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Japhet

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My only problem with selling lamela, is he is the only player we have that seems to get stuck in when things are not going well. Others hide, he lifts us with his attitude and aggression. None of our other players seem to have that

Dier does, and I think he'll be a bigger influence from CB than CM. If Hojbjerg comes in that's another one, and Lo Celso has shown he's up for a scrap. I like Lamela's attitude when he's fit enough to play, but generally find him frustrating to watch as he holds the ball to long and misses a lot of creative opportunities.
 

wrd

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Not sure we'll know what a Jose player is until the end of the window to be honest.
 

wrd

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Excitement and dread in equal measures.

Yeah I feel like a hypocrite as I usually say back the manager but have to admit I agree with Levy's sentiment on Ndombele and also liked the scouts choice in Eze. We'll see.
 

Johno1470

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My only problem with selling lamela, is he is the only player we have that seems to get stuck in when things are not going well. Others hide, he lifts us with his attitude and aggression. None of our other players seem to have that

I think that’s the main reason why we’re trying to add that to our midfield and instead get some more input in goals and assists from our attackers rather than relying on an attacker who does put in the effort but very rarely contributes to more than single digit goals and assists each season.

Lamela has his use but I can’t see him being a player that Jose will be using long term. If we can get a buyer we would sell for the right price.
 

Montalbano

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Weird that the Ryan Fraser links have gone quiet, especially considering it's been reported that we'd like to utilize free transfers.

I actually think he would be a great signing for us and would fit Mourinho's counter attacking system well. He checks the boxes for a player we would want in his position — Premier League proven, rapid, strong with both feet, can play on each flank, and is an elite crosser of the ball from open play and dead balls. 26 years of age and once again, free.

Sweeping up Fraser, Wilson, and Brooks would be cheeky and would create a second unit with instant chemistry.
 

emiley heskey

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Weird that the Ryan Fraser links have gone quiet, especially considering it's been reported that we'd like to utilize free transfers.

I actually think he would be a great signing for us and would fit Mourinho's counter attacking system well. He checks the boxes for a player we would want in his position — Premier League proven, rapid, strong with both feet, can play on each flank, and is an elite crosser of the ball from open play and dead balls. 26 years of age and once again, free.

Sweeping up Fraser, Wilson, and Brooks would be cheeky and would create a second unit with instant chemistry.

Despite media links, I dont think we are going to buy any free transfer or loan transfer ... Willian, Muenier, Fraser are free and we are not going to sign them because of their wage demands .. Also i dont think we will get someone to loan ... All the report suggesting, we will buy and our range is 15-20m
 

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Weird that the Ryan Fraser links have gone quiet, especially considering it's been reported that we'd like to utilize free transfers.

I actually think he would be a great signing for us and would fit Mourinho's counter attacking system well. He checks the boxes for a player we would want in his position — Premier League proven, rapid, strong with both feet, can play on each flank, and is an elite crosser of the ball from open play and dead balls. 26 years of age and once again, free.

Sweeping up Fraser, Wilson, and Brooks would be cheeky and would create a second unit with instant chemistry.

Is he better than our other AM players? We only just signed Bergwijn for a big fee and he is yet to fully settle (and has looked very promising). Moura seems a Jose favourite. And Son, well, there probably isn't a better wide forward in the league given his goals, assists and work ethic. And Jose still needs to work out what to do with Dele, incredible goal contributions despite being out of form for the last 18 months with repetitive and disruptive hamstring injuries. I'd take Brooks over Fraser every time (assuming he is a Lamela replacement), but not sure where Fraser would fit in. He has similar stats to Moura in terms of goals, but does assist more, maybe it would be as a Moura replacement but that is not really an upgrade and JM loves Moura.
 
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kent brockman

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Is he better than our other AM players? We only just signed Bergwijn for a big fee and he is yet to fully settle. Moura seems a Jose favourite. And Son, well, there probably isn't a better wide forward in the league given his goals, assists and work ethic. And Jose still needs to work out what to do with Dele, incredible goal contributions despite being out of form for the last 18 months with repetitive and disruptive hamstring injuries. I'd take Brooks over Fraser every time (assuming he is a Lamela replacement).

Dont think Fraser is better than what we have. I guess that the rationale for picking him up on a free would be to generate funds for other positions, ie assuming that we would be able to sell Lamela for a meaningful fee. However, whereas Coco probably has admirers in Serie A, I suspect that very few of them would actually be willing to pay a fee for him (especially considering his current wages at Spurs). So I would expect Lamela to see out his contract with us.
 

