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Nine while nine · Mar 31, 2023

felmani26 said:
I'd love to know what Tier Alan Brazil is deemed to be

Weigh Tier

Or possibly

Thirs Tier

For the love of Spurs · Mar 31, 2023

felmani26 said:
I'd love to know what Tier Alan Brazil is deemed to be

He is Greggs level ITK.

septicsac · Mar 31, 2023

Nagggglesmannn, Company or Puch, whoever us available will do

On a serious note, I doubt we will have a choice of many, the state the club is in at the minute will likely put a few off, unless we throw plenty of money at it.

jpascavitz · Mar 31, 2023

spursfan77 said:
Is there much of a difference between the experience of Kompany and Slot?

One has never managed in England and the premier league while the other although only two years in has a decade of PL winning football as a player under his belt.

Sure Slot is probably the more experienced but it isn’t by that much.

IMO no. Between Slot, Gallardo, Ange, and Kompany - they all have qualities that seem to fit with our club's DNA and their style of football they try to play. They all have some sort of risk attached to them, could flop, or could fail to command the respect of bigger ego players currently at the club.

I have my preferences but have been saying if we do end up with any of those four, it's more important that they're backed and given time over anything. We're not going to see success instantly most likely.

Whoever comes in next (on top of everything else) has an aging Heung Min Son, who likely will be coming off one of his worst seasons at the club, and Harry Kane with less than 1 year left on his contract. Does the incoming manager expect them both to head out and start completely fresh or is it that new incoming's manager job to convince them to stay and get them firing, while buying into the philosophy?

danielneeds · Mar 31, 2023

DiVaio said:
Kompany would also immediately be right under pressure after a few bad results? Ultimately Slot is much better and proven manager than Kompany

No, you see the stay the likes of Lampard and Gerrard got. Even Arteta got some leeway because of his history. Slot's got a bit more experience, but the Championship is a much more competitive league than the Eredivisie and it's not even close.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Mar 31, 2023

septicsac said:
On a serious note, I doubt we will have a choice of many, the state the club is in at the minute will likely put a few off, unless we throw plenty of money at it.

I keep reading this and don’t agree. All top managers have egos. They’ll see a top 6 club in the most competitive league in the world and believe they can be the one to take us to another level.

All this ‘we’re in a complete mess’ rhetoric is all relative. Win the next 2-3 matches no one will be saying shit.

We still have a talented squad, amazing facilities etc….

THE SPURSBOY · Mar 31, 2023

Levy has one get out here and that is to get Nagelsmann. If he doesn’t gonna be so toxic next home game esp if we lose to Everton

George94 · Mar 31, 2023

JacoZA said:
Slot’s dismissal from AZ strikes me as a red flag. Considering the attention Poch got once he started doing well for us, would we really want a guy who got sacked for talking to another club while under contract?

I’d just be pleased we have a manager who is actually wanted by other clubs again due to the job he’s doing

danielneeds · Mar 31, 2023

Trent Crimm said:
this current squad respect nobody. Look at the managers they have seen off- if they don’t like something they go running to levy and the cycle continues.

That's all on Levy IMO for allowing that culture to seep in. If he said, "Talk to the coach, leave me out of it," it would stop in a heartbeat.

Trent Crimm · Mar 31, 2023

danielneeds said:
That's all on Levy IMO for allowing that culture to seep in. If he said, "Talk to the coach, leave me out of it," it would stop in a heartbeat.

I agree. But until that changes it doesn’t matter who the coach is Moses, Burt Reynolds’s, some soldiers.

all ends the same way.

danielneeds · Mar 31, 2023

Trent Crimm said:
I agree. But until that changes it doesn’t matter who the coach is Moses, Burt Reynolds’s, some soldiers.

all ends the same way.

Yeah, but we all know Levy is incapable of change. The only way around it now is a positive, galvanising manager, who brings the squad together with a unifying purpose of playing high-energy attacking football that gets the players excited.

rossdapep · Mar 31, 2023

spurs9 said:
Here is a bit about him.

His first job was as AZ's manager (where he had been an assistant for 2 years). He took over a side that finished 4th the previous year and finished his first season in 2nd. They were actually tied on points with 1st place Ajax, who won it on goal difference, in a season that finished 9 games early due to Covid.

He was sacked from AZ 1/3 of the way through his 2nd season due to having talks with Feyenoord about joining them.

At the end of that season he took over Feyenoord, who had finished 5 the season before, and took them to 3rd and also got them to the conference league final, narrowly losing 1-0 to Roma.

This season he has Feyenoord 6 points clear of 2nd place Ajax with 8 games to go and his the toughest league game he has remaining is away vs 6th place Sparta. They are also in the semi final of the dutch cup (v Ajax) and semi final of the Europa league v Roma.

His team play an front foot attacking style with quick passing and movement (check out the video below).

