Dele Alli at Everton

[midge]

Ali might not be all gloom and doom if we sign Bale.

Bale arrival could actually unlock Ali . Currently Ali is getting attention from opposing defenders when he gets the ball . He knows how to get into good positions. But he is getting too much attention as they now know what he is about.

With Bale in the team, running at defenders, it will open space in the opposing defence for Ali to do his thing.

What we have lacked when Dembele left was some from midfield willing to run at opposing defence. A Grealish or Bruno. With Bale we have that. It will open up defence more for our attackers

 

[peterballb]

Someone needed to be lifted. Mourinho chose Dele. I would have gone with Moura, but that's me. Regardless of which one was to be pulled, it would never have been Sissoko coming in.

For Dele, I don't know about the Eriksen theory. I'll concede that Eriksen made all of Son, Dele and Kane better, when he was playing well. Fact is, he was off the boil for over a year and a half when he was sold. Kane and Son are still scoring, so I am not willing to give Dele that excuse. For me, it is very simple. A direct Dele, who moves the ball directly and quickly out of his feet and who arrives in the box to meet crosses, is a top quality player. Flicks and tricks, Dele, Son and Moura all playing through the middle behind Kane, kills all of them. Wingers need to stay wide, get to the by-line and throw in crosses. This creates space in the middle (defenders need to go out) for Dele (near post), Kane (centre) and with the other winger heading to the far post. Moura and Son cannot help themselves from coming inside. Dele should recognize it and switch places. He is not doing that. It is a huge problem. Son and Moura need to be told, stay out wide for the most part. Cut in only when you are playing in the wing back towards the byline.

We are way too compressed in the middle. This is why we cannot break down teams who park the bus. We play right in to their game plan. Son and Moura should be running at their wing backs, causing them to persistently foul. We rarely have opposition CB's and WB's on cards. With all the speed and ability we have, it is unacceptable. A defender on a card is nowhere near as committed to the lunge in or tackle.

Moura and Son need to do their job or Fernandes, Clarke, Bergwign, Sessegnon need to be selected.

Dele needs to get back to being a North South direct player. When he does that, he is a sublime talent. Flicks and tricks are for the county fair.

 

[glacierSpurs]

There are a few players I would move on from midfield, and Dele definitely is not the first few FFS.

The media is sensing blood in all these Dele's issues and are just joining the dots to create a sensationalised news piece.

 

[deanostheyido]

He's clearly been left at the training ground so Bale has someone to make him beans on toast when he arrives.

 

[spursfan77]

Selling him now would make the least sense. If there is any player I can see building up a great rapport with Bale it’s him. Off the pitch they seem to have similar personalities. A game like golf might even be good for Dele, help him focus his mind and take his time up off of the pitch. On it, he’d suit him too.

 

[George94]

Selling him now would make the least sense. If there is any player I can see building up a great rapport with Bale it’s him. Off the pitch they seem to have similar personalities. A game like golf might even be good for Dele, help him focus his mind and take his time up off of the pitch. On it, he’d suit him too.

We've gotta at the very least give him a full season under Mourinho (and with Gareth bloody Bale) and see if he can reach the form of a few seasons ago. Easy to forget, he actually contributed to a fair amount of goals last season, despite playing 'badly'. At the very least, he's a good option to have.

 

[guy]

I'd sooner sell Moura, lamela, sissoko, gedson and or Clarke than Dele

 

[yid-down-under]

I'd sooner sell Moura, lamela, sissoko, gedson and or Clarke than Dele

totally agree. Lamela and Lucas both play in bales position and aren’t home grown so it makes more sense moving them on in particular

 

[Dzejkob]

 

[spursfan77]

We've gotta at the very least give him a full season under Mourinho (and with Gareth bloody Bale) and see if he can reach the form of a few seasons ago. Easy to forget, he actually contributed to a fair amount of goals last season, despite playing 'badly'. At the very least, he's a good option to have.

Yep. I can’t help that think a minority of fans get caught up in the media agenda against him. Sure, he can be ineffective at times but I agree he needs a full season under Mourinho. If he’s still not pulling his weight or proving his worth to a team in 12 months time we should think about possibly moving him on. The HG status counts a lot for him, because of that, if he was put on the market, every top team in the country would be in for him.

