Albertbarich
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He's a totally Galatasary signing and makes the Dan James links make far more sense.
Player Watch Player Watch - Lucas Moura
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Johno1470
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Over the last two seasons, I had a look at the numbers of Lucas vs rumoured replacements.
Lucas - 5 goals and 10 assists (15GA) 3169 minutes played = Goal Involvement every 211 minutes
James - 7 goals 6 assists (13GA) 3402 minutes played = Goal involvement every 261 minutes
Traore - 3 goal 3 assists (6GA) 3691 minutes played = Goal involvement every 615 minutes
Overall, they're three average players that each have their own strengths. I would be happy to offload Moura as he just doesn't have any room for improvement and has had multiple chances. Traore would obviously bring a completely unique skillset but likely add to the criticism that our right wing back can't cross i.e. Emerson.
James - I've hardly every watched him and he is only 24. The bulk of his minutes were whilst playing for Leeds, who were awful last season.
If we can bring in someone else like a Carassco, it would be ideal. Though if we can offload Lucas for either James or Traore, we'd be signing a player who's primary goal is to assist and would be more adept at playing RWB.
GetSpurredOn
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The case of Lucas Moura is a strange one. Realistically he is a step down from our regular front 3 (front 4 when you now include Richarlison) so that needs to be taken into account when talking about rotating to keep the others fit. However he does appear to work very hard, seems popular with the rest of the squad, and doesn’t make a fuss about not being a regular starter.
Also worth remembering, goal involvements needs some context.
Lucas Moura feeding Kane/Son likely to have a better output than James playing into Bamford/Rodrigo.
Also worth remembering, goal involvements needs some context.
Lucas Moura feeding Kane/Son likely to have a better output than James playing into Bamford/Rodrigo.
Dembele'Disciple
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Lets give him a run at RWB, what's there to lose? If he can defend well from there we're on to a winner.
Japhet
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No links to Dan James make sense. I'd have Lucas Moura ahead of him 300%.
jpascavitz
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Yeah in my head (I've squashed it with the various no's) but when we got the Yannick Carrasco news some said certain things would have to fall into place.
I instantly thought if Lucas were to head out as well as Gil or possibly even one of the RWBs then we could trigger Carrasco's release clause and Carrasco can challenge at wingback and provide depth at forward, similar to Perisic on the other side, making all the HG/non-HG numbers line up with the addition of Sarr, etc.
Or separately, Dan James coming in as a PL experienced player would make sense like for like for Gil but then that would be 2 in, so think that is farfetched - just was my thinking however
AtoubaToothpaste
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As is highlighted in the post above, Moura is superior to both Traore and James. Also, he's a legit legend of the club, a thoroughly nice guy, and a hugely positive influence. I'd be furious if he were let go--unless it was his choice, of course. I'd love for him to stay until the end of his contract and eventually come back as a coach. He may not be a world-class talent and frustrating at times, but he can also be sublime and will play literally anywhere and put in absolute effort. That's not to be underestimated, IMHO, considering some players we've had lately who phone it in.
Led Revolver
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Was Mourinho not a big fan of Lucas? Perhaps we can involve him in some kind of deal for Zaniolo?
EQP
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Only player Mourinho is interested in swapping with us is Oliver Skipp.
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When is his documentary on SpursPlay due to air? I reckon that's going to be fascinating.
spursfan77
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Any links of him going have to be bollocks. Common sense tells you that. Just because we will have zero time to bring anyone else as good in.
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I watched his new documentary on Spurs Play. A little bit vanilla but really interesting to see where he comes from, his family, and how highly regarded he was/is in Brazil. Of course you get to that game, and... well, its not just his eyes that start tearing up again.
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SandroClegane
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You might need to see a medical professional if tears are coming out of other orifices, that doesn't sound healthy.
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If I were to read that sentence in that way, why would I need a doctor?
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fortworthspur
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we will need him this season. we really dont have any other experienced attacking players to bring on when we need a goal and Kane/Kulu/Son/Richarlison are spent.
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Colonel_Klinck
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He’s an evangelical Christian like their president. They tend to be bigots as well. This is what religious extremists tend to be.
Locotoro
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Genuine question.
Why is it so important to people to have a footballer play for their team that shares their political, socio-economic or religious viewpoint even though these people have come from exceptionally different upbringings, difficult environments and cultures that are completely different from our own relative privilege in the western world?
If you go over to R/COYS they practically want to hang the guy for his view which is ironic seeing as they are mostly proclaiming themselves to be liberal progressives.
Isn't it obvious that harsh environments create harsh viewpoints. And the only way to change that viewpoint is to expose the person to all the good that is within that group that he/she so ignorantly is against. Under the guise of freedom of speech Lucas is surely entitled to his opinion and to share it when he is asked so long as he's not inciting hatred and violence. Otherwise, I'd question which approach was closer to being authoritarian.
Saying "get him out of my club" is only polarising the issue more. Whereas opening dialogue and educating people on multiple perspectives is much more beneficial and effective.
Not directed at anyone here. I'm just not a fan of cancel culture and the response on Reddit and Twitter
Why is it so important to people to have a footballer play for their team that shares their political, socio-economic or religious viewpoint even though these people have come from exceptionally different upbringings, difficult environments and cultures that are completely different from our own relative privilege in the western world?
If you go over to R/COYS they practically want to hang the guy for his view which is ironic seeing as they are mostly proclaiming themselves to be liberal progressives.
Isn't it obvious that harsh environments create harsh viewpoints. And the only way to change that viewpoint is to expose the person to all the good that is within that group that he/she so ignorantly is against. Under the guise of freedom of speech Lucas is surely entitled to his opinion and to share it when he is asked so long as he's not inciting hatred and violence. Otherwise, I'd question which approach was closer to being authoritarian.
Saying "get him out of my club" is only polarising the issue more. Whereas opening dialogue and educating people on multiple perspectives is much more beneficial and effective.
Not directed at anyone here. I'm just not a fan of cancel culture and the response on Reddit and Twitter
HildoSpur
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I agree with this - Bolsonaro is clearly very popular with many Brazilians - as much as we might not like that it is a fact. What a players personal political/religious views may be, this is totally irrelevant to playing football and is essentially none of our business.
Locotoro
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I know exactly why bolsonaro is popular as I've been told by the multitude of Brazilians I work with.
He's the "tough on crime" candidate - in a country that has an appalling record on criminal justice. For Brazilians today crime and public safety is an exponentially bigger problem than gay rights. Therefore, the guy who solved the bigger problem gets their support.
One of my colleagues who is gay and lives in Brazil told me he supported Bolsonaro because whilst he was anti gay he was making Brazil a safer place. "I can't be gay if I'm dead because someone has killed me for my mobile phone so it's an easy choice".
From our western perch, I think we sometimes fail to see the context of how these "strongman" figures get their support even when they have views that we consider regressive and backwards. Simply because there are other issues that their public generally considers to be of greater importance.
