Alessandro Bastoni

[Wick3d]

That guy is a WUM

 

[WorthATry]

I'm not sure there's many worse sources than Konur

 

[carpediem991]

I don't know too much about Kim but I certainly would prefer someone proven in a top league.

Edit: Good the source is sh't

 

[TheWook]

There was information that Inter sold the debt to a 3rd Party, so Chelsea owe them (Inter) nothing.

Even if they get Lukaku on loan there's still a fee to pay for that. I guess it just gets taken off what Chelsea still owe them. I just don't see it being enough to cover what they need though.

 

[mil1lion]

Ideally we get this done this week so he can get over to London from Wolves after Saturday and do the medical. It then allows him to return to Italy and have a break before coming back for pre season.

 

[brasil_spur]

The key line for me is "the club haven't told me anything", so he's obviously waiting for the club to say they've agreed terms with us, and then it's go time.
The rest is usual player waffle

This. 100%

 

[brasil_spur]

Watch Bastoni tonight-just doesn't put a foot wrong. Love to get him. He can even play a great long ball.

His long ball and crossing into the box is one of his best attributes IMO, he almost looks like a wing back at times in the way he progresses up the pitch.

 

[brasil_spur]

If chelsea were to get Martinez they’d 100% want to knock the money off they owe for lukaku and do a deal that way but it would not benefit inter

It wouldn't at all because they don't owe Inter for Lukaku anymore, the owe the 3rd party company that Inter sold that debt to.

 

[Basil Brush]

His long ball and crossing into the box is one of his best attributes IMO, he almost looks like a wing back at times in the way he progresses up the pitch.

I honestly believe him and Gvardiol will be best lcb's in Europe for a long time, and it unfortunate that gvardiol is extremely unlikely for us.

So we need Bastoni.

 

[brasil_spur]

I honestly believe him and Gvardiol will be best lcb's in Europe for a long time, and it unfortunate that gvardiol is extremely unlikely for us.

So we need Bastoni.

Agree, i'd also say Bastoni is the better fit right now for us as we have Conte and Perisic.

 

[jpascavitz]

Paratici deserves a statue if he can get this one over the line, amazing how in a year the backline is completely transformed. Dier and Davies fitting better into a back 3 than 4 shouldn't go unnoticed as well.

With ITK saying we're possibly looking to buy 2 of 4 of our CB targets (if they get done) I really think we may have 6 capable defenders for 3 positions which would be absolutely mad!

Imagine Conte being able to pick from: Bastoni, Dier, Romero, Davies, Sanchez, and a signing of Torres, Kim Min Jae, etc. If they can all gel together then I would never be worried if there were an injury, suspension, or rotating throughout the different comps

 

[Basil Brush]

Have to be careful with signings like this. He'd cost around half our alleged transfer budget so he represents high risk, has no Premier League experience and probably doesn't speak english (correct me if I'm wrong). Defence isn't really something we can afford to get wrong, and I think ours demonstrated that they're already pretty good. It's easy to say Bastoni is an upgrade on Davies right now, but I've seen too many big money flops to be 100% convinced he's a lock-in certainty to deliver for us.

I don't even know how to respond to this...

 

[Ben1]

Have to be careful with signings like this. He'd cost around half our alleged transfer budget so he represents high risk, has no Premier League experience and probably doesn't speak english (correct me if I'm wrong). Defence isn't really something we can afford to get wrong, and I think ours demonstrated that they're already pretty good. It's easy to say Bastoni is an upgrade on Davies right now, but I've seen too many big money flops to be 100% convinced he's a lock-in certainty to deliver for us.

By your theory:

Ben White > Romero.

I'm glad Arsenal's scouting team also came to that conclusion.

 

[TheWook]

This must be a sign it’s getting closer if McDonalds are releasing an Italian inspired Summer Menu ??

 

[brasil_spur]

Have to be careful with signings like this. He'd cost around half our alleged transfer budget so he represents high risk, has no Premier League experience and probably doesn't speak english (correct me if I'm wrong). Defence isn't really something we can afford to get wrong, and I think ours demonstrated that they're already pretty good. It's easy to say Bastoni is an upgrade on Davies right now, but I've seen too many big money flops to be 100% convinced he's a lock-in certainty to deliver for us.