 

[Betha]

Spot on wrt Eriksen n Dele

Dele’s goals were always largely due to
- accurate long balls from the back that found his runs against defences that play a higher line
- laser guided crosses or passes from Eriksen predominantly, some from Coco Serge n Sonny and a few instances, Davies and GLC were looking for him
- us pressing high n won back possession and within 2 passes put Dele in finishing position

Many have pointed out before that he’s a 2 touch player, within 2 touches must finish or lay it off, any more time or dwelling, he is less lethal

Dele always seemed ineffective if
- opponents sit deep
- we don’t press aggressively

also, I don’t think tanguy plays the kind of balls Eriksen is so so so good at. That kind of whipped precision. Dele would benefit from an Eriksen or a KDB or a Pirlo or Ozil or TAA or Robertson.

There is also the emergence of Son in this. Allis best games, mostly, came before Son became undroppable. Although Son and Alli attack somewhat different, neither of the m are really creative players, and both are (mostly) dependant on being played good. Allis was at his best when he was allowed to lurk in the shadows of Kane, and take advantage of the gravity he created. After Son came in, Allis position had to change, and he necessarily became less effective. When Son is playing wide this is, if Son plays up front there shouldn't be as much of a problem.

Now, obviously a prime Eriksen would help here, but I still think that Son playing would take away lots of the opportunities and space Alli used to get. And perhaps a fit Lo Celso would help here, but I still think there is a very good possibility that Alli will strugle to find a position he will thrive in again. Especially with Son Around. And, if you plan on playing Bale at the RWF, then that necessitates a more creative central midfield even more.

 

[tototoner]

I'd actually like Dele to stay

 

[DJS]

I don’t think Dele suits a 4-2-3-1 if Kane is playing up top with two wide players like Lucas and Son, as they’re all quite direct and don’t have that special passing ability that Eriksen had (Kane does have excellent passing ability though).

As others have said Dele was better when we had a creative playmaker in there alongside him and Son, so if we had got someone in like Eriksen was (or if Lamela had been able to stay fit and show his ability more) I think he’d have benefitted more and quite possibly of Bergwijn played he may also benefit as Bergwijn is a more all-rounded player rather than just a specialist winger.

Bale also has a little more about him and has a more all round game than Son or Moura so maybe Dele could play with him in front of him, but looking at how teams adapt and our engine room midfielders not being the quality or Demebele and Wanyama-prime 4-3-3 may be more sensible and suit us more.

 

[SSC]

I'd sooner sell Moura, lamela, sissoko, gedson and or Clarke than Dele

Forgot Gedson was even at the club until I read this! Says it all.

 

[Yid-ol]

I'd sooner sell Moura, lamela, sissoko, gedson and or Clarke than Dele

Can we sell Gedson if he is only at us on loan?

 

[wizgell]

Can we sell Gedson if he is only at us on loan?

I'm sure Levy would if he could, after all he is worth upwards of 50mil isn't he?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Spot on wrt Eriksen n Dele

Dele’s goals were always largely due to
- accurate long balls from the back that found his runs against defences that play a higher line
- laser guided crosses or passes from Eriksen predominantly, some from Coco Serge n Sonny and a few instances, Davies and GLC were looking for him
- us pressing high n won back possession and within 2 passes put Dele in finishing position

Many have pointed out before that he’s a 2 touch player, within 2 touches must finish or lay it off, any more time or dwelling, he is less lethal

Dele always seemed ineffective if
- opponents sit deep
- we don’t press aggressively

also, I don’t think tanguy plays the kind of balls Eriksen is so so so good at. That kind of whipped precision. Dele would benefit from an Eriksen or a KDB or a Pirlo or Ozil or TAA or Robertson.

If he is willing to stay and grind and fight, there will be matches suited for him to shine.

But he must be prepared that he is no longer in the default first xi - especially if we go 4-3-3 or 3-4-3

Absolutely perfect analysis.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Can we sell Gedson if he is only at us on loan?

If there is someone who can do that it's Levy lol.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

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Yea that's not ideal, Dele really not feeling the love at the moment

He's a talented boy but we need someone who can get the ball to him, yes Lo Celso but we can't rely on his him and he's not quite in the Eriksen mould. At Chelsea when Jose won the league he had Fabregas next to Matic, thats the type of player with lazer passing who we need, otherwise we should just play Lo Celso as a n.o10 and Dele will be an impact sub.

Oh and Dele really needs to shave that 70's porn tash.

 

[kent brockman]

I love Dele, but think his role going forward will be one as a super sub from the bench when we need a goal.
He obviously wont be happy with that, and will probably want out.