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Player Watch Player Watch: Dejan Kulusevski

dontcallme

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I’d be really disappointed if we can’t find a place for him. There’s so much ability, work rate and personality there.

When in the final third with players back, he’s the one I have most belief in to find a way through.

I genuinely think the only thing we need to do is find a way to counter where he isn’t the player receiving it on the halfway line and slowing everything down.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I’d be really disappointed if we can’t find a place for him. There’s so much ability, work rate and personality there.

When in the final third with players back, he’s the one I have most belief in to find a way through.

I genuinely think the only thing we need to do is find a way to counter where he isn’t the player receiving it on the halfway line and slowing everything down.
Pretty certain he will still very much be a part of our squad next season but it'll be as a utility player at n.o8/10 and RW as a squad rotation option.

Lets remember that when Maddison was out at the AFCON CM's were away Kulu played n.o8/10 alongside Gio for a few games and he did really well so he can do a job there for sure and its where he sees himself long term so he'll for sure be part of our squad and plans next year and he's still 'young' so room to improve, however I'm unsure if he'll end up being the level we need in terms of a regular starter for us under Ange.

We shall see.

But as you say, top bloke, top personality, some ability and great work rate and attitude so lets find a way to keep using him even if it looks like his days at RW are becoming more numbered, certainly as a starter at least.
 

DiVaio

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I remember people were debating who was better, him or Saka? and whether we got lucky in missing out on luis Diaz and getting Kulu instead. And for the first 6 months you could easily argue we had the best player of the 3, but since his initial promise he seems to have regressed quite a lot and the other 2 aforementioned players are easily ahead of him.
He didn't regress at all and his underlying stats are pretty much the same in all 3 season with us or even better in terms of his creativity. The only difference is Son was in fantastic finishing form from his passes in 21/22. 8 assists from 3,4 xA then and now just 3 assists from 6,9 xA
 

Mr Pink

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He'll come good again.

Too much quality, and works so hard.

Just low on confidence at present.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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He'll come good again.

Too much quality, and works so hard.

Just low on confidence at present.
When you say ‘come good’ what do you mean exactly.

He does have quality and does work hard and he is low on confidence but regardless of that I don’t really see a position he can make his own in this set-up tbh.

He clearly wants to play centrally but he’s not going to oust Bentancur or Sarr as n.o8 and he won’t oust Maddison at n.o10 and whilst we still have gio this season I think as long as Johnson doesn’t get injured at RW then Kulu will be 15 mins off the bench for the rest of the season tbh.
 

Mr Pink

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When you say ‘come good’ what do you mean exactly.

He does have quality and does work hard and he is low on confidence but regardless of that I don’t really see a position he can make his own in this set-up tbh.

He clearly wants to play centrally but he’s not going to oust Bentancur or Sarr as n.o8 and he won’t oust Maddison at n.o10 and whilst we still have gio this season I think as long as Johnson doesn’t get injured at RW then Kulu will be 15 mins off the bench for the rest of the season tbh.

I mean improve generally with his performances.

He might well be covering 8, 10 and the right side next season.

We'll have more games, and playing nearer his best will give us real strength in depth.

He creates a lot of chances, works his nutts off and has a great attitude.

Id be stunned if Agne sanctions selling him.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I mean improve generally with his performances.

He might well be covering 8, 10 and the right side next season.

We'll have more games, and playing nearer his best will give us real strength in depth.

He creates a lot of chances, works his nutts off and has a great attitude.

Id be stunned if Agne sanctions selling him.
Oh yea 100% he’s not being sold he’ll be a very important squad member next season but I’m intrigued to see if over time he works his way back as a starter or if longer term under Ange Kulu will just be a squad player
 

