Match Threads Spurs vs Wolves - Match Thread

Thewobbler · Mar 1, 2020

yusrisafri said:
Tanganga was a joke today

He didnt play well but both cb's are young and need patience.

shelfmonkey · Mar 1, 2020

DJS said:
Context-wise that’s a very good Wolves team with (all?) of their regulars available?

We’re missing our two best players and even before that have massive holes in squad that are not Jose’s fault.

So yeah maybe point fingers the chairman a little as he has overseen this squad for last few seasons (and a little annoyance at Poch for his involvement in leaving us in a shit state) but Jose needs a summer before we can start slating him.

Tanganga also has been doing well so he made the call to drop Toby who has been shaky, so he’s trying to find solutions and at least seems aware of where we are lacking rather than stubbornly ignoring them.

Firstly, Poch got the sack, he didn't 'leave' us!

Secondly, when he knew which players needed to be moved on and Levy basically priced them out of any interest or refused to sell, there's not much blame you can lay on Poch there!

Thirdly, Poch knew which players he wanted in and, once again, up steps Levy and denies him the opportunity to bring them in!

Finally, we end up with fucking Maureen!!

Hazelton · Mar 1, 2020

King of Otters said:
Today was one of those games that showed how limited Winks is as a player. I like him a lot as a Spurs lad, but give him time on the ball in the final third and he shits himself.

Lucas was also a colossal waste of space. All the strength of a ruptured perineum.

I really like the lad but at best he's a mid-table midfielder for me, no different to Mason, Livermore, Carroll, Bentaleb etc. We think they're better than they are because we love an academy player and he loves the club. Good squad option but cannot be starting at a club that wants to push on and win things.

Spur4life · Mar 1, 2020

We got Burnley next week there 2 points behind us lol look what we have become lol fuck Levy and co

Saoirse · Mar 1, 2020

bigpalacios said:
He also didnt want to be here in the end and this is why we got beat 7 - 2 at home and a lot of other shite results.

I think that had more to do with 18 months of no transfers, no money to give players the contracts they needed, etc. There is no miracle fix to our position. But we've tried to buy one rather than trust the guy who'd already achieved so much with us. And unsurprisingly it isn't working.

glacierSpurs · Mar 1, 2020

Rocksuperstar said:
Listened to the match on the wireless and, imo, it sounds like this one is on Jose.

The commentators even mentioned once or twice how hard it was to work out what formation we were playing and for the most part it sounded like players individually trying hard but nothing coming together as a team. If either is the case then the other is likely.

Was bringing Parrot on for the last couple of minutes Jose being "you wanted him, fine, here he is" like a stroppy kid, or was he trying to leave it late enough that he could run out and not take any blame for the bad result?

Confused and frustrated by that result.

Better to watch and gauge on your own. Listening to commentary is a biased perspective opinionated by whoever love/hate us/Mourinho.

The formation was confusing TBH. I don't know how close is Lucas following Mourinho instructions. He is always coming so deep on collect the ball. Is he a fucking striker deployed or not I don't understand. If he is, he should just stay up and press, instead of congesting the midfield further. Dele and him are totally not at the wavelength together, unlike the synchronisation we saw from Dele+Eriksen/Son. Is not like they are exchanging their roles well. They always couldn't find each other.........

Garbob · Mar 1, 2020

Started off really well, passing it around well which we haven’t done in a while, created some good forward movement but unfortunately just couldn’t keep it up.

Lighty64 · Mar 1, 2020

shelfboy68 said:
But we was shit with the old manager last year so nothing much has changed

the only time due to the stadium being built was this summer getting any backing and I understand why we couldN'T spend silly during that time compared to others, and none of them had long enough run due to injuries. we also had 3-4 players not giving 75% for Poch so how did you expect us to do anything. now we get someone that USED to be a good manager and he still can't get them playing. why not start with Toby in defence, why not try Parrott he can't do any worse than Dele

mrlilywhite · Mar 1, 2020

Saoirse said:
We were in a tough circumstance. Hadn't had money to invest with the stadium circumstances, needed a refresh, things had certainly dropped off. But Poch was the man who took us from very similar circumstances to where we were. I strongly believe that he'd have got us back to that, not this season, but we'd have got there and gone even further. When you look at the job Jose did at United, I just can't see how he makes any sense.

