Match Threads Spurs vs Liverpool - Match Day 7 - 30th Sept KO 5:30pm
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- Sep 30, 2023
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- 5:30pm
easley91
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It may have been my poor eyes but I just couldn't see a definitive touch at the time. The major thing was Jota knowing he was on a yellow making a tackle knowing full well he wasn't going to get the ball. If he was our player I would have been fuming with him when we're already down to ten as it is.
I think there's a difference between suspect and what this thing is so apologies for my pedantry (if that's what it is).
This wasn't a 'suspect' decision it was an epic mistake, so clear that the three blind mice were pictured faces aghast with shock. But your right, the idea is farcical and it won't happen for the reasons pretty much everyone has already mentioned.
That said, as big as the mistake was, others this season (Wolves not getting a penalty against City for example) were also clear mistakes, it's those that need eradicating. If there are 'suspect' decisions at all then VAR has failed and is failing (and we all know it is), we may as well go back to 'proper' football instead of this false insurance against referee mistakes which, lets face it, was only introduced after managers constantly (for years) cried themselves silly complaining about human error. If ever 'be careful what you wish for' had any business being uttered on here, it's over that.
The whole thing is lurching from one ridiculous incident to another, getting worse and bigger like a snowball rolling down a hill and any governing body with a pair of balls would do away with it and just leave the easy stuff, maybe goal line technology in place, there's too much ambiguity in interpretation, it's trying to do too much, rule changes are reactionary, the quality of thought that's gone into it has been suspect from the start. It's almost as if it were done by SC'ers
You’re right about the suspect versus blatant.
But it won’t be too long before there’s something like a blatant onside goal wrongly disallowed for offside but, for example, a suspect foul in the build up to the goal.
Maybe there’s a blatant onside goal disallowed for offside but another player standing in an offside position and people don’t agree whether he’s influencing play or not.
It would open a massive can of worms because you just know people won’t stop at the obvious and blatant errors. I mean I think that was the original idea of var - to root out the blatant errors- but it’s become so much more than that.
The officials should be doing better with some of these decisions but they’re also human, just like the players. Mistakes happen in the heat of the moment.
The main issue these days is everything is scrutinised on camera in slow mo from a million different angles.
neogenisis
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Jota's first yellow was cumulative, it wasnt specifically for that challenge. Its very fair to say he should have had a yellow before that anyway.
Toast
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Yes, straight out of old Red Nose's playbook.
neogenisis
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Its weird, I didnt like Fergie at all but I did respect him and what his Club brought to Football. I have 0 respect for Gurnie McGurnason and his Squad of vicitmised bellends.
However I think that part of their whole motivation and Klopp uses it - making out that everyone including the officials are against them so they have to fight again this corruption, until in one game one decision goes against them and they can't handle it. Don't hear bout the 1000 other decisions in Thier favour.
chas vs dave
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If Matip had sorted his feet out, then this wouldn't have been as much of an issue...
worcestersauce
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Don't let them get to you, rise above them, puff out your chest and say "Suck it up" and smile.
mil1lion
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They're 2 of the worst losers in football. They can't just accept thongs didn't go their way. It has to be a massive agenda afterwards.
cjbyid
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Fair.
I find I can still have a okay-ish chat with some Arsenal fans regarding football.
Liverpool fans on the other hand unless it's about them they don't care/world is against them etc. It goes for all of them.
Totting up gave him his first yellow. He did little else after he came on other than rushing around fouling Spurs players. Red was thoroughly deserved.
Agree. If Bissoumas leg had been broken - which was a probable outcome then would the narrative still have been about trying to scoop the ball / lack of intent? Clearly not
degoose
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So in the perfect world and the goal was given and was onside officially, do people still think that Liverpool would have won the game because i don't. They were a player down and got a quick goal on the break but it is being treated like it was a 90th minute game deciding winner when it wasn't.
I'm still loving it though, it is hilarious how much conspiracy theory crap comes out when it is Liverpool. Always the victims aren't they.
I'm still loving it though, it is hilarious how much conspiracy theory crap comes out when it is Liverpool. Always the victims aren't they.
degoose
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if his leg was broken it would have been the same thing as to what happened to Son, weirdly with that nobody questioned it except for spurs and it was rescinded (we still suffered though as we had a player sent off) and i can't see this one being rescinded so sounds like it was the correct decision.
Trees
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I have a dislike for Liverpool's entitlement which for me is on a level with Arsenal. Yes they were robbed on Saturday, but what about our decisions and luck over the last 4 years against them ?
What goes around comes around. It evens itself up in the end. We will have a crappy decision against which is how it goes.
My hunch is that Liverpool and us, could become a bit of a grudge match in a similar vein to Liverpool Chelsea in the 2000s. I for one, would love it lol
What goes around comes around. It evens itself up in the end. We will have a crappy decision against which is how it goes.
My hunch is that Liverpool and us, could become a bit of a grudge match in a similar vein to Liverpool Chelsea in the 2000s. I for one, would love it lol
worcestersauce
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I still say we'd have won the game whatever decisions were made.
