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We don’t know.does the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer
We don’t know.does the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer
In the 16/17 Spurs made 3rd most subs in the league, we also had 4 points against Guardiola's City, 4 points against Wenger's Arsenal, 3 points against Conte's Chelsea with the better goal difference and ending their run of 13 wins in the row, 3 points against Mourinho's United with the same goal difference and 1 point against Klopp's Liverpool.What Poch probably lacks is an elite tactical mind where he’s able to tweak tactics in game to adjust the outcome. For example I can remember the constant complaints about his lack of substitutes etc. And also despite having the best 11 in the league at the time imo, still losing a lot to the more elite tactical managers.
Allegri made a substitution at 0-1 down in the 2nd leg and the entire game changed and they scored two gaols within about five minutes. I was there and it was immediately apparent something had shifted and we didn't react quick enough and that was the game done.
It doesn't really matter too much - I'm not saying Poch shouldn't come back because he didn't react to one specific substitution in one game, that would be ridiculous - but he got outwitted that day. Poch rarely made in-game changes to adapt. For all the complaining we've had this season of Conte being stubborn with his substitutions, Poch was exactly the same.
Poch is very much a disciple of Bielsa in that respect. There's Plan A and then when that doesn't work there's Plan B, which is do Plan A but even harder.
Singing at the home gamedoes the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer
does the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer
A different manager with a different and positive approach can completely transform average looking players.
Look at xakha at arse 2 years ago he was seen as a liability and goonies wanted him out of the club now he is having probably his best season for them.
We need to get this appointment right and I doubt very much poch is the answer.
It feels like a heart over head thing to me.
does the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer
As much as I love Poch, people easily forget the last year he was in charge. I'm telling you now, the place was toxic towards the end. Many of those players are still at the club and I think we need a completely new manager in, a different voice. All three managers I mentioned play attacking football, it's not only Poch who plays this kind of football. Add to this how stubborn Poch was over transfers and some very good players we missed out on because of that. I'll say it again, I love Poch, but then weighing everything up, I don't think now is the time for him to return. Maybe in 5-10 years when we have a completely different playing staff and the club has hopefully progressed further. Not everyone will agree with me thinking a Poch return now isn't the best move and that's natural, I may be completely wrong and his return could be brilliant, I just personally feel one of the managers I mentioned should be who we are pushing for.
No, it changes nothing. Just adding to the conversation and even mentioned that it wasn't representative..... Prick.The Shelf Bar you say? That changes everything
Who? Who are these players who will be issues if Poch comes back but not if we have another manager?As much as I love Poch, people easily forget the last year he was in charge. I'm telling you now, the place was toxic towards the end. Many of those players are still at the club and I think we need a completely new manager in, a different voice. All three managers I mentioned play attacking football, it's not only Poch who plays this kind of football. Add to this how stubborn Poch was over transfers and some very good players we missed out on because of that. I'll say it again, I love Poch, but then weighing everything up, I don't think now is the time for him to return. Maybe in 5-10 years when we have a completely different playing staff and the club has hopefully progressed further. Not everyone will agree with me thinking a Poch return now isn't the best move and that's natural, I may be completely wrong and his return could be brilliant, I just personally feel one of the managers I mentioned should be who we are pushing for.
Lots of varying ITK on him, one says he’s very keen on, and likely to go to, RM (which I think is most probable), some say he really wants to come here but we have no interest and an other has said he’s on the list but unlikely. I don’t think anyone has said he’s a probable option for us but it does seem to be ether we don’t want him or keeping him as a back up option.does the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer
Whatever it was the previous 15 times, it's the same now.does the poch talk have substance or is it based off singing at the game. I’d appreciate not reading 40 pages to figure out if someone can answer
Poch is the wrong answer for now. He knows it, and in our hearts we know it too.
The club needs somebody with absolutely no skin in the game. Somebody completely unburdened by the past, and with an objective approach to everything. Somebody who can easily imagine the future and what it might look like. That can’t be Poch right now.
To those wanting to speed up his return, believe me: there will be another crisis for Poch to return and save the day.
Yeah - to say our squad is broken is to assume a new manager can't get anything more at all out of the players who have looked shite under Conte.Tuchel taking over Lampard. Took them from 9th to top 4 and CL winners in just 4 months, using the exact same squad of players. Our current squad is not devoid of ability and talent, they are just absolutely shot on confidence and have been coached to not play. Mourinho, Nuno and Conte have had them set up to sit off and not play with the ball, just inviting wave after wave of attacks. You sit under that much pressure for any length of time, mistakes are inevitable. Watch them with the ball and they look like rabbits in the headlights, afraid to move of make a bold play because they have been coached specifically not to. Just needs someone to come in and take the shackles off, get them playing with more bravery, but actually working on it during the week, how to find and exploit space with the ball. You have more possession, you should restrict the amount of pressure your defence comes under.
Look at Kulusevski when he first came, bold, made things happen, being praised. Now playing very within himself. Last year we played Brighton, Bissouma bossed our midfield virtually on his own, this year he’s barely had a look in, and when he has he’s been largely uninspiring. Same player, but had the bravery coached out him. Who even knows what’s happened to Son.
A change of coach can extract more out of this bunch than we are currently seeing, but keeping Conte’s team in charge will not change anything.
I'm at a loss with that kind of thing. Were Ranieri's tactics contemporary when Leicester won the title? I've no idea but they certainly worked for that period of time.I've seen so many posts saying Conte, Jose and even Poch's style of football is outdated.
I'm just watching a Roy Hodgson pre match interview lol.
As much as I love Poch, people easily forget the last year he was in charge. I'm telling you now, the place was toxic towards the end. Many of those players are still at the club and I think we need a completely new manager in, a different voice. All three managers I mentioned play attacking football, it's not only Poch who plays this kind of football. Add to this how stubborn Poch was over transfers and some very good players we missed out on because of that. I'll say it again, I love Poch, but then weighing everything up, I don't think now is the time for him to return. Maybe in 5-10 years when we have a completely different playing staff and the club has hopefully progressed further. Not everyone will agree with me thinking a Poch return now isn't the best move and that's natural, I may be completely wrong and his return could be brilliant, I just personally feel one of the managers I mentioned should be who we are pushing for.