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Now it's Spursonal · Apr 9, 2023

daryl said:
Name me a manager who gets to a champions league final with almost zero net spend, nearly wins the league with a zero net spend, in England btw where there’s more money spent than anywhere,, And then show me a load of brain dead idiots to talk utter bollox about him,, from the club he almost achieved the impossible for,,,,,,,,,,,,

I love Poch, as every Spurs fan should. What he did for our club was fantastic and I don’t think many managers at that time could have achieved what he did.

However, I don’t think he’s the right manager for now.
What Poch brings to the table is fantastic man management and a great high press team.
What Poch probably lacks is an elite tactical mind where he’s able to tweak tactics in game to adjust the outcome. For example I can remember the constant complaints about his lack of substitutes etc. And also despite having the best 11 in the league at the time imo, still losing a lot to the more elite tactical managers.

Maybe I’m asking for too much, but I would hope that there is a manager out there that could bring to the table what Poch brought, i.e man management and high press, but also can bring a great tactical mind to the table aswell!

On the singing for Poch, I can completely understand it as we’re all longing for the good ol’ days again. But I just don’t think Poch is the man to do that for us anymore.

It would be like if Leicester were singing Claudio Ranieri chants at the weekend.

nav007_2000 · Apr 9, 2023

daryl said:
Name me a manager who gets to a champions league final with almost zero net spend, nearly wins the league with a zero net spend, in England btw where there’s more money spent than anywhere,, And then show me a load of brain dead idiots to talk utter bollox about him,, from the club he almost achieved the impossible for,,,,,,,,,,,,

Well said

Ghost Hardware · Apr 9, 2023

Archibald-CPH said:
Also Gallardo? Where?

I think it was Thursday night? Maybe Friday (can’t remember which now) all the ITKs were about and one said he wasn’t on the list and that Levy had talked to him a number of times but he was concerned about him only managing in SA and felt he needed to come here first. The other two itk’s didn’t contest the info so I’m assuming it’s true. Would really really suck tho if it is the case as I still think he’s by far the best choice and certainly no more risky then Slot and Postecoglou who, again according to ITK, are our top two choices.

Im just hoping this changes in the coming weeks.

daveduvet · Apr 9, 2023

Gassin's finest said:
You know what, I'm not that fussed about competitive. I'm just interested in enjoying going to watch football again.

Whether it's Hoddle waltzing past Oxford, Ronny Rocket hitting 4 against Southampton, Nielsen throwing himself to win against Leicester, Bale stealing Inter Milan's taxi, or Poch in tears in Amsterdam... There has always been something magic about supporting this club.

There's no magic right now. I want that back.

Hoddle waltzing past Oxford.. glory, glory Tottenham Hotspur

Keith Morris · Apr 9, 2023

Now it's Spursonal said:
I love Poch, as every Spurs fan should. What he did for our club was fantastic and I don’t think many managers at that time could have achieved what he did.

However, I don’t think he’s the right manager for now.
What Poch brings to the table is fantastic man management and a great high press team.
What Poch probably lacks is an elite tactical mind where he’s able to tweak tactics in game to adjust the outcome. For example I can remember the constant complaints about his lack of substitutes etc. And also despite having the best 11 in the league at the time imo, still losing a lot to the more elite tactical managers.

Maybe I’m asking for too much, but I would hope that there is a manager out there that could bring to the table what Poch brought, i.e man management and high press, but also can bring a great tactical mind to the table aswell!

On the singing for Poch, I can completely understand it as we’re all longing for the good ol’ days again. But I just don’t think Poch is the man to do that for us anymore.

It would be like if Leicester were singing Claudio Ranieri chants at the weekend.

This is the thing - SC is a fans forum and opinions are free here but those that say it’s the wrong time etc have no foundation to the agreement just that it doesn’t necessarily fit their current wants and needs. We are a fickle bunch us fans and I feel us spurs fans take it to another level at times, but you cannot ignore what Poch did for us, classic overachieving. Now I want nagelsman and then poch but either would be huge for us.

mil1lion · Apr 9, 2023

Happy to get Poch back. The way I see it we let the squad rot while he was here after Mitchell went and we lost the structure. We now have Munn and possibly Paratici in some capacity. We tried to make do with some top managers but even they struggled and did worse than Poch did with more signings. I don't get this whole 'never go back' nonsense. I don't know if it's some weird superstition people have but it's based on nothing. At the end of the day it's about whether the manager is right for the job. I would be happy with Poch, Slot or Nagelsmann, I think either of them would develop the young players we have and play attractive football again. The advantage of Poch is he knows the league, he knows the club and the fans adore him. I also like that there are some players who wont get yet another chance under a new manager. Poch would come in and already know what some of the old guard will bring him. He's also used to coming in and clearing out the bad , he just needs to do the same again, trim the squad and get a few first team signings.

YIDfromtheLANE · Apr 9, 2023

daryl said:
Name me a manager who gets to a champions league final with almost zero net spend, nearly wins the league with a zero net spend, in England btw where there’s more money spent than anywhere,, And then show me a load of brain dead idiots to talk utter bollox about him,, from the club he almost achieved the impossible for,,,,,,,,,,,,

Right on the money here.

Roberts84 · Apr 9, 2023

Darth Vega said:
I only put Allegri's name in there as an example of a tactically astute manager that got the better of Poch, he's the last manager we should be looking at hiring.

