Dele Alli at Everton
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SpartanSpur
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Hoping it's just Jose trying to show him some tough love and not another Pogba solution. Dele seems to be a big part of the dressing room so we don't need drama there.
Maybe a loan abroad will suit all parties though.
Maybe a loan abroad will suit all parties though.
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Not Eriksen
Wheeler Dealer
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Who is going to pay big money for him.. Most of the big PL clubs have done their business unless the top Spanish or Italian clubs are interested, but they all appear to be strapped for cash. I can't see Levy selling one of his biggest assets on the cheap.
Feel a bit sorry for Alli, in that, the same way Kane has struggled with a lack of service so has Alli.
His movement off the ball, late runs into the box etc are his strength. But the whole team has been performing poorly.
I still remember him playing CM in his early days next to Dier and being brilliant. Given that CM was/is a real problem area I'd have maybe liked to have seen him play next to either Winks/sissoko/Skipp/hojbjerg from time to time. Let him get involved in the game.
I'd be surprised if anyone would stump up the cash we would want for him at the moment, unless United do a panic buy.
His movement off the ball, late runs into the box etc are his strength. But the whole team has been performing poorly.
I still remember him playing CM in his early days next to Dier and being brilliant. Given that CM was/is a real problem area I'd have maybe liked to have seen him play next to either Winks/sissoko/Skipp/hojbjerg from time to time. Let him get involved in the game.
I'd be surprised if anyone would stump up the cash we would want for him at the moment, unless United do a panic buy.
Lingard isn't even in the frame according to dragon
blodge99
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Dele's best position has always been playing about 5 yards behind Harry...and when on song he is outstanding. A once in a generation talent. You don't do the numbers he did as a 16/17/18 year old unless your special.
However, in my opinion, the way we play as a team has changed, and Dele is quite limited in the positions he can play. Sonny/Bale/Stevie can all play anywhere across the front positions.
If someone offers us silly money (always thought Utd until they bought DVDB), I think we can better improve the squad with the cash.
However, in my opinion, the way we play as a team has changed, and Dele is quite limited in the positions he can play. Sonny/Bale/Stevie can all play anywhere across the front positions.
If someone offers us silly money (always thought Utd until they bought DVDB), I think we can better improve the squad with the cash.
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That ain't going to happen, irrespective of how bad things are with him and Mourinho..
Timberwolf
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This.
Dele can be brilliant if you effectively build the team around him and accommodate his best position. Jose did this when he first came in and Dele was scoring like mad - but the problem is you effectively end up playing 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 and not many managers like that system these days due to the lack of control and how defensively open you are. Every game was 3-2 and we never looked very comfortable during that period.
If you play Dele deeper he's actually fairly average at everything except scoring. He's not quick, has weak shot power, his technique is inconsistent and he often loses the ball and runs down blind alleys. He will always pop up with the odd moment of true genius - a through ball, an improvised pass, an absurd goal - as he does have a special spark about him, but I don't think he provides those regularly enough when playing deeper to warrant such an important spot in our team. For every special moment there are 4 or 5 games where he's the weak link in our attack and everything breaks down due to his poor decision making.
Right now we either have to drop him so that he gets a serious wake up call, starts training to his full potential and realises he can't coast in this side, or we sell him. Jose is doing the former and how he reacts to this will define whether we do the latter.
I honestly don't know what I want to happen as I do think he's hugely talented and even a sub-par Alli is good for 10+ goals a season, but at what cost to the team? I really hope he sorts it out but in 5 years I've seen very little improvement in his game: he arrived a fully formed player and has basically coasted without ever working on his weaknesses. I'll be surprised if he suddenly changes now.
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No dele in squad is either because we’re selling him or because he’s fallen out with Jose or because Jose isn’t happy with his performances and giving him a kick up the arse. But to not being in the squad 2 squads in a row make me think it has to be a falling out or we are selling him...
Dele is a tough one, if you can get him good service like erisken used to he broke records for his age in terms of goals and assists as Young English player, he’s had injuries and struggled with form and I think we don’t get him enough service but at the same time he does slow our play down as he’s more a shadow striker rather than an actual creative n.o 10 and also he does seem to like the playboy lifestyle which Jose won’t be happy with.
Never like to hear of any player fallings out if that is the case as doesn’t usually bode too well for the manager longer term but if we do sell Dele and use the money to bring in a CB, CM and ST then the balance to our squad would be pretty amazing and I think we are more suited to play 4-3-3 than 4-2-3-1 anyway as we have a lot of wingers an no real n.o 10’s.
Dele is a tough one, if you can get him good service like erisken used to he broke records for his age in terms of goals and assists as Young English player, he’s had injuries and struggled with form and I think we don’t get him enough service but at the same time he does slow our play down as he’s more a shadow striker rather than an actual creative n.o 10 and also he does seem to like the playboy lifestyle which Jose won’t be happy with.
Never like to hear of any player fallings out if that is the case as doesn’t usually bode too well for the manager longer term but if we do sell Dele and use the money to bring in a CB, CM and ST then the balance to our squad would be pretty amazing and I think we are more suited to play 4-3-3 than 4-2-3-1 anyway as we have a lot of wingers an no real n.o 10’s.
Unless there is an injury involved, not even making the bench does feel pretty ominous. Had a feeling for a while Dele maybe one of the fall guys under Mourinho. I'm sure he recognises the qualities he brings to the table but don't think Mourinho feels he can incorporate the current version of Dele into his team. Just feels his all round game is somewhat lacking.
Suppose the question is where does he play him. I don't think he has the game for a central midfield role under Mourinho. His best position is floating in and around Kane but don't see Mourinho setting up that way.
Suppose the question is where does he play him. I don't think he has the game for a central midfield role under Mourinho. His best position is floating in and around Kane but don't see Mourinho setting up that way.
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He’s given us some great moments, but he’s also been massively inconsistent for at least two years now.
If we can get a good fee and use it to strengthen weaknesses in the squad I’d be comfortable with him leaving at this point.
If we can get a good fee and use it to strengthen weaknesses in the squad I’d be comfortable with him leaving at this point.
Timberwolf
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I agree. As much as it would hurt to sell him, I think if we got an offer of around 50 million and reinvested it in, say, Ruben Dias, it would be better for the squad as a whole.
Thing is, who is going to offer that for Dele at the moment, and where would he actually go? Think it's more likely he gets temporarily frozen out and then either reintegrated into the squad over the course of the season, or we sell him in Jan/next summer. Hard to see Levy selling one of his golden boys so quickly.
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Hoping this is the wake up call that Dele needs to produce his best football again. He was at his best when he had a point to prove and was angry - we need that Dele back.
SuperSpurs69
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Class player on his day but the last couple of seasons he just hasn't hit the heights he did prior. I think a season loan somewhere could focus him again, granted the managerial changes and injuries haven't helped but he's still young enough to pick up from a few seasons ago.
OPModric
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This is what i suspected and hoped for when Mourinho arrived. To drop a player from the whole squad that clearly isn't good enough.
No coach in the world will hold Alli in such high regard as Poch did. Poch probably also had some feelings for Alli because of his background.
No coach in the world will hold Alli in such high regard as Poch did. Poch probably also had some feelings for Alli because of his background.
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It’s just wrong Sissoko is in the squad over him!
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