Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

Gb160 said:

Exactly, there's a very good chance he's already told the club privately he'll honour his contract then ciao.

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PLTuck said:

Well he's started a wider conversation. I think he's right although the timing of it was unfortunate.

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DanielJohnCosta said:

for me, I don't want anyone else but the manager speaking to the media. Why the fuck should any club be explaining how they are operating their footballing club, keep that shit behind closed doors. It goes for managers too, I'd only ever want my manager talking about the football, I don't want to divulge who targets are, etc. It gives advantages to the opp.

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Gb160 said:

It's never dull is it? supporting Spurs.

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DanielJohnCosta said:

for me, I don't want anyone else but the manager speaking to the media. Why the fuck should any club be explaining how they are operating their footballing club, keep that shit behind closed doors. It goes for managers too, I'd only ever want my manager talking about the football, I don't want to divulge who targets are, etc. It gives advantages to the opp.

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McFlash said:

I get that but then the media need to stop asking the managers about off field stuff, like the example of Pep being asked about ffp, or Howe being asked about the owners.

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RJR1949 said:

Conte is almost certainly off at the end of the season.

The Guardian quotes him saying this:

“When you work and the work is at the top of your mind and in your head, maybe we forget to stay with the family and friends. This is our passion and for the passion we lost a lot of things. But when this situation happens, you start to think that maybe it is good to give more time to your family and friends, and also to yourself. The work is not everything in life.”

So some big questions for Levy/Paratici:

Is it worth while throwing money at Conte (personally and in terms of transfers) to try to make him stay or should the club accept his heart just isn’t in it anymore?

Who is next as manager? A win-now manager like Conte/Mourinho or a manager who will build a team over a couple of seasons?

How should the prospect of a change of manager affect plans for this transfer window?

Levy/Paratici will already be talking with prospective new managers - they would be derelict in their duty if they were not.

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Gb160 said:

It's never dull is it? supporting Spurs.

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RJR1949 said:

Conte is almost certainly off at the end of the season.

The Guardian quotes him saying this:

“When you work and the work is at the top of your mind and in your head, maybe we forget to stay with the family and friends. This is our passion and for the passion we lost a lot of things. But when this situation happens, you start to think that maybe it is good to give more time to your family and friends, and also to yourself. The work is not everything in life.”

So some big questions for Levy/Paratici:

Is it worth while throwing money at Conte (personally and in terms of transfers) to try to make him stay or should the club accept his heart just isn’t in it anymore?

Who is next as manager? A win-now manager like Conte/Mourinho or a manager who will build a team over a couple of seasons?

How should the prospect of a change of manager affect plans for this transfer window?

Levy/Paratici will already be talking with prospective new managers - they would be derelict in their duty if they were not.

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McFlash said:

I get that but then the media need to stop asking the managers about off field stuff, like the example of Pep being asked about ffp, or Howe being asked about the owners.

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Dakes said:

When losing people close to you, it really helps to be with your loved ones. This is a really bad period for Conte. He missed his family surely before suffering those losses, now he's lost friends on top of that and needs the comforting presence of his family. With all that going on, he still has to get a football team to win matches.

For his own sake, I hope he returns home. I would have loved him to stay because I believe he's the best man out there to bring us glory, but the timing just really stinks.

He can't lift the team, it's clear that he's down. He's one of the most renowned lifters of players, getting them geed up. But how can he do that now considering the circumstances?

Regrettably, we have to think post Conte now.

I appreciate him coming to little old Spurs and wanting to lift us higher.

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carlosspurs said:

Great response by the way !! If your interpretation is right, and the plan is as articulated. Then it feels to me that Levy either needs to communicate the above very clearly .. As I would hazard a guess that most (including me) do not believe he gets out of the way of the DoF and is unable to remove himself from the most important item that will ultimately lead to team success - player recruitment/selling etc etc .

I think it’s strange how FP is nowhere to be seen or heard. How former DoF or equivalent staff Mitchel etc all left (the question as to why needs to be considered). Guess is the interference by Mr Levy, maybe I am wrong.
The way the predictable negotiations are reported with player Y or Z .. It’s the same old, same old as to not paying the price required regardless of “game changing” infrastructure. This I struggle to believe is FP (although nobody can be sure) although this was happening before FP was at the club.

The removal of Jose before the Cup Final , to me suggests that him thinking as a fan is not likely. Who wanted Mason to be in charge of that game and jeopardise a trophy ?

Regardless of manager or head coach - success requires everyone to understand the plan, get behind it and focus on their areas of responsibility. Do i believe Levy has set a clear strategy for Paratici, Conte and not changed as things have progressed, no I don’t. Think this is why there has been a change AC demeanour and FP is nowhere to be seen.

Levy has a achieved a lot , but he’s getting in the way of further progression in my opinion. The next 2 weeks will be interesting and telling.

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arthurgrimsdell said:

Fair enough.

You state that FP is nowhere to be seen, but that also applies to DL, in as much as neither are available for quotes (an AC complaint), though both are "hiding in plain sight" at home matches and often at away matches.

We'll have to agree to disagree on Mourinho's sacking "jeopardising a trophy". In my view, we had little or no chance in that final, with or without JM, and although the performance by the team on the day was poor, that was consistent with the way we had been playing under Mourinho. There were instances in that game, including a potential red card, which could have changed its complexion. Plus we did not concede until the 82nd minute. So it could be argued that we did better without JM than we would have done with him. I also have to declare an interest in that I had been hoping beyond hope for weeks if not months that JM should be sacked because of our poor play, and was heartily relieved when it happened: final or no final.

What I struggle with is the general consensus of Levy "interference", "same old same old" and "no long-term vision" with the simultaneous frustration of journalists and ITK that they can't get any information about what's going on because their usual sources are "being forced" to keep schtum. There is a conflict there, and it all therefore seems to have to be based on hearsay, rumour and 20 year old quotes.

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DanielJohnCosta said:

for me, I don't want anyone else but the manager speaking to the media. Why the fuck should any club be explaining how they are operating their footballing club, keep that shit behind closed doors. It goes for managers too, I'd only ever want my manager talking about the football, I don't want to divulge who targets are, etc. It gives advantages to the opp.

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jimbo said:

Leaving aside other considerations, which I think I've already posted on this, I believe that if a manager gets you to a final he should be allowed to manage the team in that final.

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