I think he would be a great fit, however I have some reservations:
He has only been a manager for 3 seasons, so lacks experience.
Personally, I would prefer someone who has been able to get his team over the line in some cups and, ideally a league title, just to show the can get the winning mentality into players.

That said, if he does win the league, dutch cup and Europa League, he would jump up into my top 3 along with Gallardo and Nagelsmann.

Edit: Despite being considered one of the big 3, winning the title with Feyenoord would be a big achievement, as it would only be their 2nd win in 23 years.

I watched the highlights of AZ vs United from EL in 2019/20. They absolutely dominated the first game but couldn't score.

The second game, at Old Trafford, they were very good for 50 mins but then got done by United's quality and then conceded 4 in 11 minutes.

Perhaps with better quality they would have seen off United when they were on top.

United actually got away with 2 dubious penalty calls and then got one themselves, as well as a dodgy free-kick that led to a goal, so AZ were very unlucky.

His Feyenoord team were unlucky against Roma in the final too. It was a typical Mourinho show, low block and catch the opposition out despite Roma having more quality. Feyenoord hit the post twice but were never going to have the quality to reverse a 1-0 Mourinho deficit.

My concerns are that when his team concede they concede in succession.

A lot of 3-3, 4-4, 2-2 draws, or narrow 3-2 wins and defeats.

Although, to be fair, this season they seem to have won more games comfortably.

rossdapep · Mar 31, 2023

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
That piss head knows nothing

He was probably bladdered and having a conversation with a rock.

chrisd2k · Mar 31, 2023

For the love of Spurs said:
He is Greggs level ITK.

Somewhere below Barber shop ITK possibly

Ghost Hardware · Mar 31, 2023

jpascavitz said:
IMO no. Between Slot, Gallardo, Ange, and Kompany - they all have qualities that seem to fit with our club's DNA and their style of football they try to play. They all have some sort of risk attached to them, could flop, or could fail to command the respect of bigger ego players currently at the club.

I have my preferences but have been saying if we do end up with any of those four, it's more important that they're backed and given time over anything. We're not going to see success instantly most likely.

Whoever comes in next (on top of everything else) has an aging Heung Min Son, who likely will be coming off one of his worst seasons at the club, and Harry Kane with less than 1 year left on his contract. Does the incoming manager expect them both to head out and start completely fresh or is it that new incoming's manager job to convince them to stay and get them firing, while buying into the philosophy?

I think you have to add JN, De Zerbi, Enrique and Amorim to that list. They are all a risk for different reasons as you suggest. I would say tho that there is a different risk factor involved with Slot and Kompany. Both are very inexperienced in comparison. Slot for example only has four years managing experience and has never managed or played outside of Holland. He has also had no experience of working with big name players. Considering what we will be asking our manager to achieve that certainly makes Slot and Komapany in the riskier category. Both look very promising and seem to be doing good things but they are still very green.

andyp8080 · Mar 31, 2023

So it’s Friday afternoon……that means it’s nearly beer o’clock with the lads for our “Friday club”

can’t wait for all the Spurs mickey taking

YB123 · Mar 31, 2023

andyp8080 said:
So it’s Friday afternoon……that means it’s nearly beer o’clock with the lads for our “Friday club”

can’t wait for all the Spurs mickey taking

I'd join in with them!

DiVaio · Mar 31, 2023

danielneeds said:
No, you see the stay the likes of Lampard and Gerrard got. Even Arteta got some leeway because of his history. Slot's got a bit more experience, but the Championship is a much more competitive league than the Eredivisie and it's not even close.

Yeah and Lampard and Gerrard both were sacked when they were in crisis, Arteta got some leeway because most of his games were played behind closed doors not because of his history.

Trent Crimm · Mar 31, 2023

It won’t be the Celtic guy. He’s too scruffy for levy. He likes em tight and toasty.

PrettyColors · Mar 31, 2023

Which players are worth building around, by the way? More important than the manager is knowing who we can rely upon. I made a list.

Undeniably Elite:
Kane
Rodrigo
Romero

Good, need the correct tactics to shine:
Kulusevski
Porro
Richarlison
Sarr
Son?

Need more evaluation:
Bissouma
Udogie
Danjuma
Skipp

Reliable but meh:
Davies
Hojbjerg
Dier
Forster
Emerson Royal
Sessegnon
Lenglet

Not going to cut it:
Sanchez
Perisic
Lloris
Tanganga

so looking at that. Do we even have a core of the team to build around? We have Bentancur, Romero, a wantaway Kane, and that’s basically it for the elite tier.

Compare that back to 2014 with Poch, we had Kane, Eriksen, Walker, Jan, Toby, Lloris, Mousa… 6 legitimately good players we knew we could trust.

we now have only 3-4 players we know are truly good enough.

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