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Now it's Spursonal

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Look it’s just a reality we have to accept that any neutral manager would pick Chelsea over us.

When we first signed Pochettino from Southampton, if Chelsea had come in for him aswell then he’d 100% have picked them over us.
However, we were the best option available to him at the time. And then as time went on, the affection grew and he became attached to us.

We have to look at Nagelsmann or any other manager the exact same way.
Give them time and allow them to build up an affection for our club.
 
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fishhhandaricecake said:
Spot on mate. I think Rodgers just rubs people up the wrong way a bit but can’t fault his managerial career really, he’s done a good job everywhere he’s been he’s overachieved.
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Yeah I think he is a great option to fall back on, in fact I’d probably put him only behind Poch, Slot, Gallardo and Nags. In my wish list. I think he’d do fine for a few seasons.
 
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It's heartening that Nagelsmann has the principles to turn his back on the shitshow at Chelsea in spite of all the riches that would be available to him.

On the other hand Poch doesn't appear to have the same football integrity if he follows up PSG by going to Chelsea.
 
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Jamturk said:
It's heartening that Nagelsmann has the principles to turn his back on the shitshow at Chelsea in spite of all the riches that would be available to him.

On the other hand Poch doesn't appear to have the same football integrity if he follows up PSG by going to Chelsea.
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Agree with the first bit. Think it says something about his character that he turned down the carnage there to come here (if he does of course)
 
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If Nagelsmann is keen then it's a no-brainer tbh.

I understand the worry about having top managers who might see other clubs as better options, but I think we've also just got to acknowledge our position in the food chain (especially right now with the mess at senior management level).

If we're honest, every manager in world football worth his salt is probably going to favour the likes of Real Madrid or even Chelsea over us at present - even Slot would likely prefer them if he had the option. He just doesn't have the option because he's not proven enough for those clubs yet. I don't see why we'd actively avoid going for top managers (assuming the fit the other criteria re playing style, man management etc) just because they're also good enough to probably have offers form elsewhere. Seems like cutting off our nose to spite our face.

If Nagelsmann joins the club on a long-term contract, and the club are all unified in believing he's the best choice, then that's keen enough for me.
 
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Stoof said:
Maybe I’m just feeling a bit battered by football recently but I feel that JN would feel like he’s doing us a favour. And, tbh, I’m kinda sick of those sort of managers!
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Yea completely hear ya on that mate, he’s a huge huge name and managerial talent, if we did get him I’d really like him to come out with a really strong genuine statement about why he chose us, why we chose him and how he sees himself hopefully building long term success with us.

I don’t think he’d come across quite like conte did in terms of ‘doing us a favour’ and he’s much warmer and more likeable but at the same time perhaps a slightly lesser name like a slot etc would suit us better, would feel more cosy in a way and would feel like the manager genuinely 💯 wants to manage us and is very excited by the opportunity rather than just taking the job for the money and/or because it’s the best available job at the time until a better opportunity arises.

Kompany would be similar in that the media would constantly mention man.city, now if he did really well with us and stayed with us for a decent chunk of time and signed a long term contract extension then those types of rumours and that narrative would start to die down, same for Naglesman.

Completely hear you though that a clean fresh start with a manager who genuinely wants to manage us would be great.
 
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Hotspur88 said:
Completely appreciate and accept everyone's opinions re Poch. I love the man, gave me my best Spurs years, but he isn't coming back. I don't take the continuous talk personally as if I'm being ignored, I just want to save people the disappointment. From my end, he's never been part of the discussions. I have many criticisms of the club, but it does at least seem they're trying to find the right kind of manager this time around. If it was someone outside of Nagelsmann or Slot I would personally be very surprised. I've said for a good while now that I feel it would be one of these two but obviously things can and do change. For example it looks as though I was wrong re Poch to Madrid. That was a very likely possibility a few weeks back and Ancelotti was on his way out but it looks like that may have changed hence the Chelsea rumours. If he goes there, best of luck to him, just don't want them to completely ruin him because I've met him a couple of times and he's a bloody lovely guy. Don't blame him one bit if he does go there, what do we want him to do, stay out of management forever?! Slot is the one for me, he's desperate for us and to me that's pivotal. Nagelsmann is of course a very attractive proposition and I would be very happy, but for me Slot is who I want. He also has the right kind of personality a fan base could get behind.
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Love this mate and completely agree. We really appreciate the update. 🤞 🇳🇱 ⚽️ 🎰
 
