided past by technical players & resorts to petty little fouls to stop them.

I'll look on with intrigue next season. But if Skipp continues the upwards trajectory that his loan has put him on, I have a feeling Hojbjerg will be looking very cautiously over his shoulder.

Also, although Italian media are full of shit. I'd imagine, if the rumours about Mourinho wanting him are true, they would have to pay significantly more than the £15M we got him for. Again, that could appeal to the new manager, should he feel he wants a more technical option, but with the understandable financial restrictions due to Covid.

Before I get the expected abuse. I've not once said he's a bad player, or that we should be looking to sell him. He's very good at what he does do.
 

C. P. Harris

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He reads the game well and gets into the appropriate positions, it makes up for his lack of pace a bit like how it was for Sheringham at the other end when he was strutting his stuff. I agree that Skip may well be the answer to the workload for Hojbjerg. to be fair he's had to play alongside some........ I'll be kind and say 'lesser players'. who i'd much rather seen gone than Hojbjerg.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Unpopular as this will be, I have a feeling that, if we get a manager who likes a more technical approach to the game, Hojbjerg will struggle to fit into the plans.

For Mourinho-ball, he's practically perfect. He's a wrecker, nothing wrong with that, he's pretty damn decent at it. But I've said before, what I (personally) see, is a player who's kind of a blend of Dier & Winks. Loves a tackle & keeps things simple, but is often glided past by technical players & resorts to petty little fouls to stop them.

I'll look on with intrigue next season. But if Skipp continues the upwards trajectory that his loan has put him on, I have a feeling Hojbjerg will be looking very cautiously over his shoulder.

Also, although Italian media are full of shit. I'd imagine, if the rumours about Mourinho wanting him are true, they would have to pay significantly more than the £15M we got him for. Again, that could appeal to the new manager, should he feel he wants a more technical option, but with the understandable financial restrictions due to Covid.

Before I get the expected abuse. I've not once said he's a bad player, or that we should be looking to sell him. He's very good at what he does do.
I think you do him a slight disservice. He’sa little agricultural in some respects but he also hits some very nice passes, intelligent ones which progress play, and has actually made a few goals too. I’d like him to be a bit more nimble, but I think, though Dembele he may not be, he’s a very good all rounder who will complement most midfield partners.

Where he’s been bypassed this season is that we’ve often been set up a) to let the other side have the ball and b) with him doing the work of an entire midfield. Had we been set up to keep possession and play further from our goal, I think he’d have had a better time of it in those games where he struggled. I think if you’re going for the single pivot, you have to do so in a situation where that player isn’t constantly called into action because you’ve got under 40% of the ball.

I do agree on Skipp, I think he may show that he can do anything Højbjerg can do but with more athleticism and pace. I also think that, had Lo Celso been fit this season, he’d have been the most common partner for Højbjerg and while I suspect GLC is more suited to a 3 (save as Ndombele, Sissoko, Winks), he’s also the best rounded of Højbjerg’s potential midfield partners and both players would’ve benefited from playing together.
 

C. P. Harris

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I think you do him a slight disservice. He’sa little agricultural in some respects but he also hits some very nice passes, intelligent ones which progress play, and has actually made a few goals too. I’d like him to be a bit more nimble, but I think, though Dembele he may not be, he’s a very good all rounder who will complement most midfield partners.

Where he’s been bypassed this season is that we’ve often been set up a) to let the other side have the ball and b) with him doing the work of an entire midfield. Had we been set up to keep possession and play further from our goal, I think he’d have had a better time of it in those games where he struggled. I think if you’re going for the single pivot, you have to do so in a situation where that player isn’t constantly called into action because you’ve got under 40% of the ball.

I do agree on Skipp, I think he may show that he can do anything Højbjerg can do but with more athleticism and pace. I also think that, had Lo Celso been fit this season, he’d have been the most common partner for Højbjerg and while I suspect GLC is more suited to a 3 (save as Ndombele, Sissoko, Winks), he’s also the best rounded of Højbjerg’s potential midfield partners and both players would’ve benefited from playing together.


I think GLC is a better player in a deeper role than his attacking role, we already have lot of attacking players but whatever the system hasn't been fair for Hojbjerg with the tactic of parking two buses and him expected to be the one to win the ball. It's why he can be played around because the other teams are all in our half of the pitch for such long periods. For that tactic we need lots of good tackling midfield players and not just one.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I think you do him a slight disservice. He’sa little agricultural in some respects but he also hits some very nice passes, intelligent ones which progress play, and has actually made a few goals too. I’d like him to be a bit more nimble, but I think, though Dembele he may not be, he’s a very good all rounder who will complement most midfield partners.

