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JamieSpursCommunityUser

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All of this formation stuff, especially related to full back/wing back is such bullshit. The positions - full back or wing back - are not that different and you have to be able to defend and attack in both. Its fucking ridiculous that dogshit defending like not looking over your shoulder at the back post is somehow excusable for a "wing back". While not being able to cross your legs is somehow totally ok if your a "full back".

We need a manager that knows how he wants his team to play and a good sense that he can galvanise the team to buy in and play that way to a high level. Not someone who can get the most out of Porro or any other player because he's recently in the door.

It is ridiculous. Which is why nobody said it. This is straw man hyperbole.

Both roles you need to defend and attack. The idea is to use a player strengths and minimise their weaknesses. At every level, in every system, and every position.

Inter won Scudetto playing Peresic as a LWB, and Chelsea the PL playing Victor Moses as a RWB.

Both performed their defensive duties, but their duties were different and suited their skill sets.

Which is why neither could play LB and RB competently.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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Personally I think there should currently be no manager on our list.

We should be doing everything in our power to bring in the best DOF we possibly can, and then leave him to create a list and decide.

Unfortunately I think this reeks of Levy seeing this as his last chance to be able to run the show before getting a new DOF. So he’s running around having all these meetings with managers because he gets off on being so involved in the football business.

I’m scared that that means we’re going to end up with whoever can talk the biggest game to Levy, and not the actual best manager. David Brent incoming.
 

Ginola+Tonic

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Yeah I don’t quite get the angst with some fans just yet, it’s mostly regurgitated news and nothing groundbreaking.
I get we’re all scarred by the Nuno appointment but this really doesn’t look or feel the same.

If we’re at the end of June without knowing then I’d worry, otherwise you’re just going to get wound up everyday by repeated articles.
 

Trix

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I was truly curious as for me there is no standout appointment illustrating what a hard decision it is.
You seem to be criticising them for not seemingly reaching this point yet, people will yell Poch or Nagelsmann but I don't think either of them are slamdunk appointments for various reasons.

Let us not forget that our so called football expert came up with Gattusso and then Nuno when he was tasked with the job.
Regardless of whether we see a standout or not it's been 4 months in the making. All last week I was hearing down to two. Then this morning there are reservations and not willing to meet certain terms etc etc and we are back to chucking names around the boardroom again. Post Jose was an utter mess legitimately an absolute shitshow. Managers turning us down, us turning our noses up at managers who we then went back to speak to weeks later, then came the Gattusso, Fonseca, Nuno catastrophe.

Now you can blame Fabio all you like but only Gattusso is on him. The mess that preceded that was all Levy and the board, and fuck me was it a mess to sort out. Fabio is gone now and we are looking we are going round the track again only this time it's at a much slower pace.

The exact words from my man this morning were "Nagelsmann was doable. He was keen, but Levy was unsure about what was required in the deal and didn't want to commit".
 

Trix

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Personally I think there should currently be no manager on our list.

We should be doing everything in our power to bring in the best DOF we possibly can, and then leave him to create a list and decide.


Unfortunately I think this reeks of Levy seeing this as his last chance to be able to run the show before getting a new DOF. So he’s running around having all these meetings with managers because he gets off on being so involved in the football business.

I’m scared that that means we’re going to end up with whoever can talk the biggest game to Levy, and not the actual best manager. David Brent incoming.
I'd fully accept that to be fair.
 

djhotspur

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Regardless of whether we see a standout or not it's been 4 months in the making. All last week I was hearing down to two. Then this morning there are reservations and not willing to meet certain terms etc etc and we are back to chucking names around the boardroom again. Post Jose was an utter mess legitimately an absolute shitshow. Managers turning us down, us turning our noses up at managers who we then went back to speak to weeks later, then came the Gattusso, Fonseca, Nuno catastrophe.

Now you can blame Fabio all you like but only Gattusso is on him. The mess that preceded that was all Levy and the board, and fuck me was it a mess to sort out. Fabio is gone now and we are looking we are going round the track again only this time it's at a much slower pace.

The exact words from my man this morning were "Nagelsmann was doable. He was keen, but Levy was unsure about what was required in the deal and didn't want to commit".
This club man. Thanks for you insight as always trix.
 

stonebrow

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It’s pointless being hopeful and thinking he has to get it right this time…Levy answers to no one (Lewis doesn’t care) therefore has unlimited dice to throw…never going to be the so-called last one!
 

mattspur1986

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is anyone surprised? Lads……It’s Levy!!

we know Levy has no coherent football strategy. Does anyone think that will have changed in the last 2 months.
most likely will be someone “different” to Conte. When he fails it will be someone different again.

these patterns have been plain to see for many years. We might get lucky, as with Poch sometimes when you throw darts blindfolded you do hit a bullseye…the most important changes needed to help the team are what happens in the boardroom this summer

i just cant fathom how he’s still being allowed to make these decisions!

it really does show that they’re really
Not concerned with what happens on the pitch, as long as we’re making money!
We’re no longer a football club, we’re just a multipurpose stadium with a team that plays there.

more concerned with getting concerts etc booked.

and yet, he still has the support of some
Of our fan base! Blows my mind!
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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At times, it feels like we spend more time looking for a new manager, than we spend actually employing a new manager.

And, given the speed with which we burn through new managers, we ought to spend more time understanding why that is, and less time trying to find the "perfect" fit (which clearly does not exist).
 

Trix

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Oh and just to top it off I wouldn't rule Mason out as full time boss. I can't see another top manager wanting to have to reintegrate the cast off's and the need to sell before we buy bullshit. Also all those that have been shouting about how much we've spent over the last few years including the likes of Kulu and Porro, don't be surprised now if all those that we've signed but not yet completed on, are taken out of any upcoming budget.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Let us hope it doesn't all go tits....................surely Daniel COYS knows how that'll play with the fans, I mean it's all fucking bad now but he fucks this up and it'll be carnage on an epic scale.
 

Trix

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At times, it feels like we spend more time looking for a new manager, than we spend actually employing a new manager.

And, given the speed with which we burn through new managers, we ought to spend more time understanding why that is, and less time trying to find the "perfect" fit (which clearly does not exist).
There was a stat I posted a few weeks ago where since Enic has taken over 9-10% of our games have been overseen by interim coaches.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Also all those that have been shouting about how much we've spent over the last few years including the likes of Kulu and Porro, don't be surprised now if all those that we've signed but not yet completed on, are taken out of any upcoming budget.
I've tried to tell people this - only to be met with derision.

Porro and Kulusevski are not yet on the books, and their costs will be added to the transfer budget this summer - before we add a single new player.
 

hero

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Levy doesn't want to commit)) ok. I am already fed up with the next season. The battle to be the 7th.
 

KirstyG

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Oh and just to top it off I wouldn't rule Mason out as full time boss. I can't see another top manager wanting to have to reintegrate the cast off's and the need to sell before we buy bullshit. Also all those that have been shouting about how much we've spent over the last few years including the likes of Kulu and Porro, don't be surprised now if all those that we've signed but not yet completed on, are taken out of any upcoming budget.
Levy just can't help himself. Every glimmer of light is expunged by Levy and the board's dithering.
 

hero

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I've tried to tell people this - only to be met with derision.

Porro and Kulusevski are not yet on the books, and their costs will be added to the transfer budget this summer - before we add a single new player.
I am not picking up on it how people don't understand it. Two half-decent CBs and a GK? Dream on.
 
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