mil1lion

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We're a better fit for Nagelsmann than Chelsea. This is the ideal club for him, he has some quality to work with but plenty of young talent to develop too. He essentially has a blank canvas to work with and a team that's all out of sorts. There's not so much expectation at this moment from us as there is at Chelsea. His love for working with a younger squad fits nicely with our transfer policy over the years. His attacking brand of football will unite the fans. It just fits.
 
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I think we are in a great situation if it truly ends up being Nagelsmann or Slot.

But what I really hope is whoever we end up with gets a 4 year deal with a large buy out if sacked within 24 months to prevent Levy from getting an itchy trigger finger.

Next manager needs more than 2 years to sort this out
 
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Stoof said:
Maybe I’m just feeling a bit battered by football recently but I feel that JN would feel like he’s doing us a favour. And, tbh, I’m kinda sick of those sort of managers!
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This is the main reason i've changed my choice to Slot. I get the feeling that JN would be on the shortlist should any big job come up. As we've seen in the past this can ruin player mentality and application if they think the coach isn't committed.
 
Johnny J

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The notion that we'd turn our nose up at Nagelsmann is slightly ridiculous. He's one of the most highly regarded young managers in world football, with a meteoric rise.

Tactically brilliant, engaging and personable, fantastic with young players, driven. Some of the comments about him being "weird" are silly. Just watch the guy talk about football and tactics and tell me you aren't excited about the prospect of him managing us.

He's not Conte or Jose with years and years of winning trophies. But he could likely manage any team, so if he chooses us, it's because he wants to come here. If its true he's turned down Chelsea, that says a lot about him.

Also, there aren't that many bigger jobs than us in Europe. Barca, Real. PSG. City, Liverpool, United, Chelsea. Bayern. Juventus and maybe one or two other Italian clubs.

We're basically top ten based on our profile, financials, infrastructure and location.

And most if not all of those clubs demand immediate success. He's just been burned by Bayern after winning the league and losing only three games this season.

There was a piece a while ago that said his career plan was to go to a club like Spurs - a level below the mega clubs - as the next stage in his career, until Bayern came calling.

You can imagine him wanting a club with great potential where he can build something. Not many clubs out there with world-class facilities and decent financial backing who aren't going to sack you if you have a bad run.

What matters is whether we and he think he's a good fit for the job.

Slot might also be a good fit and do well. This isn't a binary thing.

Whomever we get, if they do brilliantly, they'll be a target for bigger clubs. Whether it's Slot or Naggelsman. But we're also much better equipped to hold onto players and managers we want to keep than a club lower down the food chain.
 
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mil1lion said:
We're a better fit for Nagelsmann than Chelsea. This is the ideal club for him, he has some quality to work with but plenty of young talent to develop too. He essentially has a blank canvas to work with and a team that's all out of sorts. There's not so much expectation at this moment from us as there is at Chelsea. His love for working with a younger squad fits nicely with our transfer policy over the years. His attacking brand of football will unite the fans. It just fits.
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Far too sensible a pitch for us to choose him though! 😂

I’m not adverse to Slot, I just think we’d be daft not to choose Nagelsmann if he wants to come to us.
 
dk-yid

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Hotspur88 said:
I'll say it again, I said months back he wasn't coming back. Literally could have saved this thread pages and pages of pointless posts because he isn't coming back. But every page we read the same messages. I don't know why we don't just focus on the managers who are actually leading the race.
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That's not the SC way mate.

I really can't decide which of Slot and Nagelsmann I'd prefer. I like what I am hearing and reading about Slot but didn't know him befoee je was linked. I obviously know about Nagelsmann who I have wanted for a long time, but then these stories come out about his character which concerns me - though it might all be bollocks. Only thing I know is I would be happy with the type of manager profile I would prefer with a clear and progressive philosophy.
 
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