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Nate the great is available...I’ve considered it. But I’m staying with Richmond United.
Nate the great is available...I’ve considered it. But I’m staying with Richmond United.
No I don't suffer from delusion, thank you very much. Brighton will sell their big assets this window and we can offer more money, in saying that yes I believe any manager is nuts taking our job as long as levy is at the helm.You're deluded if you think DeZerbi would even pick up the phone.
Brighton are ahead of us in most ways at the moment, he's got them into Europe for the first time ever and will certainly want to guide them through it.
Good points mate although its the style of play that is so key here to all of your points.I don’t think it matters now. Amorim may well be a fine coach, but the PR damage is already done with the fan base. He’ll be seen as third/fourth choice, and as someone wedded to three at the back, which for a lot of people implies a pragmatic approach.
First choices rarely work out for us anyway. Jol wasn’t first choice, neither was Poch, Redknapp was an appointment out of desperation.
I remember being gutted we weren’t getting LVG in the Poch summer, and similarly disappointed we didn’t get De Boer. So it may not be the end of the world that we are down to the third/fourth choice.
Fucking feels like it though, and if we got Amorim he’s really gonna need to hit the ground running, cause things are toxic in the fan base right now.
Yeah, all be avoidable if the club had just had a plan, stuck to it and then not felt the need to do bullshit PR moves to try control the narrative.I don’t think it matters now. Amorim may well be a fine coach, but the PR damage is already done with the fan base. He’ll be seen as third/fourth choice, and as someone wedded to three at the back, which for a lot of people implies a pragmatic approach.
First choices rarely work out for us anyway. Jol wasn’t first choice, neither was Poch, Redknapp was an appointment out of desperation.
I remember being gutted we weren’t getting LVG in the Poch summer, and similarly disappointed we didn’t get De Boer. So it may not be the end of the world that we are down to the third/fourth choice.
Fucking feels like it though, and if we got Amorim he’s really gonna need to hit the ground running, cause things are toxic in the fan base right now.
I really hope many people come to the same conclusion.Been on the fence about renewing my ST, waiting until the last day to decide whether it's worth it anymore.
Well, decision made.
He wouldn’t be anywhere near the top five on my list at the start of this process.Good points mate although its the style of play that is so key here to all of your points.
Jol was a likeable character, he got the Spurs DNA and built us up towards europe with a young british core and good football.
Redknapp got us back to basics and in the end playing some of the best football in the last 30 years aside from Pochball.
LVG plays boring football and would've been a disaster, Poch was a breath of fresh air.
JN, Slot, Poch, De Zerbi, Gallardo, Big Ange etc etc would all get the fans excited, Amorim is not as defensive as Conte but the football would be too similar to what we've been witnessing and I don't think he'll get much patience or support from the fans as a result. I don't think he'd be a terrible option maybe a 6/10 choice and see how it goes and we might be pleasantly surprised but given the 6 names I've mentioned Amorim for example would be very underwhelming.
He'd be a very intriguing option and agree with your points, his style of play is certainly not 'the same' as Conte's, it is a bit more dynamic and there is more pressing and passing moves but his teams don't keep much possession, they play with the same 3-4-3 formation we are tired of and I fear that his Sporting side only looked half decent mostly because nearly all of their players are good passers and dribblers of the ball and fairly technical players whereas we have a squad full of cloggers right now.I think that's fair but some on here are making out like he is another Nuno or would be the worst case for us.
He's not all out attack but his team can certainly heap on pressure and he is a very adaptable coach.
People were very happy with Conte's football when it was getting results and top 4.
The issue with Conte was that he is so wedded to his system he doesn't make tweaks so it eventually folds.
Amorim always makes little tweaks so can go from defensive to heavy attack quickly.
Well the Newcastle owners don't really get involved like Levy does. To be fair we've signed good players too but we just don't align the signings with the manager. We have no clear strategy, even under Paratici we sign players for one manager and then get a manager who plays a different way. It's most frustrating because despite all the anger about this it can be turned around. Just get a DOF with a clear plan and let him pick the manager to fit. Build a profile of other managers who also fit so down the line if we need a new one we're already one step ahead. My point really is it can be fixed and we can start heading in the right direction pretty quick as we've seen other clubs do.They have competent leadership/recruitment and have backed the manager with quality signings.
The execs of our club are in the football business. I have no idea why have they never considered the worse case scenarios of add ons, increments, shifting the goalposts etc... When all media and journalists are already reporting Slot to us almost like a done deal, they have to fucking make it happen. Levy, the chairman of the club, has to make it happen, not making us look like fools in every single fucking deals.I'd like to think that the Board felt that a £6m to £15m rise in comp felt like Fey were taking the pi$$.
But that would be giving too much credit, for them having an actual plan and parameters around how much they really wanted Slot vs others.
Regardless, finding this crap out on day 60 is just continued incompetence & negligence.
So Tired.
What on earth do Journo's and people of other clubs ever have to talk about? We seem to have 3 dramas a week.
Because ultimately it's up to Levy.. No way Levy sanctions a Kane sale while this shit show is playing out and fans not happy.... Kane might not want to stay, but we've seen how that played out last time.... Kane will bide his time and walk away on a free with his head held high.Kane is not going to stay anyway how can Levy not see this!
The execs of our club are in the football business. I have no idea why have they never considered the worse case scenarios of add ons, increments, shifting the goalposts etc... When all media and journalists are already reporting Slot to us almost like a done deal, they have to fucking make it happen. Levy, the chairman of the club, has to make it happen, not making us look like fools in every single fucking deals.
It’s so hard to want to push and perform for this club - players, staffs and managers alike. So hard.Because ultimately it's up to Levy.. No way Levy sanction a Kane sale while this shit show is playing out and fans not happy.... Kane might not want to stay, but we've seen how that played out last time.... Kane will bide his time and walk away on a free with his head held high.
Stupid is his speciality.Best Levy is desperate Levy - he has trashed the club’s brand and value over the last 4 years that he took 20 years to build - he knows that he cannot get the appointment wrong ( a la a powerless managerial appointment like Nuno) - he will go back crawling to nagelsmann - he would be stupid not to
Which is why while it is absurd, I won’t be surprised he is trolling us for chanting his name in protests. Seriously how many mistakes he needs to make to learn? Unless he doesn’t wish to learn of course.It is ridiculous isn't it. I'd understand these kind of hard-headed business decisions if there was no outside influence. We all know there are pressures from senior people internally, but when the media and thousands of fans are aware of broadly speaking what is happening, this surely influences you to just get the fucking deal done.
It's all the more baffling because levy does know how pissed off everyone is, and how much we need to get this sorted.
who we will have to sack again in 18 months because visions are not aligned. It is simply pointless going for naglesmannBest Levy is desperate Levy - he has trashed the club’s brand and value over the last 4 years that he took 20 years to build - he knows that he cannot get the appointment wrong ( a la a powerless managerial appointment like Nuno) - he will go back crawling to nagelsmann - he would be stupid not to
Well the Newcastle owners don't really get involved like Levy does. To be fair we've signed good players too but we just don't align the signings with the manager. We have no clear strategy, even under Paratici we sign players for one manager and then get a manager who plays a different way. It's most frustrating because despite all the anger about this it can be turned around. Just get a DOF with a clear plan and let him pick the manager to fit. Build a profile of other managers who also fit so down the line if we need a new one we're already one step ahead. My point really is it can be fixed and we can start heading in the right direction pretty quick as we've seen other clubs do.