They beat us over two legs but tbh we were our own downfall with a couple of mistakes. We bossed them away. Allegri did not out smart us

Rosco1984 · Apr 9, 2023

daryl said:
Name me a manager who gets to a champions league final with almost zero net spend, nearly wins the league with a zero net spend, in England btw where there’s more money spent than anywhere,, And then show me a load of brain dead idiots to talk utter bollox about him,, from the club he almost achieved the impossible for,,,,,,,,,,,,

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN BADGE DINNER

For the love of Spurs · Apr 9, 2023

Poch or not we need someone to come in and do what Poch did at the start and what Ten Hag has begun at United. Tell the club the players that shouldn’t be here anymore, use the youth and if needed buy some more young players to supplement.

Lloris is finished, Dier and PEH are good servants of the club but at others teams would be bench players. Why the hell is it 4 years since Poch and we are still talking about a rebuild. This is shocking management from the club.

We need a manager with the right style and vision and a board that will back him and by back him I don’t mean spend a bit I mean get rid of those who need to go and get in players who will fit the future Tottenham.

The reason fans mention Poch is because he did that at the beginning and the club backed him to. It doesn’t need to be Poch but the Poch plan which by the way Arteta has done at Arsenal is the most workable with a club less than a Man City budget.

cliff jones · Apr 9, 2023

daveduvet said:
Hoddle waltzing past Oxford.. glory, glory Tottenham Hotspur

Dunno what you’re trying to say here pal but you couldn’t be less Spurs if you tried- if indeed you’re trying to take the piss?

jbstarr14 · Apr 9, 2023

teok said:
-Not wear "fashionable" clothes (Nagelsmann) was one I read.

A ‘full kit wanker’ like O’Neill or McCarthy (complete with shin pads ffs…)

Adam456 · Apr 9, 2023

McFlash said:
Yep, I just don't understand singing for a manager we don't have and not everybody wants.
I know plenty seem to like it but for me, it's a bit pathetic.

3 years of utterly turgid football without coming close to competing with a managerial vacancy and a sub-set of fans are singing for our most successful manager in a generation who played swashbuckling football but wasn't backed financially and who is currently jobless, lives in London and says he'd love to come back...oh ... and without first checking via a survey whether 100% of people agree with them

Utterly mental yeah

Darth Vega · Apr 9, 2023

Roberts84 said:
They beat us over two legs but tbh we were our own downfall with a couple of mistakes. We bossed them away. Allegri did not out smart us

Allegri made a substitution at 0-1 down in the 2nd leg and the entire game changed and they scored two gaols within about five minutes. I was there and it was immediately apparent something had shifted and we didn't react quick enough and that was the game done.

It doesn't really matter too much - I'm not saying Poch shouldn't come back because he didn't react to one specific substitution in one game, that would be ridiculous - but he got outwitted that day. Poch rarely made in-game changes to adapt. For all the complaining we've had this season of Conte being stubborn with his substitutions, Poch was exactly the same.

Poch is very much a disciple of Bielsa in that respect. There's Plan A and then when that doesn't work there's Plan B, which is do Plan A but even harder.

chrisd2k · Apr 9, 2023

nav007_2000 said:
Everyone keeps saying it’s not the right time. But when is the right time?
We’ve gone for Jose, Nuno and now Conte who all play boring defensive football.

Fans want the entertaining football back. There is only one person who knows the club inside out and loves the club. It’s Poch.

Why does the next person need to know the club inside out? Poch didn't when he took the job. There's plenty of attacking managers available.

This man twice decided to threaten to leave before the biggest game of our clubs history. Sulked for a year and started acting weird in press conferences over nothing. Not to mention never making any subs and the occasional dissapeance of a promising youth player. I don't want another dose thanks.

I think some of you are Poch fans first, and Spurs fans second. I have to be honest I just don't understand any of you at all. Imagine singing Poch songs when he hasn't been here for years, have a head rattle.

jbstarr14 · Apr 9, 2023

chrisd2k said:
Why does the next person need to know the club inside out? Poch didn't when he took the job. There's plenty of attacking managers available.

This man twice decided to threaten to leave before the biggest game of our clubs history. Sulked for a year and started acting weird in press conferences over nothing. Not to mention never making any subs and the occasional dissapeance of a promising youth player. I don't want another dose thanks.

I think some of you are Poch fans first, and Spurs fans second. I have to be honest I just don't understand any of you at all. Imagine singing Poch songs when he hasn't been here for years, have a head rattle.

‘Oh Ledley, Ledley…’

chrisd2k · Apr 9, 2023

dk-yid said:
Shelf Bar singing was all about Pochettino....

Even wrapped it into a Stellini Chant.

Not saying it's representative but it was quite clear.

The Shelf Bar you say? That changes everything

Stamford · Apr 9, 2023

spursfan77 said:
The problem we have if Poch did come back is that those who don’t want it to happen will jump on us massively every time we don’t win. They’ll forget all about the project and the rebuild in an attempt to say I told you so. It’s predictably childish but it will happen.

This is exactly what many on here and in the ground did on conte and Jose. Utterly pathetic

wishkah · Apr 9, 2023

does the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer

Roberts84 · Apr 9, 2023

Darth Vega said:
Allegri made a substitution at 0-1 down in the 2nd leg and the entire game changed and they scored two gaols within about five minutes. I was there and it was immediately apparent something had shifted and we didn't react quick enough and that was the game done.

It doesn't really matter too much - I'm not saying Poch shouldn't come back because he didn't react to one specific substitution in one game, that would be ridiculous - but he got outwitted that day. Poch rarely made in-game changes to adapt. For all the complaining we've had this season of Conte being stubborn with his substitutions, Poch was exactly the same.

Poch is very much a disciple of Bielsa in that respect. There's Plan A and then when that doesn't work there's Plan B, which is do Plan A but even harder.

I was there too. We also bossed them in the away leg and they were lucky to draw.
I keep hearing scousers say Klopp is too slow to make changes, it can be aimed at most managers.

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