Callum Wilson signs for Newcastle

[Japhet]

But you still have to have an eye on your plan for the future. How are we going to bring in the big hitters if we get champs league next season when you cannot move on the intermediates that we are buying now along with those in the current squad when they do not want to move to create space for them?

It's a Catch 22 situation. We're trying to balance the squad and plug some gaps at a very difficult time with a limited budget. If we wait til we can afford to spend big it will be too late for our current crop of top quality players who will have already moved on.

 

[nailsy]

Vardy's 33 (34 in January). I'm sure Nando signed for us at 33.

It completely depends on your skill set and injury history. You can be like Owen and depend fully on your athleticism and, yes, you'll start to hugely regress around 30. Deeney seems to rely more on his physicality, which is a slower downward curve.

Not that he's PL level, but Akinfenwa is still going at 38. Defoe's about to hit 38, too. Some players can do a job for a lot longer.


I think either are the type of player we need. Just need to use them properly as Nando was wasted here under Poch, for the most part.

I can't disagree with most of that, but I think it would make more sense for us to sign the younger player.

What's the price being mentioned?

Somewhere between ten and twenty million, depending on where you look.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

It's a Catch 22 situation. We're trying to balance the squad and plug some gaps at a very difficult time with a limited budget. If we wait til we can afford to spend big it will be too late for our current crop of top quality players who will have already moved on.

Agreed but we had the same problem two years ago when Poch could not buy before we got rid of those no longer required. They stayed and we signed nobody to take us up a level. I am not saying its easy but Levy will have to find a way. The other big clubs manage it better than we do.

 

[sausage]

The other big clubs manage it better than we do.

Which ones? Most have long term deadwood kicking about.

 

[spursfan77]

Exactly. Ferguson, probably the greatest manager of all time, made some shocking signings, and generally as a rule of thumb only 50% of transfers are truly successful.

I think we have an unrealistic expectation that all of our transfers should work out. I’m guilty of it, I know that.

 

[sausage]

I think we have an unrealistic expectation that all of our transfers should work out. I’m guilty of it, I know that.

Largely caused by blinkers to other clubs, to be honest. People won't be reminded daily of the stuff we'd be talking about if this was another team's forum (Liverpool example):

- "We signed that Van Den Berg and have never played him!"
- "How is Karius still here?", "How is Grujic still here?", "How is Shaqiri still here?", "How is Origi still here?"
- "Why aren't we giving Wilson/Ojo/Woodburn a chance??
- "Why did we sign Minamino - he's done nothing!"

All vague examples that you don't really notice when all you see is a starting 11 and some results.

 

[C0YS]

You are missing the point ?

mate, no one would have called Sneijder and Lucio top tier at the time.

Sneijder was young but had flopped at Real Madrid and only really was proven at Ajax before that, and Real Madrid took a 15 million loss on him. Signing him wouldn't be too different from signing James Rodriguez (Though James has proven more at this respective point in time, though Sneijder was younger) or Isco or something. Possibly even under that, he was unproven talent who came to Real madrid off the back of a single top season but before that was being linked to, well, us and villa.

When inter signed him, he was more of a risk signing than Robben or Van Der Vaart, for what it's worth Van Der Vaart de facto replaced Sneijder after his first season. As Sneijder went to bit part to basically out of the team.

Lucio was considered more or less done at bayern, he was let go by Bayern and Van Gaal didn't fancy him. t wouldn't be too dissimilar from someone getting Vertonghen or maybe, at a stretch, Thaigo Silva.

The reason you think they were tier A signings is because of what they did at Inter, but both were actually recycling the trash of other clubs. Now Callum Wilson is not comparable, different trajectory and everything. Maybe this would be more like a Muntari, another hit signing at inter but more from a struggling club.

 

[Joshua]

mate, no one would have called Sneijder and Lucio top tier at the time.

Sneijder was young but had flopped at Real Madrid and only really was proven at Ajax before that, and Real Madrid took a 15 million loss on him. Signing him wouldn't be too different from signing James Rodriguez (Though James has proven more at this respective point in time, though Sneijder was younger) or Isco or something. Possibly even under that, he was unproven talent who came to Real madrid off the back of a single top season but before that was being linked to, well, us and villa.

When inter signed him, he was more of a risk signing than Robben or Van Der Vaart, for what it's worth Van Der Vaart de facto replaced Sneijder after his first season. As Sneijder went to bit part to basically out of the team.

Lucio was considered more or less done at bayern, he was let go by Bayern and Van Gaal didn't fancy him. t wouldn't be too dissimilar from someone getting Vertonghen or maybe, at a stretch, Thaigo Silva.

The reason you think they were tier A signings is because of what they did at Inter, but both were actually recycling the trash of other clubs. Now Callum Wilson is not comparable, different trajectory and everything. Maybe this would be more like a Muntari, another hit signing at inter but more from a struggling club.

Diego Milito as well was a 30 year old forward who had a good goalscoring record but only for middling teams. Think how massively underwhelmed we’d be by someone of his age and profile coming in. And yet he went on to be considered one of the finest forwards of his generation.