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Is he better than our other AM players? We only just signed Bergwijn for a big fee and he is yet to fully settle. Moura seems a Jose favourite. And Son, well, there probably isn't a better wide forward in the league given his goals, assists and work ethic. And Jose still needs to work out what to do with Dele, incredible goal contributions despite being out of form for the last 18 months with repetitive and disruptive hamstring injuries. I'd take Brooks over Fraser every time (assuming he is a Lamela replacement).
A few journos saying Fraser wants a very high signing on fee and wages. No real benefit to fees if they want the equivalent of a transfer fee for themselves as a reward!
 

Japhet

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A few journos saying Fraser wants a very high signing on fee and wages. No real benefit to fees if they want the equivalent of a transfer fee for themselves as a reward!

I don't think he'll get either.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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To be fair to Brooks, he's had 1 bad injury that needed a second lot of surgery and lengthy rehab. That doesn't really translate into 'brittle'. It could happen to any player. It could happen to Eze. I'd be quite happy with either of them.
If you recall Winks had a similar injury and has never quite been the same.

I think some on here just want to see a track record of full recovery before risking probably in the region of £30m.
 

JonnySpurs

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I would sign fraser ahead of brooks ... Fraser is a better winger and have setpiece ability that nobody in our squad can do....

You say like they play in the same position.

Brooks may have played wide at times for Bournemouth but he's no winger.

Fraser is an out and out wing forward with pace being his main weapon.

Brooks is actually more of an AM that should be central. He can play wide but only because he's talented and versatile.

The problem with Fraser is that he wants a big signing on fee (seems to be what FA's are doing this summer with Arsenal potentially going to pay 10.5 million in signing-on fee to Willian and then 170k pw). Fraser is deluded if he thinks he's getting that.

Signing Brooks would be a brilliant move by this club and I for one very much hope it happens. Along with Wilson. We were interested in Brooks before he went to Bournemouth so it stands to reason that we would be interested again.

Equally anyone banging on about Bournemouth being relegated should recognise that their defence has always been poor and that was largely down to Eddie Howe and lacking quality in that area. Pretty sure I've read somewhere that Howe's philosophy centers around playing their style, no matter the opponent and that has it's flaws - particularly defensively. I mean they've had Steve Cook and Simon Francis as regular starters at CB for the majority of their time in the prem. Ake, whilst good, is on the small side for a CB (5ft 9) and injury prone.
 

BringBack_leGin

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You say like they play in the same position.

Brooks may have played wide at times for Bournemouth but he's no winger.

Fraser is an out and out wing forward with pace being his main weapon.

Brooks is actually more of an AM that should be central. He can play wide but only because he's talented and versatile.

The problem with Fraser is that he wants a big signing on fee (seems to be what FA's are doing this summer with Arsenal potentially going to pay 10.5 million in signing-on fee to Willian and then 170k pw). Fraser is deluded if he thinks he's getting that.

Signing Brooks would be a brilliant move by this club and I for one very much hope it happens. Along with Wilson. We were interested in Brooks before he went to Bournemouth so it stands to reason that we would be interested again.

Equally anyone banging on about Bournemouth being relegated should recognise that their defence has always been poor and that was largely down to Eddie Howe and lacking quality in that area. Pretty sure I've read somewhere that Howe's philosophy centers around playing their style, no matter the opponent and that has it's flaws - particularly defensively. I mean they've had Steve Cook and Simon Francis as regular starters at CB for the majority of their time in the prem. Ake, whilst good, is on the small side for a CB (5ft 9) and injury prone.

I don’t understand this perception that Brooks plays down the middle rather than out wide which I keep seeing. 28 of his 39 league matches for Bournemouth he’s started on the right cutting in on his left, and his main attribute has been dribbling the ball upfield and running at defenders. He played more centrally in his few starts for Sheffield but that’s a tiny sample size as he mainly cane off the bench for them. He’s not a traditional defence stretching winger but so far in his career he has been used out on the right by far more than any other part of the pitch.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I don’t understand this perception that Brooks plays down the middle rather than out wide which I keep seeing. 28 of his 39 league matches for Bournemouth he’s started on the right cutting in on his left, and his main attribute has been dribbling the ball upfield and running at defenders. He played more centrally in his few starts for Sheffield but that’s a tiny sample size as he mainly cane off the bench for them. He’s not a traditional defence stretching winger but so far in his career he has been used out on the right by far more than any other part of the pitch.
And some on here think hes similar to Eriksen or Grealish.

Completely different type of player.
 

Spurrific

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And some on here think hes similar to Eriksen or Grealish.

Completely different type of player.

Similar in their style of play doesn't mean 'play in the exact same position'. His dribbling style is similar to Grealish's, as is the way way he weighs his passes. Seeing as you're such an expert on these players, what would you say the key differences are?
 
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BringBack_leGin

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And some on here think hes similar to Eriksen or Grealish.

Completely different type of player.
Agreed. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s very good and if we could bring him in to compete with Lucas, Son and Bergwijn we’d have incredible options for the wide slots, but all these comparisons to number tens are mental.
 
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