spursgirls

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He didn't regress at all and his underlying stats are pretty much the same in all 3 season with us or even better in terms of his creativity. The only difference is Son was in fantastic finishing form from his passes in 21/22. 8 assists from 3,4 xA then and now just 3 assists from 6,9 xA
I'd be interested to know how the stats compare for him cutting into the box and shooting with his left foot over the three seasons. My brain tells me he did that a lot more early on and he doesn't do it so much now. It feels to me like he passes the ball to someone else to have a shot more now.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I'd be interested to know how the stats compare for him cutting into the box and shooting with his left foot over the three seasons. My brain tells me he did that a lot more early on and he doesn't do it so much now. It feels to me like he passes the ball to someone else to have a shot more now.
Definitely seemed like under conte it was a lot on him to shoot and try and score whereas Ange’s style is a lot posession heavier so encouraged to do a lot more short passing and pass and move rather than earlier crosses and/or cut in and shoot often from a counter attack, I think he’s a decent player but unless he turns into sort sort of left footed KDB as a n.o 8/10 then I don’t see him being a regular starter for us under Ange in this style, which is fine, Kulu can be a good important squad player for us but I don’t think he’s the type of profile certainly of winger which Ange would usually favour.
 

Mediocrates

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He should be stationed to rival Maddison centrally next season I think. If he is as good as I believe he can be, he’ll start a lot of games.
 

spurs9

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I'd be interested to know how the stats compare for him cutting into the box and shooting with his left foot over the three seasons. My brain tells me he did that a lot more early on and he doesn't do it so much now. It feels to me like he passes the ball to someone else to have a shot more now.
2 Different sources for stats have different results.

According to Sofascore:
In his first 2 seasons, he averaged 1.4 shots per game (same in both seasons, not an average of the 2). He actually averages more, with 1.5 shots per game this season.

According to Fref:
2021/22 - 1.86 shots per game
2022/23 - 1.87 shots per game
2023/24 - 1.73 shots per game

Either way the difference is marginal with max difference of 5 shots over an entire season.
 
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spursgirls

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2 Different sources for stats have different results.

According to Sofascore:
In his first 2 seasons, he averaged 1.4 shots per game (same in both seasons, not an average of the 2). He actually averages more, with 1.5 shots per game this season.

According to Fref:
2021/22 - 1.86 shots per game
2022/23 - 1.87 shots per game
2023/24 - 1.73 shots per game

Either way the difference is marginal with max difference of 5 shots over an entire season.
Thank you for that, much appreciated. Very interesting that it is so similar over the three seasons.
 

Dazzazzad

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Kulu has no median. Either completely poor or completely unplayable for opponent. No middle ground.

If he is going to regress further from here, he goes on to the chopping block in summer
I actually think most of his time here has been between middle ground and one of our best players on the pitch.

Even when off form I still feel he works hard and will create at least one or two key chances in a match.

I agree he's in a bad patch now though and deserves to fight his way back but have no concerns long term. Young player who will get better.
 

Dazzazzad

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When was he unplayable? He played really well when he first arrived and has ridden on that wave ever since. Last season was 5/10 and this season 6/10.
Just to give a more objective measure for context:

Sofascore has him at 7.13 this season (5th best) and 6.83 last season (8th best).
 

whenstevewentup

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I don’t think he suits Anges system as a right winger , Johnson and Werner are the types of players he’s looking for and kulu just doesn’t have that turn of pace. I’d keep him as a squad player but he doesn’t start ahead of Johnson .
 

fishhhandaricecake

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When was he unplayable? He played really well when he first arrived and has ridden on that wave ever since. Last season was 5/10 and this season 6/10. He's a good player and I like him, but the idea that his good form is more a true reflection of him than his less impressive form, simply isn't true. He can't keep being judged on a 4 month period 2 years ago. Since then he's had some good times, but by and large he's been under whelming. Even his biggest fans need to start accepting that now. Last season wasn't a blip. He's just not a winger or wing forward in the Prem. Maybe he can play through the middle as he's certainly got lots of talent. 8 goals and 10 assists in his last 60 games just isn't enough for a club looking to challenge for honours.
spot on.
 

mill

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His role in conte’s 343 or any 343 is very different to what’s asked of him in this system. Even most back 4 systems have over lapping fb’s allowing the rw to cut in and play more central in our system he needs to hold the width more which doesn’t particularly suit him. I’d give him another season though, see whether he can cut it centrally whilst also being an option on the right
 

VoteMe4Prez

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Thought he was superb today. A constant threat and was so good on the ball. If only he could find the goals again. If he had that ability he could be Kane levels of player
 
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