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andyp8080

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Ultimately I think we can all basically agree on one thing. Being manager of Tottenham and working under Levy brings its own set of unique circumstances

Which is why I think Poch is the man for the job. At least he knows what he is letting himself in for
 

fishhhandaricecake

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The problem is that’s exactly what we all thought of Conte (maybe outside of the nice football bit haha) before he came in. Short term-ism only works if your willing to throw cash at it like Chelsea to sustain it.

Our only actual shots at silverware in the last decade came under the reign of a manager who prioritised youth, developed talent and grew a team over several years. We know it works, so let’s do it but this time adding in the extra financial muscle we have. If Brighton can challenge for Europe under this model, no reason we can’t win leagues and trophies doing it with our size as a club.

It’s all about vision and guts though to ride the rough times. Something Levy sadly doesn’t have on the footballing side.
All true I’m just playing devils advocate.

Also we’ve done 2/3 of the rebuild under Jose and conte so this could be the final push and the football being more watchable would make a big difference to the general atmosphere and likelyhood of a new manager potentially succeeding.

Also I’ve never thought of Tuchel as a check book manager like Conte and Jose.

He’s certainly not my first choice but I do think he’s not the same as Jose and Conte 🤷‍♂️
 

curlacious

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If I was appointing a new manager I'd interview their current or former players.

I want a manager that players love, football-wise and life-wise.
 

C0YS

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Trix, my attempt to define what this means in 2023 terms is this: Coach who sets the team up to play attacking football, wants technical players all around the park (not your brute athletes), record of improving and promoting youth, tactically adaptable and willing to work within a certain financial constraints in the transfer market.
Sounds a lot like Tuchel in Germany. Though tuchel likes an athlete.

Thing is Conte hasnt really failed. In the sense what he is achieving is not bellow where you would expect. Most managers wont 'succeed'.

There are maybe reasons to not look at Tuchel, but the fact that he has won things, and conte has won things, and Mourinho has won things doesnt mean the three are an interchangable style of managers. They are not. All 3 have a different vision and understanding of football. Tuchel likes possession and pressing, the other two prefer to play quick transitions, often better without the ball. Stylistically there is a difference.

The biggest question mark over tuchel is, which you did refer to, is his personality. How will the players react to him? But I dunno.
 

Real_madyidd

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What does it mean, without going back to quotes from the 1960's?


Blanchflower said of football: "The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom

1972, and still correct.
 

YB123

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Matt Law (who's been good for Spurs stuff)

Says list is

Enrique
Tuchel
Poch
De Zerbi
Big Ange
Glasner
Frank

Probably in that order
 

dude573

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He sacked a cup winning machine 7 days before a cup final to replace him with a 29 year old with no experience.

Would we have won it? Not sure.

But it goes under the radar as one of the worst footballing decisions I think I've seen from any football chairman.
No doubt we could have won it. But the same elite winner oversaw us blow a 2-0 lead to Zagreb and didn't make it past the 5th round of the FA Cup - the previous season we were eliminated to Norwich at home.

Not saying it was his fault completely, but the point stands that success elsewhere does not translate to Spurs. We need to stop appointing big name managers who have succeeded at money clubs.
 

ajspurs

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Oh I agree 100%. Tuchel is the wrong fit for us.

But I didn't realise his record getting to finals was that good.

You can see why Levy might be swayed.

I know you know this so not directed at you but after Jose and Conte I just really hope it's not the way we're looking at things. "He's done this at those clubs/won these trophies/gotten to these finals" etc. Hopefully we're looking deeper and much more closely at things like footballing philosophy, player development, youth involvement, man management, team building and such.

Do not like the links to Tuchel at all really.
 

Trent Crimm

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Matt Law (who's been good for Spurs stuff)

Says list is

Enrique
Tuchel
Poch
De Zerbi
Big Ange
Glasner
Frank

Probably in that order

I think Ange would be right laugh. End in tears (who won’t) but think of the marketing side. We can infect a whole new country.
 

sidford

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Can't see why Tuchel would come here. His stock is very high and he has a very good chance of getting either real Madrid or Bayern job in the summer. If Poch gets one of them Tuchel is probably going to get the other.

Levy might be forced to go the project manager route now as it's difficult to see which top managers would chose to come here now given issues with Paratici, Kanes contract and another big name manager failing to win or look like winning anything with us.

Reckon Levy will get rejected now even more than he did when he had to eventually relent on appointing Nuno because pretty much every other manager said no thanks.
 

Rosco1984

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Typical jumping on the bandwagon piece i'd assume. Absolute nonsense to think the vast majority of managers wouldn't love the chance to manage us.
after seeing two constant winners reputations ruined I would have questions myself as much as I think they are frauds without big money backing.
 

Metalhead

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Tuchel be appointed would be everything wrong with this club in one go. A man who falls out easily with others, play mostly boring pragmatic football or at least did with Chelsea. He is a great manager tactically and I am sure we would get a new manager bounce but we will be back here after he is fired having the same need for a project manager who plays a brand of football that we can stomach long term.

it would show we only care about scraping top 4 at the expense of literally everything else.
On the positive side though, he does have a firm handshake.
 

Thenewcat

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I somewhat agree and disagree . Yeh jansenn was an absoloute stinker and a few others but they were Hitchens and the committees signings as well as pochs . He turned down many good players and bad players so is stubborn In that respect but having nearly had frankie de jong in the summer we didn’t sign anyone in the last few weeks which I’m not sure a lot of you will know to replace dembele that was poch no 1 target and the club didn’t get it done . Mane another one . Grealish there was many good players he wanted . I think the money spent on tanguy and Lo celso has left a sour taste with his talent IQ but it’s not as bad as it seems many good players he wanted and gettable .
This is very interesting and makes me reevaluate my view on Poch coming back somewhat. If we had bought him Mane and De Jong we wouldn’t still be talking about a trophy drought. I always thought Mane was a big miss given he had played for Poch before, cost the same money as Sissoko and we were better than Liverpool at the time.

Even the big misses were somewhat understandable and hurt more because the squad had been allowed to go stale already. Ndombele obviously has all the talent in the world, whilst I still think GLC would have been a success if he been brought into a stable environment and avoided injury. I don’t want to give Poch (or any manager) carte Blanche on signings but I think his problems in the market are overstated
 

DiVaio

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First time in I dont know how long where I feel the non-Spurs journos are really putting the pressure on Levy and can see what majority of us have seen for years.

Matt Law was always doing this lol
 
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