Diego Maradona RIP

[SlotBadger]

Gazza ribbing Shilton live on Good Morning Britain.

“I know a lot of people go on about the Hand of God - it made Peter Shilton, anyway. Shilts, it made you, that goal.”

 

[Dougal]

Gazza ribbing Shilton live on Good Morning Britain.

“I know a lot of people go on about the Hand of God - it made Peter Shilton, anyway. Shilts, it made you, that goal.”

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Shilton looks impressed...

 

[Gassin's finest]

He needs to let go of that, for his own peace.

The guy cheated, and got away with it. He was a rascal, as Bobby Robson called him. But let it go now.

I'm pretty sure the Irish have gotten over the Henry handball by now...

 

[Gassin's finest]

 

[SlotBadger]

Gazza ribbing Shilton live on Good Morning Britain.

“I know a lot of people go on about the Hand of God - it made Peter Shilton, anyway. Shilts, it made you, that goal.”

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Even funnier watching it for yourselves (40 seconds in):

 

[hellava_tough]

As some have already said on here, I don't actually know that much about Maradona from a purely footballing point of view.

Obviously he was amazingly skillful, but what was his style of play like? What formations did he play in? Who were his team mates? Did he form strike-partnerships with anyone? Who were the managers he played under?

I think the only 90 minutes I've watched of him was in WC 94 and I'm too old now to remember it.

Finally, if he had signed for Spurs after that WC, as Sheringham was talking about, how good would he have been? Off field shenanigans aside, did he still have the talent and energy to take us to a PL title?

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

As some have already said on here, I don't actually know that much about Maradona from a purely footballing point of view.

Obviously he was amazingly skillful, but what was his style of play like? What formations did he play in? Who were his team mates? Did he form strike-partnerships with anyone? Who were the managers he played under?

I think the only 90 minutes I've watched of him was in WC 94 and I'm too old now to remember it.

Finally, if he had signed for Spurs after that WC, as Sheringham was talking about, how good would he have been? Off field shenanigans aside, did he still have the talent and energy to take us to a PL title?

Are you joking??

 

[Gassin's finest]

As some have already said on here, I don't actually know that much about Maradona from a purely footballing point of view.

Obviously he was amazingly skillful, but what was his style of play like? What formations did he play in? Who were his team mates? Did he form strike-partnerships with anyone? Who were the managers he played under?

I think the only 90 minutes I've watched of him was in WC 94 and I'm too old now to remember it.

Finally, if he had signed for Spurs after that WC, as Sheringham was talking about, how good would he have been? Off field shenanigans aside, did he still have the talent and energy to take us to a PL title?

He's what people refer to when they say a classic 10. A fantastista, Bobby Robson used to call them. You basically built your team around him, and let him perform. Putting him into a forced role, in a strict formation, would be like making Van Gogh do paint by numbers.

If Ossie had got him in? Imagine a team with Klinsmann and Maradona, even at their ages. It would have ripped the premier league back then apart.

 

[Marty]

He's what people refer to when they say a classic 10. A fantastista, Bobby Robson used to call them. You basically built your team around him, and let him perform. Putting him into a forced role, in a strict formation, would be like making Van Gogh do paint by numbers.

If Ossie had got him in? Imagine a team with Klinsmann and Maradona, even at their ages. It would have ripped the premier league back then apart.

We still wouldn't have been able to defend though, so winning the title by winning all games 7-5 would've been quite something!

 

[Col_M]

Wow, that was fast. A great homage to a legend though

Think someone has misquoted him. He has PROPOSED the idea.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Watching the, literally, thousands of people paying respects to him laying in state; various flowers and petals being dropped, but so many shirts and scarves being left by really distraught fans. It's touching to see how important he was to them.

 

[Dougal]

 

[Trix]

Watching the, literally, thousands of people paying respects to him laying in state; various flowers and petals being dropped, but so many shirts and scarves being left by really distraught fans. It's touching to see how important he was to them.

It's touching but not very bright during a worldwide pandemic.

 

[Laboog]

After doing more research last night to learn more about Diego, I kept thinking, “how would people react to him today?” In his time he was a legend, looking back people see him as a legend.

But take all his issues (cheating on his spouse, drugs, lying to the public, shooting an air rifle at reporters, not claiming a son for 29 years...) would people today say “oh he’s just flawed”? Or would the reaction and feelings towards him be different?