 

[C0YS]

Diego Milito as well was a 30 year old forward who had a good goalscoring record but only for middling teams. Think how massively underwhelmed we’d be by someone of his age and profile coming in. And yet he went on to be considered one of the finest forwards of his generation.

Yeh, though i would say serie A fans have always cared less about age, and I think some people underplay the fact that Pandev, Milito and Thiago Motta were all very well considered serie A players and were domestically 'big' names.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Diego Milito as well was a 30 year old forward who had a good goalscoring record but only for middling teams. Think how massively underwhelmed we’d be by someone of his age and profile coming in. And yet he went on to be considered one of the finest forwards of his generation.

All this is pretty pointless now as old strikers always tend to be better in Italy it is slower game, the defences sit back and it's more about technical ability than speed. Wilson is neither too technical or old.

Comparing the signings he made at inter 10 years ago with a fortune to the relative pennys he has here is ridiculous, it is a different ball game.

He looks to be making premiership proven signings and filling in the gaps of our squad. As someone said his tactics of signing players resemble redknapp more than anything else which imo us exactly what we need.

Pragmatic, logical signings not spectacular but plugging holes.

 

[emiley heskey]

All this is pretty pointless now as old strikers always tend to be better in Italy it is slower game, the defences sit back and it's more about technical ability than speed. Wilson is neither too technical or old.

Comparing the signings he made at inter 10 years ago with a fortune to the relative pennys he has here is ridiculous, it is a different ball game.

He looks to be making premiership proven signings and filling in the gaps of our squad. As someone said his tactics of signing players resemble redknapp more than anything else which imo us exactly what we need.

Pragmatic, logical signings not spectacular but plugging holes.

He didn't use fortune tbh ... Most of the signings came on the back of selling zlatan to barcelona for 50m ...

 

[spursfan77]

Diego Milito as well was a 30 year old forward who had a good goalscoring record but only for middling teams. Think how massively underwhelmed we’d be by someone of his age and profile coming in. And yet he went on to be considered one of the finest forwards of his generation.

We were linked with him repeatedly at the time and a lot were keen to sign him as far as I remember.

Search results for query: Milito

www.spurscommunity.co.uk

 

[Cavehillspur]

I see free agent Daniel Sturridge is looking for a return to Prem, wonder if hes one of the 5 striker options we are considering, he wouldn't be a bad option providing he could stay fit

 

[easley91]

I see free agent Daniel Sturridge is looking for a return to Prem, wonder if hes one of the 5 striker options we are considering, he wouldn't be a bad option providing he could stay fit

Stay fit and Tottenham are two things that never go together..

 

[knowlespurs]

I see free agent Daniel Sturridge is looking for a return to Prem, wonder if hes one of the 5 striker options we are considering, he wouldn't be a bad option providing he could stay fit

perfect for west ham, they love signing a once decent player who is never fit

 

[fletch82]

I see free agent Daniel Sturridge is looking for a return to Prem, wonder if hes one of the 5 striker options we are considering, he wouldn't be a bad option providing he could stay fit

Please for the love of all that is sacred just no no and no
Never repeat that again and take yourself to the naughty step for at least 2 hrs

 

[C0YS]

perfect for west ham, they love signing a once decent player who is never fit

I'm not sure he is even a decent player anymore. The very epitome of a player who still gets decent deals on the back of one good season years ago. I mean, even before that season he was decent, but since his injury problems his goal record reads 39 goals in 133 games, and most of those goals came earlier on.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I'm not sure he is even a decent player anymore. The very epitome of a player who still gets decent deals on the back of one good season years ago. I mean, even before that season he was decent, but since his injury problems his goal record reads 39 goals in 133 games, and most of those goals came earlier on.

Really hard to tell. The season before last him and Fraser were linking up brilliantly all season and he looked a top top player, then this season the whole Bmouth team have been pretty poor, no Fraser has had a big impact on their creativity.

I think on the eye test he looks like he's very much a confidence striker and who knows if he could do a job for us but as he's Prem ready and in his peak, for £10m if he can stay fit we could do a lot worse.

If we have 5 options as ITK's have alluded to then I trust Jose to make the right decision as he'll know how vital the back-up to Kane will be and someone who can play with Kane as well.

 

[dtxspurs]

Really hard to tell. The season before last him and Fraser were linking up brilliantly all season and he looked a top top player, then this season the whole Bmouth team have been pretty poor, no Fraser has had a big impact on their creativity.

I think on the eye test he looks like he's very much a confidence striker and who knows if he could do a job for us but as he's Prem ready and in his peak, for £10m if he can stay fit we could do a lot worse.

If we have 5 options as ITK's have alluded to then I trust Jose to make the right decision as he'll know how vital the back-up to Kane will be and someone who can play with Kane as well.

He was talking about Sturridge.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

He was talking about Sturridge.

OH haha fair enough, well I did a good analysis of Wilson instead. Suppose that is no bad thing as it is the CALLUM WILSON thread

The big Q here is if we do sign him will people get the number of L's in Callum correct or not? If PEH assists Wilson one time we are going to have a nightmare on here with the spellings