Where he’s been bypassed this season is that we’ve often been set up a) to let the other side have the ball and b) with him doing the work of an entire midfield. Had we been set up to keep possession and play further from our goal, I think he’d have had a better time of it in those games where he struggled. I think if you’re going for the single pivot, you have to do so in a situation where that player isn’t constantly called into action because you’ve got under 40% of the ball.

I do agree on Skipp, I think he may show that he can do anything Højbjerg can do but with more athleticism and pace. I also think that, had Lo Celso been fit this season, he’d have been the most common partner for Højbjerg and while I suspect GLC is more suited to a 3 (save as Ndombele, Sissoko, Winks), he’s also the best rounded of Højbjerg’s potential midfield partners and both players would’ve benefited from playing together.


I absolutely do not deny that his midfield partners haven't exactly helped his cause. It's been an absolute clusterfuck of a season & I understand I'm almost certainly being unfair when judging anyone who's played a significant part in it. It's been disjointed and almost haphazard.

As I said. It'll be interesting to see what happens with him next season. If Skipp can be the ying to his yang & help to share the workload, that'll be great for everyone concerned.
 

punkisback

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I think you do him a slight disservice. He’sa little agricultural in some respects but he also hits some very nice passes, intelligent ones which progress play, and has actually made a few goals too. I’d like him to be a bit more nimble, but I think, though Dembele he may not be, he’s a very good all rounder who will complement most midfield partners.

Where he’s been bypassed this season is that we’ve often been set up a) to let the other side have the ball and b) with him doing the work of an entire midfield. Had we been set up to keep possession and play further from our goal, I think he’d have had a better time of it in those games where he struggled. I think if you’re going for the single pivot, you have to do so in a situation where that player isn’t constantly called into action because you’ve got under 40% of the ball.

I do agree on Skipp, I think he may show that he can do anything Højbjerg can do but with more athleticism and pace. I also think that, had Lo Celso been fit this season, he’d have been the most common partner for Højbjerg and while I suspect GLC is more suited to a 3 (save as Ndombele, Sissoko, Winks), he’s also the best rounded of Højbjerg’s potential midfield partners and both players would’ve benefited from playing together.
Agree with this he is good as a regular Cm and is technically good enough to play. The only thing he really lacks is a bit of agility and perhaps Skipp coming in for him to be rotated.
 

Cochise

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He's not going anywhere. He's technically good enough for a different approach than how Mourinho set us up and whilst I am excited to see how Skipp does, the lad has still only got a season of Championship football under his belt.
 

Bump

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Unpopular as this will be, I have a feeling that, if we get a manager who likes a more technical approach to the game, Hojbjerg will struggle to fit into the plans.

For Mourinho-ball, he's practically perfect. He's a wrecker, nothing wrong with that, he's pretty damn decent at it. But I've said before, what I (personally) see, is a player who's kind of a blend of Dier & Winks. Loves a tackle & keeps things simple, but is often glided past by technical players & resorts to petty little fouls to stop them.

I'll look on with intrigue next season. But if Skipp continues the upwards trajectory that his loan has put him on, I have a feeling Hojbjerg will be looking very cautiously over his shoulder.

Also, although Italian media are full of shit. I'd imagine, if the rumours about Mourinho wanting him are true, they would have to pay significantly more than the £15M we got him for. Again, that could appeal to the new manager, should he feel he wants a more technical option, but with the understandable financial restrictions due to Covid.

Before I get the expected abuse. I've not once said he's a bad player, or that we should be looking to sell him. He's very good at what he does do.

I think that if we get a manager that has us pressing up high, then you will see him get even better. Try and keep an eye on him in the remaining games, he is fantastic at reading passes and pressing midfielders.
 

Hazelton

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He'll be fine. We seriously need to stop picking holes in the likes of Hojbjerg, Lloris, Son, Kane, Ndombele etc when there are so many bigger problems in this squad.

Before joining us, Hojbjerg played for Southampton, who play a pressing, possession game, and Pep's Bayern Munich. You could argue that this season under Mourinho was actually the exception. He's clearly a very clever player who would do a job in any system or role asked of him.
 

agrdavidsfan

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Aug 25, 2005
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Never ever have I seen a teams fans overrate a player so much, leaves holes all over our midfield by shooting out and pressing them getting beat so easy.

He’s then like a slug to get back and when he gets there acts bemused as to what just happened

he’s not a defensive midfielder, he’s a ball winning midfielder.

the amount of times he slows everything down and turns and passes it back is a joke as well he makes Scott Parker look like prime pirlo
 
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