Nobody is perfect as we all know. But I find it amazing how many people just brush off his horrible off the field like as “just flawed” or “he had a hard life growing up “ while these same people attack today’s stars for doing way less off the field.

 

[Gassin's finest]

After doing more research last night to learn more about Diego, I kept thinking, “how would people react to him today?” In his time he was a legend, looking back people see him as a legend.

But take all his issues (cheating on his spouse, drugs, lying to the public, shooting an air rifle at reporters, not claiming a son for 29 years...) would people today say “oh he’s just flawed”? Or would the reaction and feelings towards him be different?

Nobody is perfect as we all know. But I find it amazing how many people just brush off his horrible off the field like as “just flawed” or “he had a hard life growing up “ while these same people attack today’s stars for doing way less off the field.

Maradona today, is basically Messi.

But its not really comparable... not just the game, but the world is so different now.

Messi is a very good comparison, in that both Maradona and he were child prodigy's.

Whereas in the late 60s and into the 70s, Maradona played for his local teams, rose to superstardom by the time he was 18, and was at the mercy of all that fame and wealth brought to a lad who was living in poverty; Messi was spotted, taken to La Masia, and has been protected from all the demons that plagued Maradona. No mafia getting their hooks into him, no parties and cocaine, no teams spending the entire 90 minutes trying to snap his ankles in half every game. Hence he's been able to thrive as a footballer, rather than scrap every inch of the way.

Maradona was a genuine one-off.

 

[Trix]

After doing more research last night to learn more about Diego, I kept thinking, “how would people react to him today?” In his time he was a legend, looking back people see him as a legend.

But take all his issues (cheating on his spouse, drugs, lying to the public, shooting an air rifle at reporters, not claiming a son for 29 years...) would people today say “oh he’s just flawed”? Or would the reaction and feelings towards him be different?

Nobody is perfect as we all know. But I find it amazing how many people just brush off his horrible off the field like as “just flawed” or “he had a hard life growing up “ while these same people attack today’s stars for doing way less off the field.

He wouldn't behave like that today. He'd be kept away from most of what caused the issues. Just look at how Gazza is still loved and he was 10+ years after Diego. The game has changed quite dramatically over the last 30 years, as has the world.

 

[hellava_tough]

Maradona today, is basically Messi.

But its not really comparable... not just the game, but the world is so different now.

Messi is a very good comparison, in that both Maradona and he were child prodigy's.

Whereas in the late 60s and into the 70s, Maradona played for his local teams, rose to superstardom by the time he was 18, and was at the mercy of all that fame and wealth brought to a lad who was living in poverty; Messi was spotted, taken to La Masia, and has been protected from all the demons that plagued Maradona. No mafia getting their hooks into him, no parties and cocaine, no teams spending the entire 90 minutes trying to snap his ankles in half every game. Hence he's been able to thrive as a footballer, rather than scrap every inch of the way.

Maradona was a genuine one-off.

Added to that the troubled political history of 70s and 80s Argentina, as well as the Falklands War further contributed to the 'media narrative'.

Seems like a lot of things came together to create the legend of Maradona.

 

[hughy]

I'm wouldn't exactly say I'm happy that he passed away, but it has given me an excuse to watch clips of him all morning which I wouldn't have had the pleasure of doing without him passing. Good work, Diego.

 

[Col_M]

As some have already said on here, I don't actually know that much about Maradona from a purely footballing point of view.

Obviously he was amazingly skillful, but what was his style of play like? What formations did he play in? Who were his team mates? Did he form strike-partnerships with anyone? Who were the managers he played under?

I think the only 90 minutes I've watched of him was in WC 94 and I'm too old now to remember it.

Finally, if he had signed for Spurs after that WC, as Sheringham was talking about, how good would he have been? Off field shenanigans aside, did he still have the talent and energy to take us to a PL title?

Great question.

The 86 Napoli side was exclusively made up of Italian players. He was the only foreigner. The only names I recognise from the squad is Andrea Carnavale (an international for the national side), Di Napoli who became a full international and Ferrara (defender who went on to play and manage Juventus).
Carnavale scored 8 goals that season, top scorer was Maradona on 10. You have to remember this is Italian football where a 1-0 was considered a goal fest at the time,

To say that team was made up of journeymen would be unfair. But as @Gassin's finest has said, this team was built to facilitate the number 10. Defend, win the ball, give the ball to Diego. Repeat Repeat Repeat.

The coach was Bianchi. No real superstar, went on to manage Roma, Inter but never really achieve much.

 

[Col_M]

this photo is a classic