What news sites have you been reading? We've had £150m put into our transfer kitty, that's been widely reported as on top of player sales (CCV, Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Reguillon & Winks alone to bring in £80m+) and on top of some money from CL qualification.

Even putting that aside £50m is only 1/3 of £150m, not half.

We've just signed a new GK and new LWB for zero. If we bring in Eriksen that's another free signing.

This really is one of the worst opinions i've read in this section of the forum recently.

 

[Timberwolf]

Have to be careful with signings like this. He'd cost around half our alleged transfer budget so he represents high risk, has no Premier League experience and probably doesn't speak english (correct me if I'm wrong). Defence isn't really something we can afford to get wrong, and I think ours demonstrated that they're already pretty good. It's easy to say Bastoni is an upgrade on Davies right now, but I've seen too many big money flops to be 100% convinced he's a lock-in certainty to deliver for us.

Thing is in the current market buying an established PL defender is financial suicide most of the time. Look at how much Man United got bent over signing Maguire and how much Arsenal paid for White - the value in the market is absolutely abysmal. Plus, what attainable top left sided CB even is there that we could target? If wanted someone like Fofana, Leicester would probably ask for 70-80m cos that's what Prem teams do these days.

Buying a 23 year old who has played under Conte, is widely considered to be Italy's next great CB, is left footed and suits our system and is actually only available for this price due to Inter's financial woes and would otherwise cost £70-80m...is that really a bad deal?

And it's currently reported as £51m not £60m which is only a third of the money we apparently have to spend pre-sales.

 

[Happyhammy]

I didn't say anyone is better than anyone. I just said spending £60million on a player like Bastoni represents high risk, potentially too high relative to other areas that need improving.

Am I against signing him? No, especially not if Conte wants him. That being said, it would be naive to claim he's a certainty to be an upgrade on what we have.

I believe it is around £51 million as it is in Euros. Same we roughly spent on Romero as we had the loan to buy option.

If Conte has identified him as a top target for his system then it's less of risk IMO. He has managed him before and yes the premier league is different but so far our siginings have hit the ground running.

 

[brasil_spur]

I'd like to know what you're reading. Most sites are quoting £60m and that's an absolute minimum.

I mean, you could ramble on about how bad you think my opinion is. At the same time, I can guess how you and 99% of Spurs fans felt about Ndombele at the time we signed him in 2019...

This fucking site dude. In this fucking thread. Literally go back over the last god knows how many pages, all the discussion, news links etc... are all saying €60m - that's a Euro sign at the front in case you're confused. €60m = £51m.

I can't be bothered to trawl through more than the last page, but literally on the last page, in the last couple of hours, this was posted:

In terms of Ndombele - good lord do we need to do this discussion again?!?!?

This really is very different, for a number of reasons. It's such a weak argument to bring up a player that we payed good money for who flopped. The very easy counter argument to Ndombele is of course Romero, but there's far more nuance to it than just that.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I didn't say anyone is better than anyone. I just said spending £60million on a player like Bastoni represents high risk, potentially too high relative to other areas that need improving.

Am I against signing him? No, especially not if Conte wants him. That being said, it would be naive to claim he's a certainty to be an upgrade on what we have.

I really don't see the problem with this.

Poch wanted Ndombele. And 90% of fans wanted the same. But at 54million, with no experience of playing in the prem, he was a high risk signing. And we all know how that turned out....

There is no guarantee that any foreign signing will adapt to the league due to a multitude of factors. That is just the way it is.

 

[Timberwolf]

I'm certainly not branding it a bad deal/signing. I'm simply suggesting we proceed with caution with signings like this.

I don't know the exact logistics of our transfer budget, but from what I've read, he'd cost £60 million, which would be our record signing, and I assume would be our most expensive signing of this window by a distance. I also do not think it's a foregone conclusion that he will be a success in the Premier League, which is the impression I get from a lot of people from reading this thread.

Once again, I'm more than happy to see him signed. I'm simply offering a different opinion.

Thing is you could say this about literally any signing that hasn't played in our league. It's a calculated risk you always have to take with foreign players. Not to mention, plenty of PL proven signings don't succeed at other clubs either: Torres, Sanchez, Bentley and hundreds of others for a multitude of reasons.

At least, unlike Ndombele, Bastoni has had success with our current manager and loved playing under him. Conte rated him so much he made him his number 1 priority in the entire transfer market.

We need to trust Conte on this one.