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So the Ange thing is essentially a protest because Levy is still here?Yes, if only #LevyOut had been trending for weeks or something
So the Ange thing is essentially a protest because Levy is still here?Yes, if only #LevyOut had been trending for weeks or something
Think you are missing the point that is annoying some fans- we would not have been entertaining Ange before though having fucked up negotiations with preferable targets we are left where we are.Worth mentioning fans sent hate mail to Michael Keaton when he was announced as Batman and Heath Ledger when he was announced as the Joker. The same fans who derided Danny Rose on Twitter now refer to him as the best left back they’ve seen. I wanted us to sign Paulinho, Soldado and Ndombele; I didn’t want us to appoint Poch or buy Bentancur.
Fans, on the whole, don’t know what they want. They think they do, but it’s pretty easy to create a narrative of sense when no one is keeping score of the alternative.
I don’t disagree with that really but to be brutally honest, I would actually take finishing 7th next season while playing some exciting football and looking like we are moving forward with a more balanced squad. Small time thinking? Perhaps, but I see this as the most important managerial decision in the clubs recent history and that’s not being over emotional about it. The thing is, I have totally lost faith that Levy can get it right or anything else for that matter, and that makes me fear for a finish lower than 7th next season. Getting this wrong is a very scary thought.This isnt aimed at you personally but I will call it out as its spouted a lot on here.
It's rubbish. Fans as a whole will not accept 7th or 8th and neither will the board.
If this happens again the manager will definitely be sacked, and nearly every decent first team player like Kulu, Bentancur, Son, Romero will be demanding to leave next summer.
It's absolute small time. I'm convinced some odd people want us to go back to the late 90s and just be happy to be in the league if we had a couple of flair players in the team and lost games 5-3.
Time to act like a big club FFS.
Are we forgetting that Bayern literally just lost:Totally irrelevant because Bayern are a top club who didn't need major surgery like us. He would need to spend big to compete for titles with us which I have no doubt he would want. Also we are still low on net spend and without any European football I doubt we spend that much this summer. Don't forget Conte didn't spend much in previous jobs either but it's a totally different situation to come to Spurs. If you're a top manager like Nagelsmann going from Bayern to Spurs you're going to need to spend a lot like Conte did just to try and build us to that type of level. Otherwise there's no chance getting a manager like him. They haven't needed to spend big because they've managed top clubs. Spurs are a long way from that.
So what you’re saying is, the Scottish league is pretty much equivalent to the Ukrainian league, where the hottest shit in management - who half of you would nut yourselves over appointing - was winning the league a year ago?Exactly this!
People are willing to accept mediocrity and not thinking about the potential fallout.
There are at least 5 managers in the Premier League that would be a better choice to go after than hiring someone like Agne just because they have won the Scottish prem, which as others have pointed out sits 9th in the Uefa rankings and currently 40th in the ratings
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Right next to league one, the Championship sits 18th
These are team form ratings, showing the lack of quality in the Scottish Prem. Its ridiculous why we’re even considering it.
Who just won the Bulgarian league?
What are they up to?
We thought conte was his last throw of the dice.Given what has unfolded over the last few seasons any other CEO of any properly functioning organisation would have been given a bin liner and told to F off by now.
Levy does idiotic things, but I don’t think he’s an idiot so even he must realise that he must get this one right or the game is up both for him personally at Spurs, and for the club itself in the short to medium term.
We don’t need a mediocre management team, but someone who has a plan and will give the club a snowdome like shake.
Still clinging to the hope that he is going to pull a rabbit out of the hat and redeem himself, but not holding my breath.
Yeah, so does every fan. No fan of Spurs wants us not to do well. Issue is if it was that simple Conte or Mourinho would’ve done it.Think you are missing the point that is annoying some fans- we would not have been entertaining Ange before though having fucked up negotiations with preferable targets we are left where we are.
Your post lacks balance as for every fan that wanted Soldado there would have been one that didn't,etc....
As a fan I want a fucking trophy and am in no doubt about that so fuck the patronising- 'fans don't know what they want'!
What were you expecting of them in that game? The current champions with a master tactician manager and endless resources at his disposable enentually picked off a team from the Scottish League. The bigger positive for me was that 1st half performance and the others in the CL.I think if Ange’s Celtic team hadn’t absolutely bombed in the champions league people might be willing to consider him a bit more because Celtic do play good football, he is loved by the fans, it’s all good stuff, but there are levels to this game, it’s as simple as that. I watched the Celtic vs Madrid game and Celtic came out fast, used the momentum of the crowd and had the better of the first half but second half Madrid made some tactical changes and Celtic barely had a sniff of goal second half (clear cut chances anyway) and Madrid picked them off. For me the only audition Ange can have that holds any weight is his performance in the CL and they failed, pretty miserably. I’ve tried to take the points of the Ange lovers on board but I genuinely cannot get past the fact the SPL is a horrific standard, it’s no exaggeration that 80% of the teams in it would struggle to avoid relegation in league 1, it’s shocking. We just can’t be appointing a manager that’s only proven good performance in that league, it’s really as simple as that, it’s just not good enough.
Enrique in comparison has been appointed as head coach in two of the most prestigious positions in football for a reason, he’s clearly a fucking good coach that’s proven at a far higher level. You can try your hardest but you’re not living in the reality of there being levels to this game if you believe Ange has done anything yet to be put anywhere near Enrique’s level. When there are managers like Enrique and Nagelsmann that both play good football and have the required experience available taking gambles on options like Ange is nothing short of negligent, sorry that’s just how I feel about it
oh I am not so sure having read sone of the stuff for the last few weeks some seem to wallow in the miseryYeah, so does every fan. No fan of Spurs wants us not to do well. Issue is if it was that simple Conte or Mourinho would’ve done it.
Yeah, imagine fans of the 9th most valuable club in the world thinking our board should be delivering better than a bloke from Celtic.
A bloke they’re only enrtertaining because they’ve pissed off, alienated, failed to approach or forgotten to approach a dozen better candidates.
Can’t for the life of me imagine why our absurdly tepid fan base might now be getting slightly irate.
Use that energy towards Levy then. Not Ange's fault..
Slightly irate? They're getting pissed at any little thing. It's embarrassing. It's pathetic.
Exactly this.
I have nothing against Ange and he seems like a top bloke, but when so many top quality coaches are available and we seem to be working our way down the list on a daily basis, it is hugely frustrating.
What makes it even worse is that Nagelsmann was gettable (as was Slot) but we just aren’t prepared to surrender control to the DOF / Manager meaning we’re hardly an appealing proposition (particularly when managers are fully aware of what’s him on before)
Winner winner winner winner ! Spot onYeah, imagine fans of the 9th most valuable club in the world thinking our board should be delivering better than a bloke from Celtic.
A bloke they’re only enrtertaining because they’ve pissed off, alienated, failed to approach or forgotten to approach a dozen better candidates.
Can’t for the life of me imagine why our absurdly tepid fan base might now be getting slightly irate.
I don’t really care for De Zerbi but I’d suggest that even that league is more competitive than the Scottish prem.So what you’re saying is, the Scottish league is pretty much equivalent to the Ukrainian league, where the hottest shit in management - who half of you would nut yourselves over appointing - was winning the league a year ago?
True, but he’s still there like the turd that won’t flush.We thought conte was his last throw of the dice.