That's your opinion - mine is that Poch finally got caught out with his system & he didn't have a credible system as an alternative. Poch left the team in tatters from a fitness point of view, however, Levy compounded those problems by a significant lack of investment & if anything that was what finally pushed us over the edge. Poch could have rebuilt for sure, but he never learned his lesson of being able to produce a viable plan b - when he tried, he failed. What's is known as a one-trick pony in my books.

Saoirse · Mar 1, 2020

bat-chain said:
I have no great desire to defend Mourinho but he can’t be blamed for most of that. Our defenders and keeper were horrific.

Players let him and themselves down.

Defensive organisation and coaching is literally meant to be his talent. That's meant to be the basis of what he does. It's not how I'd want us to focus and play anyway, but you can't base your whole resume on it and then turn in shite like that.

Hawk_Spur · Mar 1, 2020

Didn't think we played too badly and quite a few in here are being harsh. We could have gone 3-1 up with Dele's header, yet Wolves quickly equalised after that. The rest is history.

We just can't defend. Don't understand how we let Jota run at us for the third goal... have to give away the professional foul.

Ronwol196061 · Mar 1, 2020

Attacked by Trump from the West, Corona from the East and Wolves from the North,,,,,AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!

Graysonti · Mar 1, 2020

Saoirse said:
It wasn't over a year. But you know what, if Jose doesn't win an away game the rest of this season but beats his German opposition in the R16 by four goals, knocks out the favourites and takes us to the UCL final again, I'll take that. The squad needed a refresh. But it sucks so much that when we finally had some kind of money in the summer to invest, Poch only got literally a couple of months to work with it after years of not just dragging some players who weren't the most talented into the Top 4 but getting them playing brilliantly too. He deserved a hell of a lot more time. Given the months Mourinho's had I don't think we'd be doing as badly as we are right now - a mess, toothless, low-energy, passionless.

fuck off about Poch - he was burnt and going through the motions - he was Shit at the end - do you get that mate

Whether Jose was the right thing is another matter

Saoirse · Mar 1, 2020

mrlilywhite said:
That's your opinion - mine is that Poch finally got caught out with his system & he didn't have a credible system as an alternative. Poch left the team in tatters from a fitness point of view, however, Levy compounded those problems by a significant lack of investment & if anything that was what finally pushed us over the edge. Poch could have rebuilt for sure, but he never learned his lesson of being able to produce a viable plan b - when he tried, he failed. What's is known as a one-trick pony in my books.

Maybe so. But I certainly loved his Plan A. You can't even see any kind of plan right now.

cider spurs · Mar 1, 2020

Checks TV guide to see what alternatives to MOTD are available.

daryl hannah · Mar 1, 2020

Starting to think Winks isn't the answer. I've been behind him for a long time, but he's not really one thing or another.

Colonel_Klinck · Mar 1, 2020

I think we played much better today than in the last few games. Sadly we have no front man. Dele tried and on another day could have had 3. Moura isn’t a front man. Tanganga still has lots to learn before he can be trusted at CB. The whole team is in desperate need of freshening up.
Jose did himself no favours with the fans bringing on Parrot for 4 minutes. That’s the shit you do when 3-2 up not 3-2 down ? Amazing we’ve gone from what we had 18 months ago to this?

Bobbins · Mar 1, 2020

philip said:
How many of the players today were even in the CL final team?

Winks & Alli
And Dier and Lucas came on.

The rest either weren't here or didn't play. This has nothing to do with the CL final. We lost cos we gave away goals.

Yeah so I might be talking about something bigger than just today’s result?

Archibald&Crooks · Mar 1, 2020

paulcumpstone said:
We arent even missing that many players.

Lets see........

Kane
Lloris
Son
Lamela
Wanyama
Sissoko

How much better we would be with those in the side is up for debate but lets not pretend it isn't an issue. Any squad would, over the course of a season, hell, half a season, would miss that lot.

Plus two or three three signings who have hardly set the world alight, Eriksen gone, Toby & Jan have declined shockingly. Personally I'd add Toby & Jan to the 'missing' list because their quality has declined so badly.

Ridiculous statement. Bordering on Jackanory type levels.

Such is your hard-on for hating on Mourinho that this rubbish just rolls off the tongue. It's as plain as a 12 inch dong stuck to the Queen's face

yusrisafri · Mar 1, 2020

Thewobbler said:
He didnt play well but both cb's are young and need patience.

Young he may be, and 0atience we must have, but He cost us the game today.

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